Group Title: Historic St. Augustine: Redoubt
Title: [Memo to Commission Members re: City Commission meeting - November 8th, 4:00 p.m.; and our November meeting (Nov. 17, 3:30 p.m.)]
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Title: Memo to Commission Members re: City Commission meeting - November 8th, 4:00 p.m.; and our November meeting (Nov. 17, 3:30 p.m.)
Series Title: Historic St. Augustine: Redoubt
Physical Description: Correspondence
Language: English
Creator: Hoefer, Carl
Publication Date: 1999
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Box: 8
Divider: Redoubt
Folder: Redoubt
Subject: Saint Augustine (Fla.)
Redoubt (Saint Augustine, Fla.)
Spatial Coverage: North America -- United States of America -- Florida -- Saint Johns -- Saint Augustine
Coordinates: 29.897826 x -81.314976
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Volume ID: VID00018
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NOV 3 1999

Memo to: Commission Members

From: Carl Hoefer, Chair -

Date: November 17, 1999

Subj.: City Commission meeting November 8h, 4:00 p.m.; and our
November meeting (Nov. 17, 3:30 p.m.)

Enclosed are the minutes of the October meeting.

As those of you who attended know, we responded to Carl Halbirt's draft academic paper
and recommendation that "The only place for the redoubt, if we are to comply with the Dept. Of
the Interior's guidelines on reconstruction, is west of Cordova." We voted to modify our position
and accept that location as our recommendation.

In an effort to act quickly, Bill Adams has reserved us a spot on the City Commission
agenda for Nov. 8', as were a day late for the second October meeting when we adjourned. My
attached memo to the City is the written request. I hope as many of you as possible will attend
this meeting. As my memo indicates, my ability to speak for us relies on not being tied up in jury
duty for which I've been called on the 8" at 9:00 a.m.

If the Commissioners accept this recommendation, we shall probably have some
organizing to do at our November meeting, so please mark that on your calendar also.

At our meeting on the 17t we will have Mark Knight, Dir. Of Planning & Building for the
City, brief us on his three projects: Signs, Entrance Corridors, and Transit-Greenways.

Remember: Nov. 8 and Nov. 17.

Tel./Fax 904-794-2356, Email

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$Lt Autusttine, T3 32086

Mayor, Commissioners, City Staff
City of St. Augustine
P.O. Box 210
St. Augustine, FL 32085


At the last (October) meeting of the Presidio Commission, Carl Halbirt presented a
synopsis of a draft academic paper on the Archaeology of the Santo Domingo Redoubt which he
handed out to the Commissioners. The only information new to the members was an 1835
redoubt and line just to the North of the 1808 site that we have been discussing. Mr. Halbirt's
opinion, and subsequent recommendation, was that the only suitable site for the redoubt is to the
west of Cordova, the location already approved (see the Presidio Commission's written report),
that would comply with the Department of Interior Guidelines on reconstruction and renovation
of historic "buildings". A copy of the tentative minutes of the October meeting will be published

This, being reconfirmed by voice vote, should open the door to whatever contractual
amendments are needed between the City and the St. Johns County School Board; to relevant
archaeological testing of the proposed School Board site; and to the initiation of the early phases
of the construction project. In short, it's time to get on with it!

If the City Commission concurs, it would seem a good time to start physical changes along
Orange Street which will be obvious (and interesting) to the public, and to glean publicity and
perhaps further financial support for the project. Accordingly, it seems an appropriate moment
for us to make a brief presentation to the City Commissioners at your next meeting, for which we
hereby request the opportunity. With press coverage, a positive spin can be put on this project.

I have been called to Jury Duty on November 8h, so it may not be me. If not, our
Secretary, Robert Hall will do the honors.


H. Carl Hoefer, Jr., Chair

Oct.30, 1999 Tel./Fax 904-794-2356, Email

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October 20, 1999

Present were: Carl Hoefer, Chairman,Robert Hall,secretary, Janis Williams, Bill
Adams,Carl Halbirt, Teresa Milam, Paul Fagundo, Betty Riggan, Les Thomas and
Charles Tingley who only could come by to drop off copies of the Greenway study.

The meeting began at 3:45. Mr Halbirt distributed a report to us on the Santo
Domingo redoubt. The digs began in 1994. The paper concludes with a recommenda-
tion for the west location. This would best protect the remaining archeology. An ex-
tensive discussion followed regarding the committee accepting the west location. The
remaining concerns revolved around interpreting the moat. The west location leaves
three roads between the redoubt and the reconstructed line on fort grounds. With
recommendations that at least the Orange St. cut off be removed the group agreed
that the archeology needed to be protected. Mr. Fagundo's motion to accept the west
location was confirmed. It would avoid construction on the 1808 redoubt and its two
other incarnations in 1740 and 1840.

Mr. Adams was welcomed to the group. He brought to our attention the collection of
the East Florida Papers at Government House.

Further discussion again suggesting that the City could begin any time and that Mr
Cubbage would be the site supervisor and it was hoped Mr. THomas could be respon-
sible for the final plans. An updated land survey is needed and copies of the 1964
construction blueprints in the Castillo's file.

We now need to present to the City our agreement on the final location and design.

The next meeting will be held at 3:30 on November 17

Meeting adjourned at 4:45

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