Front Cover
 Table of Contents
 Arbitration is best way to settle...
 P/R committee maps state level...
 The 1961 office practice semin...
 Anthony Libero Pullara, AIA...
 A building designed for growth
 Polk county architects hold centennial...
 News and notes
 Advertisers' index
 Back Cover

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Table of Contents
    Front Cover
        Front Cover 1
        Front Cover 2
        Page 1
    Table of Contents
        Page 2
        Page 3
    Arbitration is best way to settle differences
        Page 4
        Page 5
    P/R committee maps state level program
        Page 6
        Page 7
        Page 8
    The 1961 office practice seminar
        Page 9
        Page 10
        Page 11
        Page 12
        Page 13
        Page 14
        Page 15
        Page 16
    Anthony Libero Pullara, AIA - 1917-1961
        Page 17
    A building designed for growth
        Page 18
        Page 19
    Polk county architects hold centennial house competition
        Page 20
        Page 21
    News and notes
        Page 22
        Page 23
        Page 24
        Page 25
        Page 26
    Advertisers' index
        Page 27
        Page 28
    Back Cover
        Page 29
        Page 30
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By Roland W. Sellew, AIA

PHA Deputy to Talk at Sarasota . .

P/R Committee Maps State Level Program .

The 1961 Office Practice Seminar . .
Part II Architect Engineer Coordination

Anthony Libero Pullara, AIA 1917-1961 .
A Memorial by Robert H. Levison, AIA

A Building Designed for Growth . .
Caladesi National Bank, William Rupp, AIA, A









Polk County Architects Hold Centennial House Competition

News and Notes .

Advertisers' Index .

Robert H. Levison, President, 425 S. Garden Ave., Clearwater
Arthur Lee Campbell, First Vice-President, Rm. 208, Security Bldg., Gainesville
Robert B. Murphy, Second Vice-President, 1210 Edgewater Drive, Orlando
William F. Bigoney, Jr., Third V-President, 2520 E. Las Olas Blvd., Ft. Laud.
Verner Johnson, Secretary, 250 N. E. 18th Street, Miami
Roy M. Pooley, Jr., Treasurer, Suite 209, 233 E. Bay Street, Jacksonville

Immediate Past President: John Stetson; BROWARD COUNTY: Jack W.
Zimmer, Charles F. McAlpine, Jr.; DAYTONA BEACH: Francis R. Walton;
FLORIDA CENTRAL: Robert C. Wielage, Eugene H. Beach, Anthony L.
Pullara; FLORIDA NORTH: Turpin C. Bannister, FAIA, McMillan H. Johnson;
WEST: W. Stewart Morrison; FLORIDA SOUTH: James L. Deen, H. Samuel
Kruse, C. Robert Abele; JACKSONVILLE: A. Robert Broadfoot, Jr., John R.
Graveley, Frederick W. Bucky, Jr.; MID-FLORIDA: Charle L. Hendrick, John
P. DeLoe; PALM BEACH: Jefferson N. Powell, Frederick W. Kessler.

Verna M. Sherman, Administrative Secretary, 414 Dupont Plaza Center, Miami

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NUMBER 8 I 1 1


Harrelson Hall, N. C. State College, Raleigh.

A Circular Solution

Architects for this general classroom at N. C. State faced a
complex problem in design.
The building needed to incorporate large lecture rooms with
smaller classrooms and offices all arranged for close student-
faculty contact. Another consideration was the disadvantage of
flat floors in large group instruction, and the problem of cor-
ridors and excess floor space presented by sloping floors.
For the engineer, there was the problem presented by the
use of both variable strength and variable weight concrete,
affecting the moment distribution factors in the pre-cast and
poured-in-place composite, continuous pre-stressed structural
system. Weak soil conditions demanded that a balanced dead
load design be checked on continuous circular and spread foot-
ings, to minimize the effect of any differential settlement.
The solution to these problems is imaginative and effective.
Harrelson Hall is designed as a series of stacked "soup plate"
forms. Flat outer rims accommodate offices and service cor-
ridors, slope center-ward to contain the lecture areas.
Solite lightweight structural concrete was used for the build-
ing's frame and for the walls of the center core, which serves
as a structural column. Solite lightweight masonry units were
used inside the circular partitions.
Beams and columns were kept as slender as possible by using
high strength Solite lightweight structural concrete to carry the
design loads within the allowable stresses. The reduction in
dead load which it affected avoided the use of piles and resulted
in substantial savings.
Thus, a combination of imaginative design and versatile
materials produced an effective "circular solution" at N. C. State.

A typical floor plan. The present
building accomodates offices and lecture
rooms. An adjacent structure to house
smaller classrooms will be built later.

Holloway-Reeves and E. W. Waugh
Ezra Meir & Associates
T. A. Loving & Company

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units produced by Solite Corporation.
Offices in Richmond, Va.; Charlotte,
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Arbitration Is Best Way

To Settle Differences


During the past several years I have
had the privilege of being called upon
to arbitrate disputes arising from con-
tracts between owners and contractors,
owners and architects and even be-
tween architects and their consulting
engineers. In virtually every contract
agreement between the parties in dis-
agreement there was some form of
arbitration clause. In some instances
no such clause was included, but the
disputants elected to have their differ-
ences submitted to arbitration. The
absence of such clause, and unwilling-
ness of one of the parties to use arbi-
tration results, of course, in a lawsuit.
Let me say here that such a clause,
properly worded, should appear in
every contract.
As I have served in an increasing
number of arbitration proceedings and
also as a witness in court cases, I have
become more and more impressed
with the fact that far too few disagree-
ments are arbitrated and, conversely,
too many have ended up in courts of
law. For any professional practioner a
law suit is, or should be, anathema.
The inevitable publicity attendant
upon a court case is frequently more
damaging than the outcome of the
suit is worth-even with a 100 percent
win. On the other hand, submission
of a dispute to arbitration results in
no publicity and hence is subject to
no misinterpretation by readers of
news or other articles since nothing
is published or released except to the
parties involved.
The standard contract forms pub-
lished by the American Institute of
Architects all refer to the arbitration
rules of the American Arbitration As-
sociation. These references are usually
-they should always be-reflected in
every contract emanating from an
architect's office. But how many arch-
itects have very much knowledge of
the application of the arbitration
clause, or know much about arbitra-
tion procedures? I hasten to add that,
until recently, I was one of those who

used the clause in every contract, par-
rot-fashion, with no real knowledge
of its value.
Let us look at the other recourse
besides arbitration in a dispute which
the parties cannot, or will not, resolve
between themselves. Obviously, it is
a law suit. A law suit, if the outcome
is to be satisfactory to either one of
the disputants, let alone both of them,
pre-supposes that a judge and a jury
are expertly versed in the technical
details usually involved in any dispute
concerning the building industry. The
result of such suit may very well be a
perfectly legal decision, but not neces-
sarily a technically equitable one.
Many of our profession have served
as expert witnesses in court cases and
have seen decisions handed down
that, while legally competent, are not
equitably sufficient. It is too easy to
end up with a compromise decision
which bears little resemblance to facts.
Some months ago, I was invited to
submit my qualifications for member-
ship on the National Panel of Arbitra-
tors of the American Arbitration Asso-
ciation and, as a result, was subse-
quently appointed thereto. Members
of the Panel, when assigned to an
arbitration proceeding by the Asso-
ciation, serve without compensation
other than reimbursement of their
out-of-pocket expenses for travel and
the like. The members of the Panel
have widely varying backgrounds of
experience and come from many walks
of life. But, to quote from a publica-
tion of the Association, "all have this
in common; they are recognized in
their own communities and are re-
spected for their judgement, their
moral authority and their generosity
in placing their talents at the service
of others without thought of personal
gain." An arbitrator must endeavor
to live up to that description.
To quote again from an Association
pamphlet, HARLAN F. STONE of the
United States Supreme Court said:
"The very refinements and complex-

ities of our Court machinery often
make it cumbersome and dilatory
when applied to controversies involv-
ing simple issues of fact or law. This
is especially the case when the issue
of fact turns upon expert knowledge
as to the nature or quality of merch-
andise or the damage' consequent
upon the failure to perform a con-
tract - which can be better de-
termined by a layman having training
and experience in a particular trade
or business than by a judge and jury
who have not had that training or
I should like to urge that all mem-
bers of our profession acquaint them-
selves with the full meaning and pur-
port of the "arbitration clause" and
its application in cases of disagree-
ment that seem headed for a law
court. Those who do take the time
and effort to do this will find it in-
teresting, stimulating and greatly
worth while.

PHA Deputy To Talk
at Sarasota Meeting
missioner of the Public Housing Ad-
ministration, Washington, is flying
from the Capitol to Sarasota as guest
speaker at the Florida Central Chap-
ter meeting banquet this month. The
banquet will be held at the Land-
mark Hotel at Sarasota's Lido Beach
on the evening of August 12, follow-
ing meetings of the Chapter and
Auxiliary executive committees and
Though the exact subject of Mr.
Servaites' talk has not been released,
a spokesman for the Chapter said he
would deal with the need for and
status of public housing activities in
Florida and would clarify the pro-
cedures necessary for both the eco-
nomic and architectural develop-
ments of public housing projects
here. What meager reports have been
issued on this general subject thus
far indicate that substantial programs
are now being planned for areas on
the west coast, and in both the Jack-
sonville and Greater Miami areas.
Officers and committeemen of the
Florida Central Chapter believe
that the Chapter program has much
of interest to offer architects from
other chapters who are, or may be,
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Deputy to Talk...
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interested in public housing projects.
These are welcome to attend the
Florida Central meeting. However
reservations are necessary. They may
be obtained by application to JACK
WEST, 536 South Pineapple Street,
Sarasota, Florida. Cocktails, at the
poolside of the Landmark Hotel,
start at 5:30. The Chapter Banquet
is scheduled for 7:00.

P/R Committee Maps
State Level Program
Twenty-two people, including
chapter P/R chairmen and FAA offi-
cers, met July 15 at the Sun and
Sand Hotel Court, Daytona Beach,
in a day-long meeting called to dis-
cuss current programs and future
plans for the FAA's public relations
activity. Chairman of the meeting
was EDWARD G. GRAFTON, member
of Institute's P/R Committee from
the Florida Region. Eight of Flor-
ida's ten chapters were represented;
and arrangements for the conference

were made by FRANCIS R. WALTON
and DAVID A. LEETE of the Daytona
Beach Chapter.
The morning session was devoted
to a general discussion relative to
P/R activities in various chapter
areas following the showing of a 15-
minute color and sound film. The
film was made by Rainbow Pictures
of Miami for the Dade County Mu-
seum of Science and Industry for
which Pancoast, Ferendino, Skeels
and Burnham were architects. It was
shown as an example of the type of
presentation that can be used as a
P/R tool by an architectural firm.
The afternoon session included a
discussion of P/R problems and pro-
grams at national and state levels.
This was followed by a review of the
new AIA color and sound film, "De-
signing a Better Tomorrow", that in-
cluded comments regarding the film
and its possible use as a means for
public education by practicing archi-
tects themselves as well as chapters.
Out of the two sessions came some
conclusions and recommendations
relative to current activities and pos-
sibilities for future P/R programs.
Most important single conclusion
was that the highest possible excel-

lence in architectural design and pro-
fessional service constituted the most
effective single P/R tool available
to any individual or firm. Brought to
the chapter level, this involved re-
sponsibility to identify architectural
practice and the professionals in-
volved in it with the best interests of
both community and public.
Means for achieving this objective,
it was revealed, varied widely among
chapters-first because of the wide
variance in P/R budgets, and again
because of differences in community
areas with which the chapters are
concerned. Most important elements
in any chapter P/R program were
listed as:
1 Public service in such fields
as community government, urban
design and public welfare on the part
of both chapter groups and indi-
2 Group programs involving
recognition of, and awards for, excel-
lence in various types of craftsman-
3 Participation by individuals
in programs involving public interests
that are reported in the press and by
radio and television.
(Continued on Page 25)




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The 1961 Office Practice Seminar...

Part II Architect-Engineer Coordination
The second of the four seminar AIA, of Tallahassee; and the three
sessions of the 1961 FAA Office Prac- speakers in order of presentation, were
twice Seminar started at 11:15 AM, NEWTON EBAUGH, PE, of Gainesville,
June 10, 1961. The subject was WILLIAM E. BISHOP, PE, of Talla-
"Architect Engineer Coordination." hassee, and CHARLES M. SPOONER,
Chairman was ROBERT H. MAYBIN, JR., PE, of Coral Cables.

Mr. Maybin The first speaker of
this session which will explore ways
and means for improving Architect-
Engineer Coordination is an en-
gineer from Gainesville who has had
long experience in working with archi-
tects. Formerly a teacher in the En-
gineering College of the University
of Florida, he is a principal in the
consulting engineering firm of Ebaugh
and Geothe of Gainesville MR.

Mr. Ebaugh As many of you
know, I have a background of service
on the faculties of Georgia Tech and
the University of Florida. Also, I
have been privileged to work with
architects for more than thirty years.
Due to the former experience, I wel-
come the opportunity to participate
with you in any educational effort,
such as this seminar, which is de-
signed to assist the architect in ren-
dering better service to his client.
Due to the latter experience, I can
assure you that there is an increasing
need for better coordination of the
engineering portions of your work.
Since my major experience relates
to the mechanical and electrical sys-
tems, I shall leave soil mechanics,
foundations, structural systems, etc.
to others who follow me on this panel
and who are better qualified to dis-
cuss them.
A little reflection makes us realize
that practically all phases of building
design and construction continue to
become more complicated as time
goes along. More and more team-
work will be demanded of us if we
are to give our clients the best pos-
sible service. We need better edu-

cated architects and engineers, bet-
ter planned training programs of
work for the young graduate who
aspires to professional status, and a
greater realization on the part of
those who have become licensed that
a professional man is a student
throughout his active career and
that, at best, he can only learn a
small part of the sum total of knowl-
edge required by important buildings

The Architect's Duties-Most of
you will use the Standard Form of
Agreement Between Owner and Arch-
itect, A.I.A. Document No. B-121, as
the basis of your contract with the
client. Section C-I of this form out-
lines what you are promising to do
for the client. Among other things,
you are promising to render profes-
sional services with respect to the en-
gineering phases of a project. It
should be evident that you cannot
render professional services by con-
sulting electricians, plumbers, sheet
metal contractors, and salesmen rel-
ative to the professional designs re-
quired today. Yet we see this going
on in the profession to the detriment
of those architects who are trying to
enhance the professional status of the
practice of architecture in the eyes
of the general public.

The Engineer's Duties-Fortunatoe
ly, the better architectural firms em-
ploy professional engineers to work
with them in doing the engineering
portions of their work. The larger
firms have registered professional en-
gineers as employees or as principals
of the firm. However, it is not un-

usual for the very large firms to em-
ploy outside engineering consultants
for important projects.
The smaller architectural firms with
less than about thirty employees gen-
erally find it more economical to em-
ploy engineering consultants to work
with them on the mechanical and
electrical phases of their projects. Be-
sides, an independent firm of con-
sulting engineers can bring to the
project a number of experienced pro-
fessionals who are specialists in air
conditioning, illumination, water sup-
ply, sewage disposal, etc., and thereby
help the architect to render the very
best service to his client. One or two
engineers employed in an architec-
tural firm can't be expected to render
this quality of service.
The A.I.A. Document No. B-121
provides for preliminary conferences
and studies, working drawings and
specifications, and general supervis-
ion. The engineer should expect to
assist the architect in all of these
stages of a project. He should sit in
preliminary conferences when request-
ed. He should coordinate the me-
chanical and electrical parts of his
work with the requirements of the
structural system to eliminate inter-
He should advise the architect of
space needs for equipment, piping,
ducts, etc., and make a real effort
to keep these space needs to a mini-
mum compatible with future servic-
ing requirements. He should advise
the architect of the several ways of
designing the work and point out the
advantages of the recommended sys-
tems from the standpoints of first
cost and operating costs. He should
work with the architect to preserve
the finish and decor which he has
Finally, the engineer should be em-
ployed to render general supervision
for his portions of the work to see to
it that the owner gets what has been
Areas of Better Coordination -
The two areas of our work which
offer the greatest opportunity for
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AUGUST, 1961

Office Practice Seminar...
(Continued from Page 9)

improvement are the first and last
mentioned above. We need to do
more coordinating in the preliminary
phase and in the supervision phase.
Frequently, floor to ceiling heights,
equipment spaces, the size of pipe
and duct spaces and the structural
system are pretty well set before we
are called in to discuss the mechani-
cal and electrical work. Then, all too
often, we need more space and this
cuts down on the usuable floor space
and the space planning which the
architect is trying to achieve. Earlier
preliminary conferences will result in
better planning.
Probably the weakest part of our
engineering work today lies in insuf-
ficient supervision. Many architects
do not realize the necessity of peri-
odic checks by the designer of the
mechanical systems as they are being
installed. The final inspection is fine,
but a lot of poor work can be covered
up before this is required.
My criticisms and suggestions are
meant to be constructive. I firmly
believe that most architects and en-
gineers really want to render the very
best service for the client and also
want to enhance the professional
status of our professions in the eyes
of the general public. The best way
to enhance our professions is to render
better service to our clients.

Mr. Maybin Thank you. The
next speaker is an engineer who
works very closely with architects
who are also members of his pro-
fessional organization. So he should
be especially able to tell us the im-
portant points about architect-engi-
neer coordination. He is a member
of the Tallahassee firm of Barrett,
Daffin and Bishop, architects and
engineers. MR. WILLIAM E. BISHOP.
Mr. Bishop The objective of the
engineer is to produce, rapidly and
efficiently, a complete set of plans
from which the contractor can build
with a minimum of questions and
problems. This too, I believe, is the
objective of the architect. To accom-
plish this common objective requires
a great deal of close cooperation be-
tween both building professionals.
I realize that not all architects work
in the same way, particularly in the
preliminary stages of a project. So you

can't lay down a set of rules and ex-
pect every one to follow them pre-
cisely. In my office we have four regis-
tered architects. This is the way we
lay out work in our office; and it
works pretty well.
A preliminary conference between
architect and engineer should always
be held. Here they can discuss various
structural systems but, probably,
at this time mechanical and electrical
engineers are not necessarily involved.
At this time any special or unusual
conditions of the project should be
brought up such as the desirability
of unusually long clear spans involv-
ing commission of some columns; and
any other point that might affect the
structure of the building. Building
materials especially those for ex-
terior walls should also be dis-

cussed and the overall thinking of the
architect transmitted to the engineer
so the engineer may have some defin-
ite idea of required dead loads on vari-
ous structural members.
From this type of discussion the
engineer can investigate various struc-
tural systems and can dome up with
some that will meet the design re-
quirements of the building and the
physical requirements of the building
itself. Later at a second conference -
but still during the preliminary plan-
ning stage the architect and en-
gineer should again compare notes
and finally decide on the particular
structural system to be used. The
need for this seems clear. In the past
the choice was confined to reinforced
concrete, steel or wood. But today the
range of structural materials is expand-

The four-session, all-day Office Practice Seminar, held
June 10, 1961, at the Hillsboro Hotel in Tampa, was the
third such gathering to be sponsored by the FAA's Office
Practice Committee. Seminar Chairman Earl M. Starnes,
working with FAA President Robert H. Levison, organized
the meeting into four sessions as follows:
Chairman....J. Vance Duncan, AIA
Speakers.....T. Trip Russell, AIA
Ronnie Ginn
Dale Freelove
Walter Raymond, AIA
Chairman....Robert H. Maybin, AIA
Speakers..... Newton Ebaugh, PE
W. E. Bishop, PE
C. M. Spooner, Jr., PE
Chairman....Hilliard T. Smith, Jr., AIA
Speakers.....Bernard B. Rothschild, AIA
Chairman....Earl M. Starnes, AIA
Speakers.....Victor A. Schinnerer,
Insurance Counselor
William E. Sherman
This year, for the first time, proceedings of the seminar
were tape-recorded. A resolution was adopted by the FAA
Board of Directors at its June 9th meeting that "the per-
tinent portions" of these proceedings be published.
The first session of the Seminar was reported in July.
Material on others will follow....Most of the talks were
delivered on an extemporaneous basis, thus a substantial
re-writing from the transcript of the recording has been
necessary to avoid the repetitions and fragmented sen-
tences that invariably occur in the recording of such
deliveries. However, all tape-transcripts have been edited
with the care necessary to assure inclusion of all "the
pertinent portions" of each session.


ing or it might also be said that
the use of these materials is changing.
At this conference it will help the
engineer if wall sections, interior par-
titions, etc., can be decided upon.
This will enable the engineer to finish
his preliminary planning and give the
architect information on beam sizes,
etc. At this second conference also
the mechanical engineer should be
present to discuss requirements for
duct spaces, suspension ceiling sys-
tems, etc., in order that floor-to-floor-
heights may be set.
Both of these conferences should
be held in the early stages of the
preliminary planning. As soon as pos-
sible after the engineer has this re-
quired information he should furnish
the owner, through the architect, his
requirements for soil investigation.
Normally it's advisable that the soil
testing organization have some pre-
liminary information on foundation
members not necessarily final in-
formation, but some indication of
where foundations will be and tenta-
tive data on loadings of footings and
foundation walls and at least prelim-
inary elevations of footings and foun-
dations. This will enable a more valid
interpretation of soil investigation.
During the entire period of the
building's design the architect should
keep to a minimum changes from the
structural conditions that have been
decided upon. If any change is made,
it should be brought to the engineer's
attention immediately and prefer-
ably it should be made in conjunction
with the engineer. At the end of the
preliminary planning stage the struc-
tural system should be entirely set.
Data on the character and sizes of
beams, columns, decks, joists, etc.,
should be furnished the architect by
the engineer.
Itthese preliminaries have been
adequately handled and if preliminary
decisions relative to structure remain
substantially unchanged, the need for
architect-engineer coordination during
the working drawing stage of the proj-
ect is practically nil. During this stage
the structural engineer is primarily
concerned with the various types of
structural details that do not affect
the design of the building so far as
the architect is concerned. So, with
proper coordination during the pre-
liminary stages of the design, confer-
ences during the working drawing
stage are hardly necessary. They
should be few if any.
This, of course, is the ideal situa-
AUGUST, 1961

tion. Unfortunately, it almost never
works out this way in practice.

Mr. Maybin Thank you Mr.
Bishop. The next speaker is also a
structural engineer. He is not directly
associated with architects, though he
works with them on a consulting
basis. He is a graduate of the Engi-
neering School of the University of
Florida and for the past three years
has been a partner in the consulting
firm of Driver and Spooner of Coral

Mr. Spooner- To draw or design
a building that is beautiful is some-
what of an achievement. But to draw
or design a building that is not only
beautiful but that also is safe, useful,
economical and practical is truly a
great achievement. And the produc-
tion of such a building requires an
Engineering is necessary for three
main reasons. First, safety of the pub-
lic must be assured; second, the own-
er's investment must be protected;
and, third, the engineer must protect
the architect by means of a sound,
economical, practical structural design
that will maintain the desired esthetic
properties of the building to the great-
est possible extent. The engineer
should be willing to try new ideas,
new materials, new design methods.
But he should also be willing and
ready to act as a damper if required to
meet his responsibility of protecting
the public, the owner and the archi-
How are we to achieve a building
that is beautiful, safe, economical and
practical? The answer is teamwork-
coordination between architect and
engineer from the very beginning of
the project to its bitter end. This is
something we all like to talk about.
But in the rush to complete a job,
most of us forget about coordination.
We, as engineers, are often hurried
to design a project without sufficient
preliminary information simply to
give us an early start on changes that
must be made later because of the lack
of coordination!
The architect is always pointing out
to the engineer that he, the architect,
is the prime contractor on the project.
It is he who is responsible for pre-
liminaries and plans and for coordina-
tion with all parties concerned. In
view of this, I say it is up to him to
improve the coordination between the

architect and engineer and engi-
neers should respond with coopera-
Some examples may help to explain
what I mean. We work with several
architectural firms. There are those
who hurriedly make a rough sketch
then leave it to a draftsman to work
out details, develop coordination as
required and complete the job. But
after it's done, the architect decides
the design has strayed from what he
had in mind. So the changes begin-
not just architectural changes, but
changes that involve the architect, the
engineers and everybody concerned.
There are other architects who think
their preliminaries are so good the
owner won't disagree with them so
they don't obtain the owner's approv-
al. We start on the working drawings.
And when the owner finally asks
"Where are the preliminaries?," it's
too late. People are different. Because
the architect likes it, doesn't neces-
sarily mean the owner will.
Still others develop preliminaries
without consulting the engineer at all
-often because they fear the engineer
might impose some limits on the de-
sign itself. They get the preliminaries
approved then come to the engi-
neer and insist that he make the de-
sign work structurally, even though
it may not be practical. This is a dif-
ficult, and often an impossible, thing
to do.
The question is: What can you, as
architects, and we, as engineers, each
do about improving this matter of
coordination? First of all, if the job
requires an engineer, select one and
consult with him during the prelim-
inary design stage. This will save
everybody concerned both headaches
and money. Above all, get the own-
er's approval of the preliminaries be-
fore starting working drawings. And
when these begin, set up a conference
to include everybody who will be con-
cerned with this particular job so that
each can receive all the pertinent in-
formation available.
As working drawings proceed and
you have a question, call the engineer;
and the engineer should similarly call
the architect when a question occurs
to him. As drawings are finished make
sure the engineer has copies of the
architect's prints and the architect
has copies of the engineer's prints.
Lots of errors can be caught during
these early stages.
When a question arises, give the
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Office Practice Seminar...
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engineer an answer. Don't tell him
to "work around the problem," for if
you do, soon there'll be nothing but
problems and the whole job will stop.
And don't rely on draftsmen to do the
architect's work, nor expect them to
accept the architect's responsibility.
The architect himself must be present
as coordinating conferences are held.
Otherwise he won't know what's go-
ing on, won't know what decisions
have been made, and therefore won't
be able to give the proper answer to
the engineer's questions. Last, but
not least: Don't attempt to issue bid
documents until all the engineer's
drawings and all the architect's draw-
ings have been thoroughly checked
individually and against one another
to make sure they coincide in all de-
tails. Otherwise we'll both have many
difficulties in the field.
Now, of course, these suggestions
don't cover every possible situation.
But they can serve as a useful guide
to procedure. Generally speaking, any
problem can be solved if we work as
a team and not as individuals. But
any good team needs a captain who
can plan, guide and direct the work
of others. This must be the architect.
If we can work this way as a team,
we can give the client- a professional
job irt an economical and efficient
manner. And who knows-everybody
may show a profit, even the engineer!
So remember: This problem is not
like the weather that everybody talks
about but can't do anything about.
This is a problem that everybody can
talk about-and everybody can, and
should, do something about.
Mr. Maybin-Thank you. As an
architect I want to stress the point
that all these speakers have made:
Consult with engineers in the early
preliminary stage of any building de-
sign. This is of the utmost impor-
tance. If it is not done, complications
of both structure and equipment are
bound to result-and possibly to an
extent that will ruin the design that
you have presented to your client.
A building is much more than just
a design. It is an architectural idea
plus all the structural elements and
various items of equipment necessary
to make it serve its purpose. And
the earlier all these are coordinated
the better it is for everybody con-

When structural and mechanical
requirements develop complications
to an extent that a design idea is lost
or must be radically changed or even
abandoned, the engineers can hardly
be blamed. I think a great deal of
criticism must fall on architects who
have not been adequately trained in
the understanding of these engineer-
ing problems. No one can really de-
sign a building without designing at
least some concept of the engineering
On the other hand, many engi-
neers are unmindful of architectural
requirements. They are also inclined
to provide information on both struc-
tural and equipment items that has
not been thought through sufficiently
to be accurate. So when the archi-
tect uses this information, he finds
that his design must be changed to
accommodate larger structural mem-
bers or more space for mechanical
equipment than he had first been
told were necessary. And there, of
course, the engineers are at fault.
So the trouble is not always on
one side or the other. The only an-
swer to the problem is working to-
gether from the very start of a pro-
ject then as the job progresses,
trying to anticipate what the other
fellow needs and being ready to
move to meet the need cooperatively.
Now, are there any questions?

As during the first session of the
Seminar, some general observations
were offered and some discussion oc-
curred that were not to the main
points of this Seminar. The follow-
ing questions and answers have been
briefed as contributing to some di-
rect or related point made by the

Q-We hear a great deal about
another kind of coordination-mod-
ular coordination. Does use of a mod-
ular system based on multiples of
four inches materially facilitate co-
ordination of a building's structural
and mechanical systems?

A (By Mr. Bishop)-As concerns
structural systems, the modular
method works well. It is not always
possible to work with modular lay-
outs where column and beam spacings

must be different and each may be
carrying a different load. But when
we can work with the modular system
it does help structurally. I think it
would not greatly affect the layout of
electrical or mechanical systems.

Q-Regarding Mr. Sploner's point
about the architect turning work over
to a draftsman with whom the engi-
neer must deal, isn't the architect-
at least in the small firm-more
familiar with the plans in his office
than the engineer is with the plans
in his office? Many times I have
called an engineering firm and the
head of the office had no idea what
was going on and had to call on
somebody to answer my questions.

A(By Mr. Spooner)-Well, in our
office of two men, one man takes a
job from the very beginning, works
with the architect from the prelim-
inaries on, designs it and draws it. The
other man knows very little about it.
When it is completely finished, how-
ever, he takes it and checks it
through completely design, de-
tails, dimensions, everything. So we
don't have the problem you speak of,
though I do know it exists in larger

Q-How about the engineers' re-
sponsibility for mistakes? Shouldn't
there be some definite agreement
that the engineer will pay for the
mistakes he makes instead of depend-
ing on the architect to take the
whole load of responsibility?

A (By Mr. Ebaugh)-I think you
are entirely right; and this is the
practice in our office. Architectural
or engineering plans for any major
building are seldom absolutely per-
fect; and we could all pick out some
sort of error in almost any of them.
But an error and an extra are not
always the same. If the contractor on
the job is the type that immediately
begins to hunt places to claim extras,
all of us have troubles. Our experi-
ence is that the better contractors
are willing to work out of most con-
flicts so as to preserve the original
intent of the contract which is to
produce a workable and satisfactory
installation. Occasionally there is
nothing to do but recognize the sit-
uation as an error and accept the re-
sponsibility for it.
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I have just finished reviewing the efforts and results of a zealous, dedicated man-
ANTHONY L. PULLARA. He was zealous in his efforts to accomplish results beyond the expec-
tations of those who worked with him and for whom he worked. And in the attitude he
displayed toward whatever he put his hand to he revealed his dedication to the high stand-
ards he had set himself and his sincere loyalty to his colleagues, his friends, his com-
munity and his professional ideals.

All suffered loss when Tony died, after a two-weeks illness, on July 9, 1961, in Tampa,
the city of his birth. He had not yet reached his 44th birthday. But he had already built
a successful and growing practice. He was a devoted husband and the fun-loving father of
two little girls. He was not only a fine professional, but a prolific giver of himself in all
areas of good citizenship. He found time to aid his community in many ways as a mem-
ber of the Tampa Chamber of Commerce and The Committee of 100, as an active
participant in work of the Tampa Lions Club and the United Fund. And his interest in
youth found expression in the Boy Scout program to which he recently had been appointed
a District Director.

The FAA particularly will miss him. He believed in organization; and to the FAA
he gave freely of his abilities in long and faithful service on the FAA Board, as a hard-
working member of many committees and, most recently, as chairman of the Government
Relations Committee. At home he was a member of the Florida Central Chapter, the
Greater Tampa Association of Architects and a member of the advisory committee to the
Florida State Board of Control for the University of South Florida.

For Tony we can truly say that old. well-remembered valedictory "Well done, good
and faithful servant."-RoBERT H. LEVISON

AUGUST, 1961

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portion of the building is scheduled
for the near future. Though the pres-
ent portion lacks the full architectural
development shown in the sketch-
which won the only award in the com-
merce category of P/A's 1961 Design
Awards Program-it still stands as a
noteworthy solution to the design
problem. Construction is of concrete
block framed with precast-prestressed
members. Roof slabs are a series of
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Centennial House Competition

A P/R project, now nearing com-
pletion in the Polk County area has
proved so effective and generally suc-
cessful as to have a national impact.
It was a joint activity of the Polk
County Builders' Association and the
Architects' Association of Polk
County and centered on the con-
struction of a small house to be built
from a competitively chosen design
as part of the Polk County Centen-
nial Celebration this year. Size of
the house was limited to 1,300
square feet, and construction cost to
$19,000. The type selected for the
design competition was specified to

contain three bedrooms, two baths
and a double carport in addition to
other usual rooms.
All draftsmen as well as architect
members of the county architects
group were invited to enter; and the
builders' association agreed to build
the winning design. It is now under
construction on a site near Cypress
Gardens, at Winter Haven, which
was donated by a Winter Haven
developer, JOHN WOOD. The whole
program was coordinated for the
architects by CLYDE J. PARLIER, pres-
ident of the local professional group,
with D. THOMAS KINCAID, chairman

of the public relations committee,
and GEORGE K. MILLER, president
of the builders' association, with
RALPH Rossi, the association's execu-
tive secretary. Upon completion the
house will be sold completely fur-
nished with the 77 by 122-foot lot
Winners of the design competi-
tion were J. BRUCE SPENCER, first,
PRENTIS S. HOWARD, second, and D.
THOMAS KINCAID, third. The first
two are designers in the Lakeland
office of A. WYNN HOWELL, now
serving his second term as president
of the Florida Central Chapter, AIA.

This design, by J. Bruce Spencer, was
the jury's unanimous choice for first
place. Here, in part, is the publicity
release describing it: "Most striking
feature is the gabled roof, vaguely
resembling the French Mansard,
over the great central hall of a living
area enclosed by fixed glass in
clerestory above, and below six-foot-
wide glass panels and redwood jal-
ousies Dividing each clerestory is
a bank of redwood jalousies which
would draw hot air from the 14-foot
ceiling on days when the air condi-
tioning was not on... Inside, the big
30 by 18-foot living and dining area
is ceilinged in white plaster and ex-
posed natural wood space frames. Bi-
secting this central living area is a
large air conditioning duct above and
free-standing cabinets below with
space flowing freely about both ob-
jects The great ceiling height
helps fulfill the designer's desire that
several types of views and spaces be
incorporated into the house. There
are short views and relatively long
views. The bedrooms have eight-foot
ceilings, the baths six-foot, eight-
inch ceilings and the living-dining
room a 14-foot ceiling height. As a
person moves about this house he
will have a variety of experience of
shapes, spaces and views, relating the
house to the esthetic needs of its
occupants Materials used include:
Terrazzo floors, buff-colored concrete
blocks, plaster partitions and ceilings,
areas of fixed glass, pairs of wood-
louvered doors and reed fencing."

Third place winner was designed by
D. Thomas Kincaid, Winter Haven ar-
chitect. The T-shaped plan provides
separation of living-dining areas from
bedrooms; and the placement of the
carport assures privacy from the

At the time of the competition both
men were unregistered, but Spencer
has since been granted registration.
Kincaid is an architect practicing in
Winter Haven.
Twelve entries were submitted to
the jury composed of JAMES T.
LENDRUM, Head, Department of
Architecture, U/F, Gainesville, WIL-
LIAM B. HARVARD, St. Petersburg,
and MARK HAMPTON, Tampa, all of
whom are members of the AIA. Both
sponsoring associations had agreed
that the jury should not be named
from residents of Polk County.
The project has aroused wide in-
terest throughout the County. Local
papers have carried stories regarding
it and the Tampa Tribune ran a
feature that included illustrations of
the three winning designs. In addi-
tion, the national magazine Living
for Young Homemakers is planning
a presentation based on the construc-
tion of the prize-winning Centennial
house design for a fall issue.
A spokesman for the architects'
group said that the cooperative de-
sign and construction program has
been valuable in developing closer
and more understanding contacts be-
tween architects and builders. Plans
now in the making call for a continu-
ation of this kind of cooperative
activity and include the possibility
that the small house competition
program will be repeated next year.

Second place winner was this design
by Prentice S. Howard. Especially note-
worthy is the employment of a central
utility core and the use of courts, or
patios, on all four sides. Courts are
enclosed by bamboo fences.


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Professional Service
Corporation Act
During the 1961 session, the Legis-
lature passed what has become known
as the Professional Service Corpora-
tion Act. In essence this permits pro-
fessional people-including architects
-to form corporations, subject to cer-
tain provisions and restrictions. Basic-
ally, the Act has the objective of mak-
ing it possible for professional people
to enjoy the benefits of such corporate
programs as group insurance and pen-
sion plans that have not formerly been
available to them.
However, a number of questions
relative to the implications of the new
law and its possible effect on archi-
tectural practice have arisen. Archi-
tects have naturally sought clarifica-
tion of these matters. They have
queried the State Board relative to
them to such a degree that the Board
has issued the following statement as
a blanket answer:
"Many inquiries have been received
by the Florida State Board of Archi-
tecture concerning the Professional
Service Corporation Act of 1961. The
Board recommends that no architect
should seek to practice architecture
differently than is now regarded as
"Until the Act has been interpreted
after careful study by the Board and
its attorneys with advice from State
officials, the registered architects
should proceed with great caution in
seeking the benefits of this Act. No
incorporation under the Act should
be attempted prematurely. The Board
plans promptly to give a definite rul-
ing with directions."

State Law Upheld
It happened in Maine. But since
the matter went all the way up to
the U.S. Supreme Court, it becomes a
subject of high interest and legal im-
portance to every other state. Here's
the story.
One MELVIN W. BECK, of Water-
ville, Maine, a professional engineer
licensed in Maine, had been con-
victed of the illegal practice of archi-
tecture by two lower Maine courts.
He appealed to the Maine Supreme
Court which upheld and confirmed
his previous conviction by the two
lower courts. Thereupon, Beck ap-

pealed the decision to the United
States Supreme Court.
In one of its last decisions before
adjournment in Mid-June, 1961, the
United States Supreme' ourt refused
to hear Beck's appeal "for lack of a
Federal question". By this action it
confirmed the previous verdict against
Beck of the Maine Supreme Court.
Information on this case came
from AMBROSE C. CRAMER, secretary
of the Maine State Board of Archi-
tects, who writes, "As far as this Board
knows, this is a rare example of un-
equivocal conviction for the illegal
practice of architecture." Through
its action the United States Supreme
Court recognizes that the regulation
of architectural practice is a State, not
a Federal matter. Thus, in Florida,
as well as in Maine, the State Su-
preme Court is the last court of ap-
peal for any individual convicted here
of the illegal practice of architecture.

Miami CSI Gets New
Tile Specs Assignment
The Greater Miami Chapter of the
Construction Specifications Institute
has been assigned, by the national
organization, the job of writing a new
and better standard specification for
ceramic tile. This is in line with the
expanding CSI program of develop-
ing improvements in all types and
categories of construction specifica-
A committee has been named from
the Chapter membership to work on
the new tile specification. Chairman
is NORMAN SKEELS, AIA; and mem-
bers include DONALD H. SMITH, AIA,
Mosaic Tile Co., and WILFORD H.
BURKHART, American-Olean Tile Co.
Working with the committee as a
consultant will be DONALD MARIUTTO,
an official of the Dade County Tile,
Marble and Terrazzo Contractors'
The Greater Miami Chapter is the
first of three CSI chapters to be or-
ganized in Florida. With a member-
ship composed of the area's top-flight
specification writers and representa-
tives of trades and various manufac-
turers, it was early organized into a
number of working committees, each
assigned like the new tile specs
committee to the development of

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improved specification techniques.
Concrete results are now in evidence.
Last October the Chapter issued
the first of a projected program of
publications a pamphlet called
"Specification Section Titles" which W A S IIN GTON F R
is a standard list of numbered and AERA L
titled specification sections that is
flexible and is adaptable to small or Individual financing tailored to
large projects of all types. Just re- your clients' needs on residential
cently work on several Section Check and commercial building.
Lists has been completed. Six have FOR Payments to contractors and
already been published and are now sub-contractors and lien releases
available to practicing architects. They JCUSTOM may be handled through our
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Decks); 52A (Heating); 53 (Venti- FINANCING Land Development Loans and
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These check lists are available to information available from our
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Section Titles pamphet is fifty cents. commitments without cost
Some twenty additional section or obligation.
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A Federal Building Code covering
protective factors as overload capacity,
fire and fallout resistance as a guide com pact
to the design of atomic shelters is
vitally necessary, according to H. H. kitchen
EDWARDS, of Lakeland. Edwards, pres-
ident of Leap Associates, Inc., a con-
suting firm and a pioneer in the pre- SPACEMAKER DWYER SERIES
stressed concrete industry, made the 51, only 54' in
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the Lakeland Kiwanis Club. models 39" to 69",
He suggested that the federal stand- gas or electric.
yards apply particularly to industrial
plants so that production for defense
could resist a nuclear attack with a
minimum of loss. Such protection, he
said, could be achieved through the
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an added cost of less" than one dollar
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eight-inch thickness of concrete as a
plant protection against fallout.
He cited the elasticity of prestressed
concrete as one basis for his recom-
mendations. Prestressing steel, Ed-
wards said, is more than six times as
strong as normal, rolled structural steel
beams-and on a strength basis, costs
about half as much. Steel becomes the
muscle of prestressed concrete, caus-
ing concrete to lose brittleness and
become elastic and resilient.

On The Distaff Side .
WIC-Women in Construction-
a national organization of women who
are employed in some phase of the
construction industry, is showing a
healthy growth in Florida. First Chap-
ter here was in Daytona Beach about
two years ago. Now Miami has a chap-
ter and plans are underway to create
other affiliated groups in West Palm
Beach, in the Hollywood-Ft. Lauder-
dale area and in the Marathon-Key
West area. Prospective members
should contact ELAINE HALQUIST,
12005 N. W. 2nd Ave., Miami 50.

Last month we announced post-
ponement of the report by the
FAA's Government Relations Com-
mittee of FAA activities in Talla-
hassee during the legislative session.
Postponement was due to the sud-
den illness of the Committee's
chairman, Anthony L. Pullara; and
we had hoped that the report could
have been presented in this issue.
However, the chairman's saddening
and untimely death has made this,
too, impossible. President Robert
H. Levison has taken over the reins
of the committee and hopes to re-
lease information on its work and
accomplishments for publication in

New officers of the Miami Chapter
are: BETTY FISHER, John A. Volpe
Construction Co., president; ELAINE
HALQUIST, vice president! JEAN
POTTER, secretary; and ELIZABETH
UPSHAW, treasurer.
The FAA's energetic Administrative
Secretary, VERNA M. SHERMAN, repre-
sented the Association at a meeting

of state association executives held at
AIA headquarters, Washington, July
10-11. She was the only woman at-
tending the two day meeting that was
conducted by AIA Executive Director
William H. Scheick and was designed
to permit discussion and exchange of
ideas on a wide range ofstate associa-
tion programs and problems.
Office Changes .
MAURICE HOLLEY has announced
a new location for his office at 601
N. Flagler Court, Suite 200-203, West
Palm Beach. The telephone number
is unchanged-TEmple 3-5300.
RICHARD C. REILLY has opened his
own office at 2504 N. Federal High-
way, Ft. Lauderdale. The telephone
is LOgan 4-7207.
the opening of his office at Suite 5,
Cutler Ridge Professional Building,
10700 Caribbean Blvd., Miami 57.
Telephone is CEdar 5-5334.
his offices to 2081 S. W. 27th Ter-
race, Fort Lauderdale.
J. R. OGDEN, JR., has opened a new
office at 675 N. E. 123 Street, North
Miami. His two telephone numbers
are PLaza 4-6998 and Plaza 9-5527.

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P/R Committee...
(Continued from Page 6)

4 Cooperation on a group
basis with other professional and trade
organizations in activities involving
the safety and welfare of the public.
One conclusion of the meeting re-
ferred to sponsorship of such social
events as a "Beaux Arts Ball" that
are conducted by a number of chap-
ters. Recognized as necessary to a
well-rounded chapter program, such
events, however, should not involve
any large percentage of chapter P/R
funds nor be relied upon for any sub-
stantial P/R advantage, according
to the consensus of the meeting.
Approval was voiced on the P/R
programs conducted by individual
firms. Not only are these proving
effective for the firms themselves,
but they are valuable also as a means
of informing the public on various
phases of architectural practice and
often on the values of good archi-
tectural design.
Three recommendations were de-
veloped at the meeting. One referred
to The Florida Architect which was
again endorsed as being an effective,
overall P/R tool. This involved the
general opinion that architects
should support the magazine by
sending the editor more articles and
projects for presentation than at pres-
ent; and that they also should voice
both approval and criticism as a
guide to the editor in the develop-
ment and presentation of material.
Without such contacts it is difficult
for an editor to reflect the desires of
the architects he serves.
Another recommendation was that
chapter P/R committee chairmen
should serve a minimum term of
three years to provide a continuity of
contact and policy now lacking. The
third conclusion was that architects
should widen their contacts with,
and understanding of, such matters
as government construction pro-
grams, commercial financing opera-
tions, urban renewal, city planning,
and market research. These fields are
now recognized as being within the
scope and concern of architectural
practice. Closer liaison with them
can provide architects with the
means for assuring continuance of
their traditional role in the develop-
ment of their environment at both
community and state-wide levels.
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Office Practice Seminar...
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Q-No one has mentioned anoth-
er person who has something to do
with architect-engineer relations. This
is the client-who can sometimes
quite suddenly change his mind.
While the client is the architect's re-
sponsibility, the architect isn't al-
ways able to sell him out of his
change of mind. Also, some clients
are big corporations that employ en-
gineers. The architect accepts the
job which then has to be examined
by the client's engineer who has to do
so to justify his job. He may be in vio-
lent disagreement with the air con-
ditioning engineer, let's say, who has
been retained by the architect. Is
there any solution to this problem?

A (By Mr. Ebaugh)-This hap-
pens. We have such clients. There
are industrial and engineering organi-
zations that usually think first in
terms of having an engineering group
handle their project. When they ap-
proach us in these terms we say we
will employ an architect to handle
the portions of the project on which
his skill is especially needed. This has
happened on power plant work and
on industrial work. My firm-and I
personally-take the view that 99
per cent of all clients should first
talk to an architect who should then
hire us to handle the engineering
If you can sit down in the clients'
office and find out how they're think-
ing on this subject, you can fre-
quently work out a meeting of the
minds along these lines. The time to
do this is at the early preliminary
stage of any project-not when they
get your work to review.

Q-I've heard all you gentlemen
ask for a conference with the archi-
tect regarding the preliminaries after
the preliminaries were done. How
can you work to help a creative archi-
tect even before the preliminaries are

A (By Mr. Bishop)-No two ar-
chitects really think alike or act
alike. Some you can work with in the
very preliminary stages, others you
cannot. If you can deal with them in
their preliminary thinking, you can
often help them not only relative to
the types of structural systems that

might be used, but also as to the types
of materials they may wish to em-
ploy. Sometimes it is even possible
to assist in the solution of a design
problem--such as developing thin
sections or a cantilever ten feet deep.
But some architects like to work out
their design first and then have the
engineer come in and put a structure
under it. It's a bit difficult to say
how you can help then. Helping with
the selection of structural systems
and materials is probably the most
important during the early stages of
a project. The point in this: coor-
dination starts at different stages with
different architects.

A (By Mr. Spooner)-A basic point
should be discussed at the very be-
ginning of the preliminary stage. This
is: What is the important thing
about the project? Is it the looks, the
esthetic value, of the building, is it
the economics of the building-or
what? If this isn't done, particularly
if you're working on a tight budget,
and if you develop the preliminaries
before consulting with the engineer,
you may suddenly find that you've
put in a lot of work on a design that's
going to cost too much money. Then
it's almost too late.
I like to think first of the structural
system in terms of cost-even though
I, too, get paid on a percentage basis.
If an early decision can be made on
the important thing about the build-
ing, then the architect might be able
to justify those little design frills that
will cost as much or more than what
I've been able to save on the struc-
tural system.

Comment by Mr. Maybin This
whole question of architect-engineer
coordination-even to the point of
when you call the engineer in for first
consultation-seems to be primarily
a matter of education. Architects need
more engineering training in school-
not to become engineers, but to un-
derstand better the engineers' prob-
lems and to anticipate these in his
designing so he doesn't need to call
the engineer in to correct him every
time he draws a line. This is the archi-
tect's problem. The more education
and experience he has with engineer-
ing factors, the better able he is to
design a building. The best designer is
one who avoids engineering problems
because he understands them and has
anticipated engineering requirements

in his architectural design. He doesn't
need to "shoe-horn" them in the
building. He has determined, gener-
ally, what is needed and where it
should go. Then, at the proper time,
the engineer comes in and does the
technical and detail work necessary
to make the project a complete unit.
We have placed great emphasis on
the expression of the structural system
in design. But we have not yet ap-
proached design from the standpoint
of also expressing the mechanical sys-
tems of a building. PAUL RUDOLPH
has attempted this in trying to express
some of the shapes and areas involved
in the mechanical requirements. This
is design-for you are then designing
the total building and not just certain
segments of it.
In my firm our engineering depart-
ment gets in on the building program
from its very start. Before we draw a
line or formulate a design concept we
discuss the engineering requirements.
What does the project need? Where
should it be placed? What areas are
required? These are the things an
engineer can help us with-helping
to round out the whole building pro-
gram on a preliminary basis, even be-
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