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Miss Choc 60A
Sub: Jimmy Jim
Int: Howard Dixon
Carl Isaac
9-26-79
A.M.
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I: We are interviewing Jimmy Jim on industrial arts today. Uumri-. September
T&26, 1979. IntervieweirHoward Dixon and Carl Isaac. 4 Jimmy could
you tell us about your background?
J: Well I attended Choctaw Central High School, graduateafrom here, then I went
to art school in New Mexico for two years, post graduate and from there
I went gB technical school in New Jersey for about year, come back home and
then I went to Junior College. Went there about year and a half.
Then I got married. Then after after I got married started back college
and finally finished it.
I: What made you decide to take industrial arts as your career?
J: Well I was ....really wanna go in electrical engineer. Then ya know
programs they had on Educate... it's students in education
only. So that's why I went on and instead I changed to industrial arts.
I: Have you taught anywhere tatis=6 : te Choctaw City?
J: No.
I: ?
J: Going on my third year here.
I: Since you've been here, how have the students progressed in their work?
J: For my class I've started with the basics, basics in drawing, metal working,
and woodworking, and electricity. Start off with the basics then we go up
from there.
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I: When you started teaching, did you have those machines?
J: You mean the one we have in there now?
I: Yeah.
J: When I got here it was already here, yeah.
I: Do you know how to work with all those machines?
J: et3he. Ye,
I: How long...V. How long did it take to learn all those machines?
J: For me..... or for students?
I: Students.
J: For students? It wouldn't take very long. We have some students that are
eager to learn ya know. When you have students like that it don't take
long.
I: What',b Y&cX 0pv' i 3c`) j -rco want to take z e ?
J: .,? I think it ya know that would be a nice/yor
anybody.. .' nowadays ya know.
I: Was there any opportunities when you first started?
J: Oh.W in ;h -.g vocational education?
I: Yeah.
J: jfri.I wasn't aware of it really.
I: How was it like going away and from the tribe to own community?
J: Going away and coming -dn here?
I: Mmm hmm.
J: What was it like? jw well coming back home, workinwith the people here
I: Mmm hmm.
J: I think I'd be better working with my own people than ya know go somewhere
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S work. But sincelya know, I've been to other places before, seen what it's like.
I: Did you feel different from other people?
J: What when I was away?
I: Yes.
J: No.
I: How did the people treat ya?
J: Well like WAya know just one of them. Ya get.... sa
I: From your experience, what advice would you give to a student finishing
college and looking for a job?
J: -Ging back to Choctaw Central and work here-in equciion,
. We need more Choctaw 6 A reservation. In education as well as in tribal
folk I'd like to see more Choctaws in here.
I: What are your future plans for industrial arts.
J: As of now? I'm not really sure yet. I like what I'm doing right now.
I: What are you.....~
J: Maybe in the future I might think of something else)but as of now, I like
the way it is. I don't have any _. I'm just doing a little
bit of everything.
I: What do you think about student's discipline in school?
0; I think we need strict discipline here at Choctaw Central...... with more
help from the parents...... like we used to have ini:the old days.
I: ,,'what happened to someone who skipped class?
J: We didn't have anybody skipping class during my time.
I: You mean back then?
J: Yeah. Right. While I was going to school here. Nobody skips class or
cuts class either. Of course, \ sent us -r. school >
Of corsent us SC z,~--
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to
'/Istay in school. We didn't ,,.,v ya know, back home.
I: Was the discipline changed since you'be been here?
J: Right. Very much. Cause I've seen plenty of students walking around
everyday.!,=- not attending class. We need more stricter...
I: How did the students cooperate in class?
J: In my class? We get along alright. very well. I like
it. (long pause) Some students who are still not asking questions where
some of them they fot involved. I think we're really improving
Choctaw. Especially comparing to the first class I ever had when I first
started working here.
I: Plan on going somewhere else to teach?
J: To teach? No. Definitely nod- [chuckle), To teach maybe for ya know other
jobs, different jobs if Iya know..... if I like to go ya know different
jobs are open but-ptxme somewhere else and work. I might ____ .
Not to teach.
I: How do you like the recreation around the reservation?
J: `h tribal program or school? Which one?
I: Tribal.
J: Tribal? Well from what I heard itsjr-ia it's alright .z-3 I'd say. I
I dontt participate in all the sports they have going on here. I participate
in basketball. That's about the only sport We had a little
team ya know, little tea/mast year. This year we plan to have another oneprv ,
with-uh ..> with my former classmates. ) _, supposed to have
a team this year. some trophies, .
I: What about the school recreation?
J: School recreation? I think we have a pretty good program here comparing
to to the time I was in school here. PWhole lot better cause we didn't have
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J: any, chuckle., If we did Ya'll
had pretty good opportunity ya know in sports get scholarships
to go to college. Basketball Pretty good chance.
Got pretty good chance which I didn't but.
So high school sports were..... like I said And
baseball As I was saying awhile ago, high school here
has had pretty good sports I'd like to see Carl Isaac with
some professional baseball team as a pitcher. high school
team.
(End of interview)
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Miss Choe 60A Sub: Jimmy Jim Int: Howard Dixon Carl Isaac 9-26-79 A.M. Page -1I: We are interviewing Jimmy Jim on industrial arts today. ttumiii~;.,,... September ecf?. <:., tiii,.26, 1979. Interviewe1ttoward Dixon and Carl Isaac. lffi, Jimmy could you tell us about your background? J: Well I attended Choctaw Central High School, graduatedfrom here, then I went to art school in New Mexico for two years, post graduate and from there ' I went jli technical school in New Jersey for about year, come back home and then I went to Junior College. Went there about year and a half. ---Then I got married. Then after after I got married started back college and finally finished it. I: What made you decide to take industrial arts as your career? J: Well I was really wanna go in ,6electrical engineer. Then ya know programs they had on ________ Educate it's students in education only. So that's why I went on and instead I changed to industrial arts. 110t:. I YV"..o \d~ I: Have you taught anywhere .tha.i.::!::s=-ue Choctaw City? J: No. I: __________ ? J: Going on my third year here. I: Since you've been here, how have the students progressed in their work? J: For my class I've started with the basics, basics in drawing, metal working, and woodworking, and electricity. Start off with the basics then we go up from there.
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Miss Choe 60A -2I: J: When you started teaching, did you have those machines? You mean the one we have in there now? I: Yeah. J: When I got here it was already here, yeah. I: Do you know how to work with all those machines? J: I: .,,,-----:; How long How long did it take to learn all those machines? J: For me :,.::~r for students? ',.______, I: Students. J: For students? It wouldn't take very long. We have some students that are eager to learn ya know. When you have students like that it don't take long. I: Was there any opportunities when you first started? J: Oh ... in uh~ vocational education? I: Yeah. J: GI wasn't aware of it really. I: How was it like going away and from the tribe to own community? "oos: .. 'I(_ J: Going away and coming-~ here? I: Mmm hmm. J: Whal: was it like? ~ell coming back home, workin{with the people herel, I: Mmm hmm. J: I think I'd be better working with my own people thanJya knoi go somewhere ek:R-J
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Miss Choe 60A -3&work. But since 1 ya know) I've been to other places before, seen what it's like. I: Did you feel different from other people? J: What when I was away? I: Yes. J: No. I: How did the people treat ya? I wo.SJ J: Well like ~ya knowJ just one of them. Ya get C!'.C!~ I: From your experience, what advice would you give to a student finishing college and looking for a job? Q,ovv,e J: -Q;Yng back to Choctaw Central and work her& 1 n duc_nijon, l1e1Qe on -l:\,c 16 /1 We need more Choctaw ____ reservation. In education as well as in tribal folk I'd like to see more Choctaws in here. --------I: What are your future plans for industrial arts. J: As of now? I'm not really sure yet. I like what I'm doing right now .I I: What are you ~;;/--J: Maybe in the future I might think of something else)but as of now, I like \ \ \. ' . ' \ \ :--,o\'.)01s::'.':'.i1 1x.:.cu1y d I: I: J: I: J: the way it is. I don't have any : I'm just doing a little c?"-----bit of everything. What do you think about student's discipline in school? I think we need strict discipline here at Choctaw Central with more help from the parents. like we used to have in ,:the old days. b0-. c::., \', l"" ~"' what happened to someone who skipped class? ---C/--1--,----,.C.;;, We didn't have anybody skipping class during my time. You mean back then? Yeah. Right. While I was going to school here. Nobody skips class or cuts class either. Of course, 1 y f)G.\~ (:.,•it:; 't 0 _________ sent us 6:.~• school~z;:,
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Miss Choe 60A -4to 4}, /)stay in school. We didn I t; oz.,, ya knowJ ________ back home. I: Was the discipline changed since you'be been here? J: Right. Very much. Cause I've seen plenty of students walking around .:ffevericlay~ not attending class. We need more stricter o~ I: How did the students cooperate in class? J: In my class? We get along alright. ----------very well. I like it. (long pause) Some students who are still not asking questions where some of them they ~eav\\y c..1 -'not involved. I think we're really improving Choctaw. Especially comparing to the first class I ever had when I first started working here. I: Plan on going somewhere else to teach? I J: To teach? No. Defin~tely noc:r frhucklE:). To teach maybe for ya know other jobs, different jobs if I,ya know if I like to go ya know different L c, ' 1 c.ov\ cY so l'l'le.'K~) \:, c,C jobs are open 1 but~ somewhere else and work. I might , Not to teach. I: How do you like the recreation around the reservation? J: IJh.~ribal program or school? Which one? I: Tribal. J: Tribal? Well from what I heard itJ 11;.• .. it's alright_,, -&-i I'd say. I I dontt participate in all the sports they have going on •here. I participate in basketball. That's about the only sport ________ We had a little we, 0-... 1 ;,.C'.o:,rY, team)ya know) little .team.lnast year. This year we plan to have another one,.....,.~" '"'.Yi \ d ,1 Jl I V pLI.C I 0'c\'v l, 1 11\\'\,, (;,_ Witn:.::P:!!;~ with my former classmates. -----i----' supposed to have OvR o\o\ tco-v,-, Cc'O , .. , a team this year. 1 some trophies, __ _,_ __ _ 0' c::::r-, I: What about the school recreation? J: School recreation? I think we have a pretty good program here comparing toJto the time I was in school here. Awtiole lot better cause we didn't have
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J: Miss Choe 60A -5an~ {buckle). If we did Ya'll ----------'y1 ()_(.A __ c_o_cJ,... _ d..,.. \ _ v _ :., -~:,, --:, --, : :)/ had pretty good opportunity ya know in sports 1 get scholarships CT' " to go to college. Basketball Pretty good chance Got pretty good chance which I didn't but. ------------So high school sports were like I said And ---------baseball _______ As I was saying awhile ago, high school here has had pretty good sports---~---I'd like to see Carl Isaac with some professional baseball team as a pitcher. ---,-----high school team. (End of interview)
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