Interview with Mrs. Peter Hunt, April 26, 1974

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INTERVIEWEE: Mrs. Peter Hunt

April 26, 1974 dib

B: This is April 26, 1974. I'm Lew Barton recording for the History

Department of the University of Florida and its American Indian Oral

History Program. Tonight, today I am in the Prospect community. That's

P-r-o-s-p-e-c-t. This is the community where I was born and brought up,

and I am in the home of Mr. and Mrs. Peter Hunt, and with me, kindly

consenting to give me an interview, is Mrs. Hunt. Mrs. Hunt, how are you


H: I'm doing very fine.

B: I'm wondering if you'd tell us something about your family. You,

how many children are in the family?

H: I have-seve-ra children. I have six boys and one daughter, and I'm

really iiorUA and older grandchildren.

B: How many grandchildren do you have?

H: Oh, I have about twenty-five or thirty.

B: Could you give us the names of the children, and the'ages, too, if you...

well, mothers can remember ages. But fathers are the ones that are bad

forgetters where the ages of children are concerned. There's always changing,

you know, their ages.

H: I'm always, I'm, I'm sorry about the ages. All I could do is the

names. There's RBaL. I just dontt know them all.

B: Would ou gi us the_ names?

H: Yes( J )1 /?./ -//! (/ 1 has five chil ren.

His oldest girl, 7e tOa "44 Merle, oldest Ronny,

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and Barbie Jean is the baby. And fo Ls boy that he

has is Melvin, and the girl is Marlene. And Gary Stanley, the oldest

is Av the next is Grady, and Duane, and then there's a set

of twins, and there's, we're all so proud of those, about Brent and

Ken. And the last, and will always be the last, is a baby girl, C /

Maria. The next family is 1S1. Ctf7 4*JC Joan, she's my daughter.

She has two boys. The eldest is Tod Junior, and Brian. And the next

is my baby boy, little Joel David Hunt. His two girls is Michelle, J S Am .

oldest, and his baby girl...

B: Thelma.

H: ...Geraldine.

B: C r4.^"" .

H: And then Geraldine and Joseph have a fourteen, fourteen day old

baby. Her name is Johanna. And we're so proud of our grandchildren.

And / S __ fy that's the baby, his oldest is Bobby

Lynn Hunt, and the baby, his name is Jonathan Burgess.

B: Well, you sure are blessed, aren't you?

H: Yes, I am, and I'm proud of them. They get aggravating at times, but

I'm still proud of them.

B: I was teasing you a little bit just before this interview about being

such a fine looking woman and you, you told me your age. But was that

supposed to be for me personally, or would you mind telling everybody your


H; Oh, I don't really know you, and, but some folks don't believe in telling

their age. But I don't mind, because, because I'm proud that the lord has

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spared these many years.

B: Right.

H: And according to my father, who generally was y___

a CWra f j night that I was born, January 11, 1913.

B: Have you lived right here in Prospect community all your life?

H: I lived two years in Oak County, and the rest of my life I've been


B: Right here in the Prospect community.

H: Yes, in Prospect community, and was raised by the AI I/ 1Cni) 4s

B: What's so different about the Prospect community? What makes us love

it so much do you think? It is a little something different about it,

don't you think?

H: I think it's what's called is the personality, and love, and friendship.

And when one gets in trouble everybody's willing to help.

B: Right. It's, I believe it's the most closely knit community we have

among the Indian people.

H: I think so.

B: At least we like to think that, anyway.

H: Yes.

B: We've certainly attempted to do a lot of things that we're able to

do together in this community haven.

H: Yes, and I think if we pull together like we should we would.
If we pull together in our efforts to obtain the things that we go for

and what we need, as we do with ____ death and sickness, weWM

accomplish what we have and what we need.

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B: You know, the first doctor, the first M.D. among, among our Indian

people in this county, came from this section. Right here, didn't he?

H: Yes, sir.

B: And that was...

H: Dr. L4CkIec r

B: Dr. G. W. ofb(O That was, he was, who was his father,

do you know? 3 4 A( !&ct

H: His grandpa is dead. h raised e and I A r"
HA ar)t aodcitear Lo dc e i0 g tL I AWGA#eLilyv was his sister. Patrick LotE; rJunior IeLor,

Harold %'.rtTe. I guess those are the kids.

B: Those are his brothers?

H: Yes, they was.

B: And his father's name was Preston.

H: Preston.

B: He was.

H: And then Preston's wife was named Aline.

B: I don't know how to spell that, do you?

H: Unless it was L-i-n-e.

B: And other people who have been great Indian leaders, I think, who came

from this community. By the way I was fortunate enough to interview

Mr. Locklier when he got out of law school. Several months ago I inter-

viewed him in Washington, D. C. And I was really proud of him. Do you

know him personally? The lawyer. The young lawyer. Was that Mr. Gilmore's

son? The late Mr. Gilmore's son?

H: And Miss Elizabeth?

B: Uh huh.

H: I'm sorry. I don't even know him.

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B: Well, this is a rather large community, too, isn't it?

H: Yes, it is.

B: And it was right here that the idea for the Lumbee Recreation Center

was born.

H: That's where it was accomplished, and my brother was the accomplish-

ment of it, I4x ,

B: I'm sorry I didn't get to interview Mr. Lester l_____ before he passed

on. When did he pass on, last year?

H: ai k e .'

B: Well, he was killed in an automobile accident.

H: Yes.

B: He was also a great Indian leader, I think.

H: Yes, he was.

B: He was always doing something for his people. Could you tell us a little

something about Lester.0 since he's not here to speak ^Aggls

H: Well, he believed in f 1 i p & the school, and decided to help
rCevcavhvy 5L7rv v v I
with the rm:hrmian and decided to get the for the needy

children that wasn't able to pay for their lunches, you know, in school.

And he was just outstanding for all those. He really believed in trying

to help the Indians.

B: Right.

H: Though he was kicked around ,,u/fA r /i, ^&' //, b&c' ,. #

B: Right.

H: But that's what he really lived for. And speaking of what he did, he

was the first Indian that got r'/t /f):.Florida State Schools.
1i St co

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B: Is that right?

H: Yes, he, he told, young Allan I think was out of thee at that time.

He said, "See, George wanted That the sun shines in his

eyes, then he can see, then we won't fight against it." But he said, "the

children cannot see when the sun is shining in their eyes, and that's why

I want the blinds." So he accomplished the blinds.

B: Of course, in those days we had the pretty hard job of getting the

materials that we needed in our schools, didn't we?

H: Well, we didn't have them. We'd have to meet the mailman to get this

all. It was delivered by mail. We didn't have the supplies then that we,

now we have and then supplies, and then the mailman brought

what mostly we needed.

B: Well, you attended school in Prospect?

H: All my life. I completed my high school there.

B: Yes, I remember, I suppose I was in high school in Prospect when you

were. Were you in, you must have been in some of the grades slightly

ahead of me.

H: I was in ninth grade, and at that time you, if you come out with

your diploma, which I did...

B: And I did.

H: And won your own 6l and had good grades, you were eligible

then to teach at that time.

B: Yes.

H: You didn't have to take these four years in college.


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H: And Mr. father had given me the school as long as I'm able

to take it.

B: Yes, I, do you remember what year it was you graduated?

H: 1930, 1932.

B: 1932. Oh, I must have been quite a bit behind you, cause I think I

was, it was about '37 when I graduated. How about the good old fashioned

Indian friendliness and hospitality, and all that sort of thing? Do

you think you find it here? If it's, if it's emphasized anywhere it should

be right here in this community.

H: Well, I've been sir a in our generation of what we call the

generation gap. The old folks back then, if they _) c_ _

What ever they had they shared. They were no higher. There was no

secrets kept. And they shared with each other. And I don't think it's

so, but j/ P today. Bost of us share alike.

B: Right. You haven't changed any. I can testify to that because when

I came over here this morning you insisted on getting up and serving me

a nice breakfast, and it was great, and I most appreciate it. That's the

way, that's the way Indian people act, and this is an example of that.

I appreciate out-people and love our people so much They are such a

great and noble people, and so misunderstood don't you think?

H: Yes, and I'm always willing, if I'm able, to do something for somebody.

I love doing it, which in my school I've been in /j_'_p 'c7t nine years,
d II o1f7iA_ ,\
and I-4m-te teacher.t I serve food for them. Maybe once a month I take

a dish where each one can have something.

B: Do you work out there?

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H: Yes.

B: You work in L__ _

H: No, I'm a maid, and I work for / A .

B: I see.

H: 0.**600. .

B: I see. Do you all do any farming?

H: Yes, our baby does. We don't do much. He was in sick for quite

a while, and has not been able. But he's the one who e ______

He hasn't BluA But he will, I don't think he'll be able to take

care of it, and so our baby son has the farm.

B: Now who is the young lady over here, this, in the room with us right


H: That's my baby g _Bobby Hunt," -41 Peggy Hunt.

B: And she has a baby on her lap I believe. What's the baby's name?

H: Bobby Lynn

B: Bobby Lynn I think he knows we're talking about him..Tell me

something about your son who is working with me, and helping me with

these interviews right now. He's doing the driving. He doesn't have

any legs and I don't have any eyes to speak of. So we make a good team.

I've got good legs and he's got good eyes. I think that's a pretty

good line up there don't you?

H: Well, I'm always proud since he's been a handicapped, he's worked

very hard to try to make a living, and up until last year he became sick,

and was out for I guess three or four weeks, and from then on up until now

he doesn't have a job. But he was working.

B: Well, he has'wek now. We're going to...

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H: Well, thank you so much.

B: We're going to work AWe're going to work He and I make a pretty good

team if I do say so myself. h'lS is the oldest one.

H: Yes, he is.

B: And his name is spelled, E, capital E...

H: E, capital E-n-e-i-s.

B: I asked you if you did any farming, didn't I?

H: Yes.

B: Do you l rW7 1a-l

H: Yes.

B: And what do you think about our situation? I mean about people, speaking

about people generally. Do you think we're better off now than we were ten

year ago? j.

H: In some way I say, yes. In some way I say,no. situation.

B: Well, everybody has that.

H: A .So as far as food and clothing, I'd say, yes, in some


B: I don't believe I could think of a family that they, where there were

hungry children, if I had to. But when I was coming along I could have

thought of, I could have thought of some like that, couldn't you?

H: Yes, I sure could, because...

B: In fact I wasn't too well.

H: No, and at that time we'd 'pick cotton for twenty-five:gm=a hundred.

B: How long would it take now, eighteen? Can you pick cotton like some

of the ___ ? I I when you were picking, wheLd you pick cotton

H: I'd pick four hundred and sixteen pounds when my daughter was two

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weeks old, and I went to the house and made dinner, and nursed her,

and was back to the field, and then the next day that you had a _D_

t ___ you could have went home today.

B: How much would, how much you say you got, a hundred?

H: Twenty-five cent a hundred. But that was our own cotton then I was

picking. But we'd our farming. Then we'd have to go out and get

other farm we could get, you know, to P ___ and take our neighbors

touring around to get their food for the winter, and their clothing and

shoes to go to school.

B: You know, Alice Bullard must have been something of a champion in

picking cotton, her and a few other people. Maybe the championship will

surely throw such a thing.i I've, I've heard people say Alice could pick

five hundred pounds in a day.

H: Yes, we had, one time we had a race withlbetween her and myself, but

the challenger never came through. And she picked it 6 1( I. She

never was calling it, and let's do it together.

B: She picked in one place and you in another.

H: Yes.

B: Maybe I should explain here for the benefit of our listeners and readers

that anyone who can.pick two hundred pounds of cotton is supposed to be

good at it. Right?

H: Yes.

B: And if they go above two hundred pounds of a day, that's, that's really

in the plus field, and you did, you would do....

H: Well, now that's how come that I could pick like that, I and brother

tr. If w'd pick lik a hundred and fifty today, w had to
Lester. If we'd pick like a hundred and fifty today, we had to gi-ie-a

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hundred and seventy-five tomorrow. That's, we, we were a-rme. We had

to pick more and more each day.

B: Well, how, how, is there a secret to it or some kind of knack to it?

Cause I never picked two hundred in my life.

H: I guess t was js y the way we used our fingers. And then we

started early-. Mr flQ y- .

B: Well, you had a long day, didn't you?

H: Yes, Sir.

B: When you picked that much would you be in the field, say, at good

daylight? \ C 6dc / k

H: Well, -we -e. g4 -t our door about

four o'clock, and we'd tthen would wake us up. I would say at

seven o'clock we'd be in the field.

B: By seven.

H: Yes.

B: And then how long would you stay out there?

H: Well, we stayed 'til the sun was set. Time enough to weigh-up.

You had to weigh the cotton then, and you'd have to...

B: Right.

H: ...stop early enough to see the numbers on the I ti that you weighed

with the scale.

B: And ee __ is part of the scale that you...

H: Yes.

B: ...slide up and down. Good, because I know most of the people who

come in contact with us won't know what a Mis. Then who would you say

was better at that than anybody? Who could pick more cotton than anybody?

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H: I'd say Watte Bullard.

B: Oh, yes, I had forgotten him. I heard about him. That's


H: -e-

B: W-a-t-t-a?

H: -e-

B: W-a-t-t-e. Thank you. How much could he pick?

H: Someone said he picked over five hundred. I don't know. But I'm

pretty sure if he said he did, he did.

B: You, you heard them say that they picked five hundred and sixty-two


H: I believe if he said he did, he did.

B: Well, I'll tell you one thing, if, if he picked that much, and I'm

sure,too, that he did, I don't believe there's anybody else who ever

picked more, do you?

H: No, he was the champion of cotton-picking at that time. How much

was it we picked at Trudy Wilson one day when I picked four hundred

and sixteen?

U: A bale, three of them picked a bale. Four hundred and, it was thir-

teen hundred and, let's see, four...Wait, I believe /ve how much

we picked one day: Four, four fifteen. One picked four 614lt

picked four hundred and fifty. They picked about four sixty. Billy

Boy picked three ninety.

B: That's Mr. Peter Hunt, the lady's husband whom I'm interviewing right

now. He, he was telling us that, in case it didn't come through very

plainly, that three of them picked a whole bale of cotton, and a whole

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bale of cotton amounts to about thirteen hundred and BSE y..

U: About thirteen fifty.

B: About thirteen hundred and fifty pounds of cotton. A whole

bale of cotton between three people in a single day. Tell me this,

when people worked like that, they did kind of make sort of a contest

out of it, didn't they? I mean, to see who could beat the other.

H: Yes, they did.

B: Do you remember the old-fashioned wood sawings that we used to go


H: Oh, did we. Yes, we cooked all kind of cakes, chicken, pastry, to

get the wood saw, peanut parking.

B: What we would do, since they don't know what a wood sawing is either,

is, and I'm sure they don't, we had to provide our own fuel, and we'd

go to the woods and cut trees down and sawed them up. But as she

said a while ago, we did a lot of sharing, and so when we were getting

our wood for the winter, then we'd have this wood sawing, and the ladies

would cook, and the men would saw wood, and the neighbors would come and

join together and do this, wouldn't they?

H: Yes.

B: I thought that was nice. I know in my teenage days I liked to go

to those things cause there were a lot of pretty girls when I went.

Don't you think there were a lot of people? Sometimes there must be

"a hundred people at one 4A-.

H: Yes, they would, because they knew there would be a lot of food, and

there'd be a lot of games, and they could enjoy themselves after the wood

sawing. They were free to do as they pleased.

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B: Right. After they, after they sawed the wood, usually it wouldn't take

but a couple of hours with that many people, would it?

H: About two hours.

B: Then you'd have supper. Then play games, and that would be wrestling

and this sort of thing. I guess, Indian wrestling, and games, and refresh-

ments. One thing I never saw at a Prospect community wood sawing, it was

a, really a sort of festival, and that was alcohol because people just

didn't bring alcohol around a wood sawing or something like that. Have

you ever seen anybody drink at a wood sawing?

H: No, I guess at that time it wasn't fitting to get it, or it wasn't

made then.

B: Well, it must have been made.

H: In the woods I mean, what I'm trying to say is...

B: You didn't see any, did you? 4

H: I walked in and mother was \T' busy, and grandfather was already

in his ( I don't know.

B: Well, sometimes people would, the kind of dance that they did in,

you know, in the community was what we call tap dancing. Not tap dancing,
"R"uk It
I'm sorry, "ie dancing. Is that right?

U: Yes. t -)CI1

B: He just said that's right, 3ef dancing. And did you ever, Peter, did

you ever see anybody who could rap while somebody else-fo lanced?

U: Yes.

B: That's when you don't have the music, somebody taps his feet.

U: Yes, sometimes...

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ir.%W Ach^J V^'~-(~e rr ef rf n sl /e

S. .E ..Syn I Joel Jacobs, I mean, Frank Jacobs was

really the best / in...

B: Frank Jacobs was the best.


B: He was the best...

U: Within the country.

B: The best tk dancer in the country.

U: noA Wo kind of music given us. There was s few fiddlin'

banjos. The most of them was banjos. C--,fimec-

five string banjos. That, that, everything you said, over a hundred

years. I mean, people been playing,over a hundred years ago people

played banjo music. You know, I mean, P ihin the 3 tree, pick-

ing out, doing all that filthy kind of junk. They played the banjos,

and .^ 4 t a ball.

B: Well, I'm going to, I'm going, I'm going, I want a whole tape on you.

O.K.? And I'm going to talk to you some more about the way people do to

entertain themselves, the way they used to do. All that sort of thing,

because that's in the field of folklore, and I, I want to ask you some-

thing about some other things, too. But let me, let me ask her a few

more questions. Now what do you do every day? You say you work out at

Prospect School.

H: I work for the R.D.A. I'm 4 supervisor over there.

B: d VMI

H: And Itmb A Sampson is my supervisor.

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B: What do you do?

H: I keep the school clean.

B: I see. What was the, can, do you have any idea what the enrollment

was when you were enrolled? About half of whqt it is today.

H: I believe when I started there, this is my ninth year, there were

four hundred and fifty some students, and there are how many now?

U: A thousand.

H: A thousand and some today.

B: Would you say, I don't know if you've ever thought of this before,

but have you, would you say that Prospect comes about as near being in

the center of the Indian community as any community we have?

H: I think so.

B: In other words we don't have any French, we don't, it's almost one

hundred percent Indian,isn't it?

H: One hundred percent.

U: No, better than ninety-eight percent. There's just a few scattered.

B: Her husband says it's a fraction of ninety-eight percent. So it is

almost a hundred percent Indian? Do you think this, this is why 3S "

_____ community is so closely knitted, people work together so well?

H: I think so.

B: Do you think we talk any different in this community than in other

Indian communities, other Indian communities in the county?

H: Oh, yes. We speak plainer English, and we understand each other better.

B: We, we speak plainer English than anybody else, and everybody calls

everybody else, "Jack". Wonder why that is.

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H: Because there's a friendship between the people, and bf L'C V A

each other4,.,

B: If it's a man you call him "Jack". But if it's a woman what do

you call her? f!T" ?

H: "Dear".

B: Or something like that. Or "honey".

H: "Sister," "honey," or lady", something like that.

B: It's a real, it's a real friendly and folksy community, and I'm

not just saying that because I was born and brought up here. I, I hap-

pen to know that this is a warm, friendly community. How are, how are

strangers treated who pass through this community.

H: When they come to the school they're made welcome. As they're

coming down they're treated the same as, we'll welcome them then and

do the best thing we can, and make them feel like they're home.

B: Right. Now we had now, for example, when the integration plan

went through in 1970, we had more a integration in this

community than in any of the other Indian communities, didn't we?

H: Yes, we did.

B: Do you think people grieve because they were losing their, what

they considered to be their Indian schools?

H: Yes, I think that they couldn't understand the making of the school,

and that's what the confusion came about, and they thought they were

losing out.

B: I seem to recall that there was some trouble at Prospect School

one time about this, and that people went out there with hatchets and

all sorts of things tb you know, because they just ler % -*

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they weren't giving up their schools when they figured that they were

going to lose them, right?

H: Yes, and they have the hatchets, and they were there in the Si-:-j ,

and they called themselves the Tuscaroras.

B: Were the Tuscaroras leading this march over there?

H: That day. That day they had an interruption. Because of the

C Lpr
UtUFe, and went I on the campus there were about fifteen around

then) And I went in and took him out, and he had to go--* 10 C +Of

B: Well, do you think our people are as prejudiced against blacks as

they are against blacks?

H: No.

B: But do you think there is some prejudice against blacks, too?

H: Yes, I think there is.

B: And of course, they are probably prejudiced against us, and so that

makes it a three way tie.

H: That's right. Now speaking for myself there are three, there-was

at that time, colored ladies in our school. They were as nice as our

Indian ladies. And today we have one. Her name is Miss Gibson, and I

love her, and I think that's just because ,

B: That's fine. That's, that's wonderful. Integration this year is

staying, I'm sure of that. But do you think some of the people who kept

their children out in protest, do you think any of those children are

still out?

H: Yes, My daughter-in-law said that she works, no, not in Prospect

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here, no, but she said she works in, for M in that outlet, and one

""..-, VIf g go to school since it began.

B: Now, when? Since it began this year or last year? Since 1970 it


H: When it broke out then.

B: When the integration plan...

H: Yes.

B: ...went into effect in September of 1970.

H: And he was strict then.

B: And he hasn't, he hasn't sent his children back to school since?

H: -T his children since, and they had a lawsuit n =hHF, too.

But he hasn't sent them back.

B: Wonder what was the outcome of that lawsuit over his children.

H: He saidile just didn't intend "to 1 .ll a lOf-r1'

B: Oh, my. You haven't heard of any other cases like that have you?

H: No, I haven't.

B: That's just one family?

H: Just one family that I've heard of in that vicinity. But, no, in

our Prospect as t we don't have the conflicts Not

since that day we haven't had any trouble. & f

B: Seems like people sort of got it off their chest J saey n t

accepted it?

H: They, the thing like they had they accept it for the children to

go and get their education, or stay home without any education. And

then we didn't have any colored in our schools, that much. In other words

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we haven't had over, i we've had nine in our schools since it began.

I don't think we've had ear-nine in our school.

B: Up until today? ,.

H: Up until today. And that includes and the teachers,

and we don't have but one colored teacher.

B: About how many teachers are at Prospect?

H: Thirty-six.

B: Thirty-six teachers at Prospect? And one out of the thirty-six

is Black.

H: That's right.

B: About how many students do we have at Prospect?

H: A thousand and some;

B: About how many black students do we have?

H: We have about seven or eight?

B: About seven or eight?

H: Yes.

B: So integration hasn't hit Prospect very hard?

H: No, it hasn't.

B: How about white students? How do the white students tY ?

H: No, we don't have any white students.

B: You don't have any white students at all.

H: No, we don't. ,

B: In other words we have nine hundred and ninety-three Indian students,

seven black students, no white students. How about white teachers?

H: Yes, we have one white teacher.

B: One white teacher. That's, that's certainly unusual. But there was

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a lot of trouble, and a little more racial. And _ e-'eri .g i C?

H: I think, though, f I f to get, is to get, we have two

white teachers and one colored.

B: We have two whites and two...

H: And, I forgot the, a male and a female, I forgot the, because he was

doing the odd jobs at times ~~ -'' -"\' "\ ,. 'i....

B: We do have problems, don't we?

H: Yes, we sure do. But we've tried to solve them in some way, and then

some way we can't.

-B:, Yes, that's, does the spirit of rivalry, intercommunity rivalry in

l.''T?' unty, and by that I mean, do Indian communities sort of

compete with each other on a friendly basis? Prospect and Pembroke have

always, the schools and the rivalry has been pretty strong in athletics,

wouldn't you say?

H: Yes.

B: We really, when I was attending Prospect, for example, we really

thought it was a feather in our cap when we beat Pembroke, didn't we?

H: And it's the same today.

B: It hasn't changed a bit?

H: It hasn't changed any.

B: But people don't get mad with each other.

H: Oh, no, they, after the games over they shake hands and they. if they're

mad then they shake hands. But I don't think they beat 4."

B: Well, that's good. I think the spirit of competition is good for

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anybody It makes us do our best, doesn't it?

H: Yes, it does.

B: What do you see about, what do you think will happen in the future?

Do you think the, the integration situation will remain about the same?

H: I believe it will because Indians presented at Prospect hearing.

There are not many colored families that live around in here, and most

of them ge (S C Pembroke, or and

they don't really want to come to our school.

B: What would you, now what about here at Prospect, and if you wanted

to think about a white or a black family, you've lived here all your

life, where, how far away would that black family or that white family

be? Do you think, if you had to leave here and go to the nearest white

family or the nearest black family? The earliest,the nearest one would

be in Pembroke?

H: Oh, it would be in Pembroke, yes.

B: And how far is it from here to Pembroke?

H: I'd say four miles.

B: Is it more than four miles? Is it about four miles? Well, do you, how

about in the other directions? The opposite direction, what is in the

opposite direction, do you know?

U: Yes, S

B: How far would you have to go in that direction,do you think, before

you'd find a black or white family?

H: I don't think you'd have to go over, from our school, two miles.

B: About two miles.

H: That's to find a Clored.

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ct" B: How about in the other two directions?
U: s eC 4 PUabout eight to ten miles.

B: About eight or ten miles in the other direction, and in the other

direction, which would make the four directions, it would be about....

U: e
B: Eleven?

B: That would be Pembroke, wouldn't it?

U: Yt 4 Pembroke rt r miles.

B: So you would have a radius of about, well, you have, you have miles

and miles of nothing but Indian families, right?

H: That's right. Right here in Prospect community.

B: And it, they reach all the way to Pembroke, but there's, after you

get to Pembroke, then you have a sprinkling of whites and a sprinkling

of blacks.

H: That's right.

B: Excluding the 4-ie students, excluding the students on the University


H: Yes.

B: Well, that's certainly interesting. Would you say we've got over a

hundred squareimiles of, of what I think of as Indian territory@

,v1'-. \ Sl 'Q Indian, or which y&. i-s h-e-Indians right

here in A ? Of course, then on the fringe if you have, Oh, sort

of a different, different families coming in, but I'm talking about

the i k Indian.

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H: I'd say if there was all J in te-square, it would be. But in between

it would be different. But just, in just one square of nothing but In-

dains, I'd say yes.

B: It's at least a hundred square miles.

H: Yes. Daypfo.Wpe 0

B: Now what do you think our people need most ? Do you think

we have any great needs of the future?

H: Yes, I do. I think there's, there are a lot of handicaps that need

jobs,and the needy. We do have needy families that need food and

clothing. They're and they need help.

B: Do you...

H: And I think that we that work in the school,January we were supposed

to have a raise.


B: This is the interview with Mrs. Peter Hunt continued. What were you

saying when we were interrupted by the tape running out before?

H: I said, in 1973 we were supposed to have a raise in January the first.

In 1974 we was to get a raise in January the first, and we haven't re-

ceived either one.

B: Well, if you could change anything at all about RobaEsn. County, if

you had that power which none of us have, if you could change anything

at all about the county what would it be? What would you do?' tA I

H: Well, I'd change some of the commissioners, especially _

and I wouldn't change any of the teachers, and that's about it.

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B: Well, is there anything you'd like to add, like to say that we haven't


H: No.

B: You certainly have been very kind to grant us this interview. We've

enjoyed it so very much, and I want to thank you very much, and I want

to wish you the best of everything.

H: And thank you. It's been most interesting to me.

B: Thank you. I'l say bye-bye now.

H: Bye-bye.