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Interview with Tim Hunt, January 20, 1975

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Interview with Tim Hunt, January 20, 1975
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UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA


ORAL HISTORY PROJECT


INTERVIEWEE: Tim Hunt, Jr.

INTERVIEWER: Lew Barton

January 20, 1975











B: This is January 20, 1975. I am Lew Barton interviewing for the University
of Florida history department, American Indian Oral History Program.
with me this afternoon at 211 South Broadway in Baltimore, Maryland is the
young gentleman who has kindly consented to give me an interview. Would
you mind telling us what your name is sir?

H: My name is Tim Hunt Jr.

B: How old are you Tim?

H: 38.

B: Are you a family man?

H: Yes sir.

B: How many is there in your family?

H: Six.

B: Is that counting your wife and four children?

H: Yes sir.

B: What is her name?

H: Elaine.

B: How about the children. Could you give us their names and their ages?

H: My son Rossy he is thirteen, my next daughter Jill, she is ten. My other
daughter Tabby, she is seven and I have a little boy-four.

B: That is a nice family isn't it? Where were you born?

H: Lumberton, North Carolina.

B: How long have you been in Baltimore?

H: Seventeen years.

B: Is your wife from Robeson County, North Carolina too?

H: No sir she is from Narrows, Virginia.

B: I see. do you see any difference in living in the city and living in the
rural area back home?

H: Well the only thing it is a lot more traffic, that is about only thing I
can see different.

B: Do you think Indian people coming form the Robeson County area have any
difficulty in in making the adjustment between rural life and city life?



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H; No sir, I do not.

B: That is good. Are the children in school?

H: Yes sir.

B: Where do they go to school?

H: They go to School 23.

B: School 23. Are you a church man?

H: No sir, not right at the present time, no.

B: When you do go to church where do you go? South of the, is it Cross
Street Baptist Church?

H: Cross Street Baptist Church.

B: A good many of the folks go over there and I thought maybe you might go
over there for awhile.

H: Yes sir.

B: Do you the children, let's see, their, some of them are in school. Do
they have any difficulty?

H: No sir, they do not.

B: Uh. Well that is fine. No news is good news.

H: Yes.

B: I do not think the adjustment between rural life and city life is too
difficult?

H: No sir, I do not.

B: I personally like the wide open spaces but....

H: I have got so used to up here, seems like this is my home more than North
Carolina.

B: Is that right?

H: Yes sir?

B: A good many of the people talk about moving back home some day, but I sup-
pose you could make the adjustment anywhere?

H: Yes sir. There is a lot of them moving down there, but I always see them
come back.

B: They go for awhile and then come back, don't they?


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H: Yes sir, they do.

B: That is interesting. When you stay away from a place awhile perhaps you
have nostalgia about it; you have feeling that you know this is home,
wouldn't you like to go back home once more and all that?

HI: Yes sir.

B: Where do you work at?

H: At the present time I am not working. I was a, had my own business but
things are slack now and I am not working right now.

B: What business were you in?

H: Painting.

B: Painting.. I hear that a good many of the people are being laid of here
in Baltimore. Is that true?

H: Yes sir it is pretty rough.

B: Are there any car manufacturers over there?

H: Yes sir.

B: Right here in the city?

H: General Motors is here and they are one of the biggest, out on
highway.

B: Do you think that the automobile industry is being harder hit with un-
employment than the other places?

H: Well I would say they was because there is nobody got money to buy the
cars. So they got to do something with the people working there. Nobody's
not working to buy them.

B: There was some sort of new from Ford this morning in the paper, but I do
not know, I think they are going to use some of the workers some of the
time or something like that.

H: Yes sir.

B: I hope, certainly hope things get better. Do you think they are going to
get better?

H: Well they got to, something, they got to get better, cannot go on like
this

B; Course you, there are certain things perhaps that the Administration could
do. You think they will bring back jobs like they did during the depres-
sion? Do you don't remember the great depression do you?:



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H: No sir. But I had heard my mother and father talking about it.

B: And people speak of that far back as "Hard Times."

H: It is "Hard Times" right now.

B: And there was one before that, after the World War I they call that the
some like this, it was not as great a depression as came along in 1932?
There about's.

I: Yes sir.

B: What, what plans do you have for the future?

H: Well right at the present I:don.'t have done. I am.trying to get a job
with the city right now. That is about the only plans I have as far as
work is concerned.

B: Where did you go to school?

H: I went to Green Grove in North Carolina.

B: I know where Breen Grove is in Robeson County. Did you graduate from high
school?

H: No sir I went though the nineth grade.

B: Have you been a painter all your life?

H: No. I worked as electrical mechanic for about seven years and I painted,
now, been painting now for about six years I guess.

B: I see. What do you think of the Indian Center here? Do you think it is
helping?

H: I think it is a very good thing, they come up with.

B: This is sort of a rallying point isn't it?

H: Yes, Yes sir it sure is nice.

B: Do you ever come out to the dances on Thursday nights?

H: No sir, but I intend to-- Me and my kids.

B: We have alot of fun out there. Course I don't, I don't do any Indian
dances. Myself. I am going to learn.

K: Yes. Yes sir.

B: That looks like fun what is going on in the... you do not have any plans
for moving back to North Carolina later on do you?

H: No sir I do not.


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B: Do you thing Indian people have problems' because they are Indians over
here?

H: Well I do not think you have problems no where no matter what you is you
know, as long you carry yourself as an Indian, that is fine. I do not
think you have, have no problem.

B: That is good. Course sometimes people may exaggerate things a little
bit, don't you think?

K: Yes sir they do a little bit, but it does not bother me. Never has.

K: And do you always tell people you are an Indian wherever you go?

H: I sure do. Proud of it.

B: Yes, I am too. I think it is nothing to be ashamed of. It is something
to be proud of.

H: That is right.

B: Now.... How about the problem of smog in the city? Do you think, that
Baltimore is bothered much with smog?

H: Yes sir, it sure is.

B: Do you think, how about the houses projects over here? Do you think it
is taking care of a lot of housing problems that we have?

H: Yeah I do. The cities really doing a big thing now they turn them all
those old rat building and roach building and rebuilding them. I think
that is alot of help.

B: Baltimore is still a bustling city, isn't it? I mean to look at the ac-
tivity, you would not think that we are going through a depression, just
to see the action going on, would you?

H: That is right. Sure would not.

B: But we do have this thing of unemployment, I should not ask you but are
you a Republican or a Democrat? Do not answer it if you do not want to.

H: Democrat.

B: Democrat. Do you think we have got 4,000 Indians in Baltimore?

H: I would say yes.

B: I have forgotten this street you told me, you lived on.

H: I live on 3108 Fleet Street.

B: Fleet Street. A lot of their people live on Pratt Street, now don't they?



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H: Yes sir. A lot of them live on Baltimore Street tqo.

B: You know-I came over-here before World War II began. Me and a couple of
other guys: Andrew-Locklear, Olin Leviner, and at that time there were,
we were the other Indian people in this city. I worked over there at
Bethlehem Steel. Welding trainee. But our people have certainly come in
since then, have not they?

H: They sure have. They sure have.

B: How many churches are there among our people over there? At least two of
them.

H: Oh yes. Lots of them. I think there are two, something like that.

B: Well, things certainly change, don't they?

H: They sure do.

B: What do you think of our young people? Some, some people kind of, some
of the old people try to look down on the younger people, do not know
what this generation is coming to. How do you feel about our young people?

H: Well, I think they will work out, alright.

B: I do not think they are really any worse then we were when we were coming
along.

H: No sir, I do not.

B: Maybe they have got a little more money and so on.

H: That is about it.

B: I certainly believe in our young people. Their very idealistic and every-
thing. Do you think Indian children are very well mannered; usually?

H: Children is mannered on that's my opinion. That goes on his parents.
They got to teach him no matter what kind of is and you know what race it
is goes on thier parents., I would say that. Indian children is just
mannered just as much as any other children, here.

B: Do you think that the Indians are not closely knit in the community spirit
as they were back home? Are they as neighborly here as they were back
home?

H: I would say yes.

B: Might even be a little close together?

H: I would say yes.

B: Well that is good. Now our people have attendency to stay be themselves
largely, where ever they go. Wonder why this is?


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H: I do not really know.

B: You know it has been said always that we were clannish and I guess. You
think that is a fair description?

H: I would so. It sounds pretty good.

B: We do like to speak together. I guess it is comforting to have somebody
that you know understands you. If you have a need you are not afraid to
ask them for help.

H: That is right.

B: This sort of things. Well I certainly want to thank you for giving me
this interview. Is there anything you would like to pass along that.

H: No sir not at the present. I hope everything gets along good you know
and I hope the country straightens out and gets some work for people you
know and all that. That is about all I got to say.

B: Thank you so very much.

H: You are welcome sir.

B: With me.



































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UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA ORAL HISTORY PROJECT INTERVIEWEE: Tim Hunt, Jr. INTERVIEWER: Lew Barton January 20, 1975

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B: This is January 20, 1975. I am Lew Barton interviewing for the University of rlorida history department, American Indian Oral History Program. with me this afternoon at 211 South Broadway in Baltimore, Maryland is the young gentleman who haa kindly consented to give me an interview. Would you mind telling us what your name is sir? H: My name is Tim Hunt Jr. B: Itow old are you Tim? R: 38. B: Are you a family man? H: Yes sir. B: How many is there in your family? H: Six. B: Is that counting your wife and four children? H: Yes sir. B: What is her name? H: Elaine. B: How about the children. Could you give us their names and their ages? H: My son Rossy he is thirteen, my next daughter Jill, she is ten. My other daughter Tabby, she is seven and I have a little boy-four. B: That is a nice family isn't it? Where were you born? H: Lumberton, North Carolina. B: Row long have you been in Baltimore? H: Seventeen years. B: Is your wife from Robeson County, North Carolina too? H: No sir she is from Narrows, Virginia. B: I see. do you see any difference in living in the city and living in the rural area back home? H: Well the only thing it is a lot more traffic, that is about only thing I can see different. B: Do you think Indian people coming form the Robeson County area have any difficulty in in making the adjustment between rural life and city life? -1

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H: No sir, 1 do not. B: That is good. Are the children in school? H: Yes sir. B': Where do they go to school7 H: They go to School 23. B: School 23, Are you a church man? H: No sir, not right at the present time, no, B: When you do go to church where do you go? South of the, is it Cross Street Baptist Church? H: Cross Street Baptist Church. B: A good many of the folks go over there and I thought maybe you might go over there for awhile. H: Yes sir. B: Do you the children, let's see, their, some of them are in school. Do they have any difficulty? H: No sir, they do not. B: Uh. Well that is fine. No news is good news. H: Yes. B: I do not think the adjustment between rural life and city life is too difficult? H: No sir, I do not. B: I personally like the wide open spaces but H: I have got so used to up here, seems like this is my home more than North Carolina. B: Ts that right? If: Yes sir? B: A good many of the people talk about moving back home some day, but I sup pose you could make the adjustment anywhere? If: Yes sir. There is a lot of them moving down there, but I always see them come back. B: They go for awhile and then come back, don't they? -2

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H: Yea sir, they do. B: That is interesting. When you stay away from a place awhile perhaps-you have nostalgia about it; youhave feeling,that you know this is home, wouldn't you like to go hack home once more and all that? H.: Yes sir. B: Where do you work at; H.: At the present time I am not working. I was a, had my own business but things are slack now and I am not working right now. B: What business were you in? H: Painting. B: Painting •. I hear that a good many of the people are being laid of here in Baltimore. Is that true? H.: Yes sir it is pretty rough. B-: Are there any car manufacturers over there? H: Yes sir. B: Right here in the city? H: General Motors is here and they are one of the biggest, out on highway. B: Do you think that the automobile industry is being harder hit with un employment than the other places? H: Well I would say they was because there is nobody got money to buy the cars. So they got to do something with the people working there. Nobody's not working to buy them. B-: There was some sort of new from Ford this morning in the paper, but I do not know, I think they are going to use some of the workers some of the time or something like that. If: Yes sir. R: I hope, certainly hope things get better. Do you think they are going to get netter? H: Well they, got to, something, they got to get better, cannot go on like this! B; Course you, there are cetain things perhaps that the Administration could do. You think they will bring back jobs like they did during the depres sion? Do you don't remember the great depression do you?": -3

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H: No s.ir. But I had heard my mother and father talking about it. B.: And people speak of that far back as "Hard Times .. " H: It is "lfard Times" right now. B: And there was one before that, after the World War I they call that the some like this, it was not as great a depression as came along in 1932? There about's. K: Yes sir. B: What, what plans do you have for the furture? H.: Well right at the present I:don't1 have done. I am.trying to get a job with the city right now. That is about the only plans I have as far as work is concerned. B: Where did you go to school? H: I went to Green Grove in North Carolina. B: I know where Breen Grove is in Robeson County. Did you graduate from high school? H: No sir I went though the nineth grade, B: Have you been a painter all your life? H: No. I worked as electrical mechanic for about seven years and I painted, now, been painting now for about six years I guess. B: I see. What do you think of the Indian Center here? Do you think it is helping? H: I think it is a very good thing, they come up with. B: This is sort of a rallying point isn't it? H: Yes, Yes sir it sure is nice. B: Do you ever come out to the dances on Thursday nights? If: No sir, but I intend to-Me and my kids. B: We have alot of fun out there. Course I don't, I doff't do any Indian dances. Myself. I am going to learn. If: Yes. Yes sir. B.: That looks like fun what is going on in the ... you do not have any plans for moving back to North Carolina later on do you? H: No sir I do not. -4

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B: Do OU thing Indian ~eople have prohlems, because they are Indians over here? H: Well I do not think you.have problems no where no matter what you is you know, as long you carry yourself as an Indian, that is fine. I do not think you have, have no problem. B: That is good. Course sometimes people may exaggerate things a little bit, tlbn't you think? If: Yes sir they do a little bit, but it does not bother me. Never has. R: And do you always tell people you are an Indian wherever you go? H: 1 sure do. Proud of it. B: Yes, I am too. I think it is nothing to be ashamed of. It is something to be proud of. H: That is right. B: Now How about the problem of smog in the city? Do you think, that Baltimore is bothered much with smog? H: Yes sir, it sure is. B: Do you think, how about the houses projects over here? Do you think it is taking care of a lot of housing problems that we have? H: Yeah I do. The cities really doing a big thing now they turn them ali those old rat building and roach building and rebuilding them. I think that is alot of help. B: Baltimore is still a bustling city, isn't it? I mean to look at the ac tivity, you would not think that we are going through a depression, just to see the action going on, would you? H: That is right. Sure would not. B: But we do have this thing of unemployment, I should not ask you out are you a Re~ublican or a Democrat? Do not answer it if you do not want to. H: Democrat. B: Democrat. Do you think we have got 4,000 Indians in Baltimore? H: I would say yes. B: I have forgotten this street you told me, you lived on. H: I live on 3108 Fleet street. R: Fleet Street. A lot of their people live on Pratt Street, now don't they? -5

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H: Yes sir. A lot uf them live on Baltimore Street tqo, B: You know-I came over-here before World War II began. Me and a couple of other guys: Andrew-Locklear, Olin Leviner, and at that time there were, we were the other Indian people in this city. I worked over there at Bethlehem Steel, Welding trainee, But our people have certainly come in since then, have not they-? H: They sure have. They sure have. B: How many churches are there among our people over there1 At least two of them. H: Oh yes, Lots of them. I think there are two, something like that. B: Well, things certainly change, don't they? H: They sure do. B: What do you think of our young people? Some, some people kind of, some of the old people try to look down on the younger people, do not know what this generation is coming to. How do you feel about our young people? H: Well, I think they will work out, alright. B: I do not think they are really any worse then we were when we were coming along. H: No sir, I do not. B: Maybe they have got a little more money and so on, H: That is about it. B: I cetainly believe in our young people, Their very idealistic and every thing. Do you think Indian children are very well mannered; usually? H: Children is mannered on that's my opinion. That goes on his parents. They got to teach him no matter what kind of is and you know what race it is goes on thier parents.. I would say that. Indian children is just mannered just as much as any other children, here. B: Do you think that the Indians are not closely knit in the community spirit as they were back home? Are they as neighborly here as they were back home? H: I would say yes. B: Might even be a little close together? H: I would say yes. B: Well that is good. Now our people have attendency to stay be themselves largely, where ever they go. Wonder why this is? -6

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H: I dq not really know. B: You know it has Iieen said always that we were clannish and I guess. You think that is a fair description? H: I would so. It sounds pretty good. B: We do like to speak together. that you know understands you. ask them for help. H: That is right. I guess it is comforting to have somebody If you have a need you are not afraid to B: This sort of things. Well I certainly want to thank you for giving me this interview. Is there anything you would like to pass along that. H: No sir not at the present. I hope everything gets along good you know and I hope the country straightens out and gets some work for people you know and all that. That is about all I got to say. B: Thank you so very much. H: You are welcome sir. B: With me. -7