Citation
Minutes of the business meetings and hearings of the Committee on Agriculture, House of Representatives (pursuant to Committee rule IVf)

Material Information

Title:
Minutes of the business meetings and hearings of the Committee on Agriculture, House of Representatives (pursuant to Committee rule IVf)
Added title page title:
Committee print
Creator:
United States -- Congress. -- House. -- Committee on Agriculture
Place of Publication:
Washington, D.C.
Publisher:
U.S. G.P.O.
Publication Date:
Frequency:
Annual[<1987->]
Biennial[ FORMER <-1985>]
Language:
English
Physical Description:
v. : 24 cm.

Subjects

Subjects / Keywords:
Agriculture and state -- Periodicals -- United States ( lcsh )
Genre:
federal government publication ( marcgt )

Notes

Numbering Peculiarities:
Issued in parts.
General Note:
Monthly Catalog Number: gp 82006731
General Note:
Description based on: Pt. 3 [July 1-Nov. 20, 1980]
General Note:
At head of title: 97th Congress, 1st session. Committee print.
General Note:
Monthly Catalog Number: gp 2006731

Record Information

Source Institution:
University of Florida
Rights Management:
This item is a work of the U.S. federal government and not subject to copyright pursuant to 17 U.S.C. §105.
Resource Identifier:
020681546 ( ALEPH )
05250083 ( OCLC )
sn 95027609 ( LCCN )

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1st Session









MINUTES

OF TMl BUSINESS MEETINGS AND, HEARINGS

OF THB COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

(Pursuant, to Committee Rule l/f)


PART 1












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JuNE 28, 1979.-Printed for the use of the Committee on Agriculture










96th Congress I COMMITTEE PRINT
1st Session f










MINUTES

OF THE

BUSINESS MEETINGS AND HEARINGS

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

(Pursuant to Committee Rule IVf) PART 1





















JUNE 28, 1979.-Printed for the use of the Committee on Agriculture


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COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
THOMAS S. FOLEY, Washington, Chairman
E DE LA GARZA, Texas WILLIAM C. WAMPLER, Virginia
Vice Chairman Ranking Minority Member
WALTER B. JONES, North Carolina KEITH G. SEBELIUS, Kansas ED JONES, Tennessee PAUL FINDLEY, Illinois
DAWSON MATHIS, Georgia STEVEN D. SYMMS, Idaho
GEORGE E. BROWN, JR., California JAMES P. JOHNSON, Colorado DAVID R. BOWEN, Mississippi EDWARD R. MADIGAN, Illinois
CHARLES ROSE, North Carolina MARGARET M. HECKLER, Massachusetts
FREDERICK W. RICHMOND, New York JAMES M. JEFFORDS, Vermont RICHARD NOLAN, Minnesota RICHARD KELLY, Florida
JIM WEAVER, Oregon CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, Iowa
ALVIN BALDUS, Wisconsin TOM HAGEDORN, Minnesota
TOM HARKIN, Iowa E. THOMAS COLEMAN, Missouri
BERKLEY BEDELL, Iowa RON MARLENEE, Montana
GLENN ENGLISH, Oklahoma LARRY J. HOPKINS, Kentucky
FLOYD J. FITHIAN, Indiana WILLIAM M. THOMAS, California
LEON E. PANETTA, California IKE SKELTON, Missouri JERRY HUCKABY, Louisiana DAN GLICKMAN, Kansas DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii CHARLES WHITLEY, North Carolina TONY COELHO, California TOM DASCHLE, South Dakota KENT HANCE, Texas BERYL ANTHONY, JR., Arkansas CHARLES W. STENHOLM, Texas PROFESSIONAL STAFF
FOWLER C. WEST, Staff Director ROBERT M. BOR, Chief Counsel JOHN E. HOGAN, Counsel JOHN R. KRAMER, Special Counsel

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Rule IVf of the Committee on Agriculture, House of Representatives, requires that the minutes of business meetings and hearings be published on a periodic basis.
In compliance with that rule, the minutes of business meetings and hearings from February 1, 19 TM, through June 28, 1979, are contained in this committee print.
The committee rule follows:
f. Publication of Minutes.-The Chairman of the Committee, in consultation -with the Ranking .Nlinoritv -.Nlember, shall cause to be published as a Committee Print on a periodic basis (and insofar as practicable on a semiannual basis) the minutes of all business meetings and hearings of the Committee and any of its Subcommittees and such minutes shall include a record of the attendance of members, all recorded votes and the action on all amendments and motions relating to legislation.
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3ipuze of Aeprugentatibeo Committee on Agriculturt
WMabington, D.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Thursday, February 1, 1979

6W Committee Full .
Busines s
Meeting: ------------------- ----------------------Subject: Committee Organization

Bill Nos.
Full
The Fulr) Committee

met in open Session at 11: 00 o'clock, in Room _1301

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Whitley Mr. Wampler
Mr. de la Garza Mr. Coelho Mr. Sebelius
Mr. Jones (N.C.) Mr. Daschle Mr. Findley
Mr. Jones (Tenn.) Mr. Stenholm Mr. Symms
Mr. Mathis Mr. Mr. Madigan
Mr. Rose Mr. Mr.s Heckler
Mr. Richmond Mr. Mr. Kelly
Mr. Nolan Mr. Mr. Grassley
Mr. Weaver Mr. Mr. Hagedorn
Mr. Baldus Mr. Mr. Marlenee
Mr. Bedell Mr. Mr. Hopkins
Mr. Fithian Mr. Mr. Thomas
Mr. Panetta Mr. Mr.
Mr. Skelton Mr. Mr.
Mr. Huckaby Mr.
Mr. Akaka Mr.


Staffpresent:

Fowler C. West Susan Bell Al Zepp
Bob Bor Bert Pena Chris Abram
Hyde Murray Lee Musil Nick Ashmore
John Hogan Wayne Fletcher Linda Miller
John Kramer Tom Adams
Gary Norton Jerry Jorgensen
Glenda Temple Jim Swiderski
Gene Moos Joe Crapa
Jim Culver Julie Kogut
Bernie Brenner Wanda Worsham
Fred Appel Peggy Pecore
George Dunsmore Mary Ross











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Witnesses:

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Statements Filed:

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Thursday, February 1, 1979 Full Committee
Business Meeting
Committee Organization


Action Taken:

Establishment of Quorum.

Introduction of new Members of the Committee.

By a unanimous voice vote, Mr. de la Garza of Texas
elected Vice Chairman of the Committee.

Announcement of Subcommittee Chairmen and Ranking Minority
Members.

Motion of Mr. de la Garza to authorize Chairman Foley to
act for the Committee approved by unanimous voice vote.

Motion of Mr. Jones (Tenn.) to approve staff travel
vouchers approved by unanimous voice vote.

Sebelius amendment to Committee Rules concerning proxy voting not agreed to by a show of hands vote of 8 yeas17 nays.

Motion of Mr. de la Garza to approve Committee Rules for the 96th Congress agreed to by a unanimous voice vote in
the presence of a quorum.

Motion of Mr. de la Garza to enable Chairman to appoint an Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Trade approved by a unanimous
voice vote.

Motion of Mr. de la Garza to enable Chairman to appoint
an Ad Hoc Subcommittee on the Budget for reporting to the
full Committee approved by a unanimous voice vote.



Chairman Foley called the meeting to order and directed the Clerk to call the roll. The following Members responded when
their names were called:




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Thu,'rsday, February 1, 1979 Full Committee
Business Meeting
Committee Organization


1. M.de la Garza 15. Mr. Coelho
2. M.Jones (N.C.) 16. Mr. Daschle
3. M.r. Jones (Tenn.) 17. Mr. Stenholm
4. Mr. Mathis 18. Mr. Wampler
S. Mr. Richmond 19. Mr. Sebelius
6. Mr. Nolan 20. Mr. Findley
7. Mr. Weaver 21. Mr. Symmus
8. Mr. Baldus 22. Mr. Madigan
9. Mr. Bedell 23. Mr. Kelly
10. Mr. Fithian 24. Mr. Grassley
11. Mr. Panetta 25. Mr. Hopkins
12. Mr. Skelton 26. Mr. Thomas
13. Mr. Huckaby 27. Mr. Foley
14. Mr. Akaka

Twenty-seven Members having responded, a quorum was established.

Mr. Wampler, the Ranking Minority Member, was recognized to introduce the new members of the minority party--Larry J. Hopkins of Kentucky and William M. Thomas of California.

The Chairman introduced the new members of the majority-Charles Whitley of North Carolina, Tony Coelho of California, Thomas A. Daschle of South Dakota, Kent Hance of Texas, Beryl Anthony, Jr. of Arkansas, and Charles W. Stenholm of Texas.

Mr. Jones (N.C.) asked unanimous consent that Mr. de la Garza of Texas be named Vice Chairman of the Committee on Agriculture for the 96th Congress and by a unanimous voice vote the motion was agreed to.

The Chairman announced the Subcommittee Chairmen for the 96th Congress, as follows:

E de la Garza Department Investigations,
Oversight, and Research
Walter B. Jones Tobacco
Ed Jones Conservation and Credit
Dawson Mathis -Oilseeds and Rice
David R. Bowen -Cotton
Charles Rose Livestock and Grains
Frederick W. Richmond Domestic Marketing,
Consumer Relations, and Nutrition
Richard Nolan Family Farms, Rural Development,
and Special Studies
James Weaver Forests
Alvin IBaldus Dairy and Poultry









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Thursday, February 1, 1979
Full Committee Business Meeting Business Meeting
Committee Organization


Mr. Wampler announced the selection of Ranking Minority Members, as follows:

Margaret M. Heckler Cotton
James M. Jeffords Dairy and Poultry
James P. Johnson Forests
Keith G. Sebelius Livestock and Grains
Paul Findley Oilseeds and Rice
Richard Kelly Tobacco
Edward R. Madigan, III Conservation and
Credit
William C. Wampler Department Investigations,
Oversight, and Research
Steven D. Symms Domestic Marketing, Consumer
Relations, and Nutrition
Charles E. Grassley Family Farms, Rural Development, and Special Studies

Mr. de la Garza moved that the Honorable Thomas S. Foley, Chairman of the House Committee on Agriculture, in consultation with the Ranking Minority Member, be authorized to act for the Committee in matters affecting staff, administration of the Committee, and the budget. By a unanimous voice vote the motion was approved.

Chairman Foley advised that there were some travel expenses for Committee staff which needed to be approved by the full Committee since the travel took place prior to the organization of the Committee. Mr. Jones (Tenn.) moved that the travel vouchers for the Committee staff be approved, and by a unanimous voice vote the motion was agreed to.

Counsel Bor was recognized to explain the proposed amendments to the Committee Rules (Copy of rules attached together with list of Subcommittee assignments.) Discussion occurred.

Mr. Sebelius moved that the Committee Rules be amended on page 6 to prohibit proxy voting except on reporting of measures to the full Committee by a Subcommittee, and on reporting measures to the House by the full Committee. Discussion occurred and by a show of hands vote of 8 yeas-17 nays the amendment was not agreed to.

Mr. Findley asked the Chairman if he would make it a policy of the Committee, rather than writing into the rules (page 11), that the Members who arrived at a Committee or Subcommittee meeting first would be recognized first in questioning witnesses. The Chairman advised that he would consider the matter and report back to the Committee.




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Thursday, February 1, 1979
Full Committee
Business Meeting
Committee Organization


Mr. de la Garza moved that the Committee Rules, as distributed to the Members, be approved as the Committee Rules of the House Committee on Agriculture for the 96th Congress. By a unanimous voice vote the motion was agreed to in the presence of a quorum (twenty-two Members present at the time the vote was taken).

Mr. de la Garza moved that the Chairman of the Agriculture
Committee may appoint an Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Trade to consider and make recommendations on implementing legislation affecting the jurisdiction of the Committee on Agriculture proposed to implement trade agreements entered into by the President under the Trade Act of 1974; the Ad Hoc Subcommittee to consist of such number as the ChairTnan may determine after consulting with the Ways and Means Committee and the minority members to be appointed after consultation with the Ranking Minority Member.

Discussion occurred and by a unanimous voice vote the motion was approved.

Mr. de la Garza moved that the Chairman of the Agriculture Committee may appoint an Ad Hoc Committee on the Budget to consider and make recommendations to the full Committee on the appropriate level of budget outlays and budget authority to be included in the concurrent resolution on the budget on areas under the jurisdiction of the Committee on Agriculture, and the minority members to be appointed after consultation with the
Ranking Minority Member.

Discussion occurred and by a unanimous voice vote the motion was agreed to.

Mr. de la Garza moved that the meeting stand adjourned, and at 12:06 p.m. the meeting was adjourned, subject to the call of the Chair.




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RULES OF THE COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE

U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

I. GENERAL PROVISIONS

Rul1c of the U.S. House of Representatives.--The

ales of the House shall govern the procedure of the Committee so far as applicable, and the rules of the Committee shall be interpreted in accordance with the Rules of the House, except that a motion to recess from day to day is a motion of high privilege in the Committee. (See Appendix C B for the applicable Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives.)

b. Applicability to Subcommittees.--The following

rules shall apply to meetings, hearings and other activities of Call) Subcommittees, which are part of the Committee and subject to its authority and directionC. The term "Committee" shall refer as well to the term "Subcommittee" wherever it appears and the term 'Chairman" shall refer as well to Chairmen of the SL committees unless the terms of the rules themselves indicate that they are applicable only to the full Committee and, further, except in the case of the rules concerning xelar meetings (Rule 11-a), the records of meetingss and hearings which are, in the case of Subcommittees, maintained at Committee offices (Rules II-f and III-j), the citation of witnesses to the House for contempt (Rule IIIk), the broadcasting of hearings (Rule III-1), Rule IV, Rules V a-e and Rule VII: only when specifically so stated.










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II. CO HTTEE OR SUBCO"tMITTEE BUSINESS MEETINGS

a. Recular and Additional Meetings.--The Committee shall meet Ct 10 a.m.J on the first Tuesday of each month while the Congress is in session. at The Committee shall also meet at the call of the Chairman at such other times as he considers to be necessary, subject to advance notice to all Cormmittee members. Insofar as practicable, an agenda for all regular and additional Committee meetings, setting forth all the measures and matters to be considered, shall be furnished each Committee member prior to the meeting. Items may be placed on the agenda by the Chairman or a majority of the Committee. If the Chairman determines that

-he monthly Tuesday meeting is not necessary or that) any C dditiona] meeting convened by him need not be held, he shall give all members of the Committee notice to that effect as far in advance of the meeting day as practicable, and no meeting shall be held on such day. See Rule VI-e for Lprovisions which apply to meetings of Subcommittees.

b. Special Meetings.--If at least three members of

th Committee file a written request in the Committee offices that a special meeting of the Committee be called by the Chairman to consider a specific measure(s) or matter(s), the Staff Director shall immediately notify the Chairman of the filing of such request. If, within three calendar days after the filing of such request, the Chairman does not call the ruquested special meeting to be held at a time within seven calendar days after the filing of such request, a majority of the members of the Committee may file in the










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Committee offices their written notice that a special meeting will be held at a specified date and hour to consider a specified measure(s) or matter(s). If such a notice is filed, the Committee shall meet on that date and hour. Immediately upon-the filing of such a notice, the Staff Director shall notify all members of the Committee that such special meeting will be held at the specified date and hour to consider the specifiedmeasure(s) or matter(s). only the measure(s) or matter(s) so specified in the meeting notice as filed by the majority of Committee members and transmitted to all Committee members may be considered at a special meeting.

C. Vice Chairman.--The [full] Committee shall, by a

majority vote, designate one of its members as Vice Chairman who shall perform such duties as the Chairman may direct in the absence of the Chairman.

Cc) d. Presiding member.--If the Chairman is not

present at any Committee meeting, the Vice Chairman or, in his absence, the ranking member of the majority party on the Committee who is present shall preside at that meeting. If the Chairman is not present at any Subcommittee meeting, the ranking member of the majority party who is present shall preside at that meeting.
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LQJ e Committee and Subcommittee Meetings Prohibited.-The Committee or any of its Subcommittees may not sit, without special leave, while the House is reading a measure for amendment under the five-minute rule.






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e) f. ODen Business Meetings.--Each Committee or

SubcomJnittee meeting for the transaction of business, including the markup of legislation, shall be open to the public ex w hen the Committee or Subcommittee, in open session and with a majority present, determines by rollcall vote that all or part of the remainder of the meeting on that day shall be closed to the public Provided, however, That n No nersen other than members of the Committee or Subco.-mittee and such congressional staff and departmental representatives as the Committee or Subcommittee may authorize shall be pres:.t at any business or markup session which has been clsod to the public. This paragraph does not ap> l Cnritee or Subcommittee hearings or to any meetingg chat, as announced by the Chairman of the Committee or U. o-mittee, relates solely to internal budget or personnel motters.

If Records and Rolicalls.--A complete record of all Commnittee or Subcommittee action shall be kept inr the form of written minutes, including a record of the votes on any question as to which a rollcall is demanded. A -ollcall

v te hall be ordered upon demand by one-fifth -f the members present. The record of such action and the results of the rol1call votes during each session of the Co r s n sall be made available by the Committee, upon request, r public inpection during regular office hours in :le : i ee :f ]ces and upon telephone request. The in aLt.: so .a able on rollcall votes shall include a description

U. of a o.nt motion or a or her nproroi n; the

Sof eac ember voting for and each member voting aIcainst






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such amendment, motion, order or other proposition; whether such vote was by proxy or in person; and names of those members present but not voting. A stenographic record of a business meeting of the Committee or Subcommittee may be kept and may thereafter be published if the Chairman of the Committee determines there is need for such a record. The proceedings of the Committee or Subcommittee in a closed meeting (other than roilcall votes) shall not be divulged unless otherwise determined by a majority of the Committee or Subcommittee. See Rule IV-f for publication of the minutes of meetings.

IgJ h. Quorums.--A majority of the members of the [full) committee or (and each of thea) Subcommittee shall constitute a quorum of the Committee or Subcommittee for the purpose of convening meetings, conducting business, and voting on any matter: Provided, That the Chairman of the (full) committee may determine that one-third of the members of the (full) Committee shall constitute a quorum of the (full)~ Committee at any meeting for such purpose (other than for the reporting of any measure or recommendation, and voting on the authorization of subpoenas and on the closing of hearings and business meetings to the public) if he calves written notice to that effect to the members prior to the meeting. [ ,ny Committee member present at a Committee meeting may make a point of order that a quorum is not present under the conditions set forth above, but a quorum shall be deemed present unless a member objects to the

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J i. Proxy Votina.--A member may vote by prox on any
fr the Com~ittee or Subco mittee / prox~other
oraothe

Sissuance of a subpoena pursuant to Rule III-b. The rox uthorization shall be in writing, shall assert that the mber is absent on official business or is otherwise unae to be present at the Committee or Subcommittee meeting, sal sinate th member who is to execute the proxy autho i: tion and shall be limited to a specific measure or eat, an V any aendents or motions ertaining thereto. A

mc be may authorize a general proxy only for motions to recess, adjourn, or other procedural matters. Each proxy to be active shall be signed by the member assigning the vote a' shall contain the date and time of day the proxy is si-ned as well as the date or dates during which it is to be e :fecive. The proxy form required by the Cc .ittee or Subso mitee is appended to these rules as Ap:e:ndix A. In orer to be cast in a vote it shall be filed with the Committee or Subcdittee during such vote and must be placed on file with the Staff Director. Proxies shall not be counted toward a quorum.

i Location of Persons at Meetings.--No person

r th a Member of Congress or Committee or SubcoMmittee sta' ay walk in or be seated at the rostrum area of the

r Subcommittee unless the Chairman or a majority

S itt or Subcomittee determines ot herwise.

C) k. Consideration of Amendments and Met ions.--A

e:r un rn. uest, a Ie recognized by the Chairman to







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address the Committee or Subcommittee at a meeting for not more than five minutes on behalf of an amendment or- motion offered by himself or another member, or upon any other matter under consideration, unless he receives unanimous consent to extend the time limit. Every amendment, substitute amendment, amendment to an amendment, or amendment in the

nature of a substitute made in Committee or Subcomm-,ittee that is substantial as determ,-,ined by the Chairman shall, upon the demand of any member present, be reduced to writing, and a copy thereof shall be made available to all members present: Provided, That such amendment shall remain pending before the Committee or Subcommittee and may not be votZ-ed upon until the requirements of this section have been met.

1. Points of Order.--No point of order, other than a point of order that a quorum (was) is not present, against the hearing or meeting procedures of the Committee or Subcommittee shall be sustained unless it is made in a timely fashion either at the commencement of the hearing or meeting or at the time such occasion for a point of order first occurs.































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III. COMMITTEE OR SUBCOMMITTEE HEARINGS

a. Power to Hear.--For the purpose of carrying out

any of its functions and duties under House Rules X and XI, the Committee is authorized to sit and hold hearings at any time or place within the United States whether the House is in session, has recessed or has adjourned, but no Subcommittee shall hold meetings or hearings outside of the House unless permission to do so is granted by the Chairman, or a majority, of the (full) Committee..

Cc) b. Announcement of Hearings.--The Chairman of the Committee or Subcommittee shall publicly announce the date, place and subject matter of any hearing to be conducted on any measure or matter at least one week before the commencement of that hearing unless the Committee or Subcommittee determines that there is good cause to begin such hearing at an earlier date, in which case the announcement of the hearing shall be made by the Chairman of the Committee or Subcommittee at the earliest possible date. The Staff Director shall notify the Daily Digest Clerk of the Congressional Record as soon as possible after such public announcement has been made.

c. Power to Subpoena.--For the purpose of carrying out any of its functions and duties under House Rules X and XI, the Committee is authorized to require, by subpoena or otherwise, the attendance and testimony of such witnesses and the production of such books, records, correspondence, memoranda, papers, and documents as it deems necessary. A subpoena may be authorized and issued in the conduct of any investigation or series of investigations or activities by the [full] Committee or by a Subcommittee when authorized by






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a rolicall vote of the majority of the members of the Ufull) Committee, a majority being present, except that no proxies may be used to vote on the authorization and issuance of such a subpoena. Authorized subpoenas shall be signed by the Chairman or the Vice Chairman of the LfullJ committee or by any other member the [fullJ Committee may designate. Notice of a meeting to consider a motion to authorize and issue a subpoena shall be given to all members of the full Committee by 5 p.m., of the day preceding the day of such meeting. Compliance with a Committee or Subcommittee issued subpoena may be enforced only as authorized or directed by the House.





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d. Scheduling of Hearings and Witnesses.--Except as other-wise provided in this paragraph, the scheduling of hearings and witnesses and determination of the time allowed for the presentation of testimony and interrogation shall be at the discretion of the Chairman or a majority of the Committee or Subcommittee. Whenever any hearing is conducted by the Committee or Subcommittee upon any measure or matter, the Committee's or Subcommittee's minority party members shall be entitled, upon request by a majority of them to the Chairman of the Committee or Subcommittee before the completion of the hearing, to call witnesses selected by them to testify with respect to that measure or matter during at least one day of hearing.

e. Witnesses' Statements in Advance.--Each witness

who is to appear before the Committee or Subcommittee shall, insofar as practicable, file with the Staff Director a written statement of Chis) the witness' prepared testimony at least two working days in advance of his appearance in order to permit the testimony to be distributed to and reviewed in advance by Committee or Subcommittee members. Witnesses shall provide sufficient copies of their statement for distribution to Committee or Subcommittee members, staff and the news media. The Committee or Subcommittee staff shall distribute such written statements to all members of

the or Subcommittee as soon as they are received

as well as any official reports from departments and agencies on such subject matter.







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f. Testimony of Witnesses.--The Chairman of the

Committee or Subcommittee or any member designated by him may administer an oath to any witness. Each witness who has been subpoenaed, upon the completion of (his) the witness' testimony, may report in person or in writing to the Staff Director and sign appropriate vouchers for travel allowances and attendance fees. All'witnesses Cshall) may be limited in their oral presentations to brief summaries of their statements within the time allotted to them, Esubject to at the discretion of the Chairman of the Committee or Subcommittee in light of the nature of the witness and the length of time available.

g. Questioning of Witnesses.--Committee or Subcommittee members may question witnesses only when they have been recognized by the Chairman of the Committee or Subcommittee for that purpose. Each member so recognized shall be limited to questioning a witness (or panel of witnesses) for five minutes until such time as each member of the Committee or Subcommittee who so desires has had an opportunity to question the witness (or panel of witnesses) for five minutes, and, thereafter, the Chairman of the Committee or Subcommittee may limit the time of further questioning after giving due consideration to the importance of the subject matter and the length of time available. All questions put to witnesses shall be germane to the measure or matter under consideration. Unless the Chairman or a majority of the Committee or Subcommittee determines otherwise, no person shall interrogate witnesses other than members and Committee or Subcommittee staff.







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h. Open Hearings.--Each hearing conducted by the Committee or Subcommittee shall be open to the public except when the Committee or Subcommittee, in open session and with a majority present, determines by rolicall vote that all or part of the remainder of that hearing on that day shall be closed to the public because disclosure of testimony, evidence, or other matters to be considered would endanger the national security or would violate any law or rule of the House of Representatives: Provided, however, That the Committee or Subcommittee may, by the same procedure, vote to close one subsequent day of hearing. Notwithstanding the reguirements of the preceding sentence, a majority of those present, there being in attendance the requisite number required under the rules of the Committee to be present for the, purpose of taking testimony (1) T vote to close the hearing for sole purpose of discussing whether testimony or evidence to be received would endanger the national security or violate Rule I11(k) or (2) ma vote to close the hearing, as provided in Rule 111(k). In any event, no member may be excluded from nonparticipatory attendance at any hearing unless the House shall by majority

vote authorize the (full) Committee or Ca) Subcommittee, for purposes of a particular series of hearings on a particular article of legislation or on a particular subject of investigation, to Close its meetings to members by means of the above procedure.

i. Quorum.--The quorum for taking testimony and

receiving evidence shall be two members of the Committee or Subcommui t t oe.







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j. Record of Hearing.--An accurate stenographic

record shall be kept of all testimony taken at public hearings. Any public witness may, during Committee office hours in the Committee offices and within two weeks of the close of hearings, examine the transcript of his or her own testimony and make such grammatical or technical changes as will not substantially alter the nature of testimony given. Members of the Committee or Subcommittee shall receive copies of transcripts for their prompt review and correction for return to the Committee. The Chairman of the Committee may order the printing of a hearing record without the corrections of any member or witness if he determines that such member or witness has been afforded a reasonable time in which to make such corrections and further delay would seriously impede the consideration of the legislative action which is the subject of the hearing. The record of a hearing closes

(withirO ten calendar days Cqf3 af ter the last oral testimony, unless the Chairman of the Committee or Subcommittee otherwise determines. Any person requesting to file a statement for the record of a hearing must so request before the hearing concludes and must file the statement before the record closes. No written statement becomes part of the record and thus publicly available until such time as it has been approved by the Chairman of the Committee or any Committee staff he designates, and the Chairman of the Committee or Subcommittee or his designee may reject any statement in light of its length or its tendency to defame, degrade, or incriminate any person.






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k. Investigative Hearings.--The Chairman of the

C c :ite e or Subcom~mittee at an investigative hearing shall

announce in an opening state
(1) receive such evidence or testimony in executive session;

(2) afford such person an opportunity voluntarily to appear as a witness; and

(3) receive and dispose of requests from such person to subpoena additional witnesses. Whenever it is asserted that the evidence or testimony at an investigatory hearing ma tend to defame, degrade, or incriminate any erson-(1) such testimon' or evidence shall be pre entud in executive session, notwithstanding the provisions of Rule IlI(h), if bv a j1rit of those pesent, there bein in attenmancei the reoui site number required u nder the rules of






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the Committee to be- present for the purpose of taking testimony, the Committee or Subcommittee determines that such evidence or testimony may tend to defame, degrade, or incriminate person;

(2) the Committee or Subcommittee shall proceed to

receive such testimony in open session only if a majority of the members of the Committee or Subcommittee, a majority being present, determine that such evidence or testimony will not tend to defame, de grade, or incriminate any person. In either case the Committee or Subcommittee shall afford

such person an opportunity voluntarily Lo appear as a witness; and the Committee or Subcommittee shall receive and the Committee shall dispose of requests from such person to subpoena additional witnesses.

Except as provided herein, the Chairman shall receive and the Committee shall dispose of requests to subpoena additional witnesses. No evidence or testimony taken in executive session may be released or used in public sessions without the consent of the Committee or Subcommittee. In the discretion of the Committee or Subcommittee, witnesses may submit brief and pertinent sworn statements in writing for inclusion in the record. The Committee or Subcommittee is the sole judge of the pertinency of testimony and evidence adduced at its hearings. A witness may obtain a transcript copy of his testimony given at a public session or, if given at an executive session, when authorized by the Committee or Subcommittee.






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1. Broadcasting and Photography.--LPelevision and

radio broadcasting and still photography of all or part of any Committee hearing or meeting shall be permitted only when the Committee by a majority vote agrees to such broadcasting and/or still photography. All news media shall be permitted to attend public hearings. Unless a majority of the Committee grants permission, no person, including representatives of the news media or official reporters, shall use photographic or electronic devices to record the conduct of any hearing or meeting.J Television, film making, live radio broadcasting and still photography of all or part of any Committee hearing or meeing shall be permited only when the Committee ay majority vote agreed or, if the Committee cannot be polled in a timely manner, when approved by the Chairman of the Committee after consultation with the Rann Miort

Member. Except as otherwise determined Iyj the Committee, television, film making, live radio broadcasting and still photography of all or part of any Subcommittee hearng or meeting shall be permitted only when the Subcommittee yj a majority vote agrees or, if the Subcommittee cannot be polled in a timely manner, when approved y the Chairman of the Committee or the Chairman of the Subcommittee after consultation with the Ranking Minority Member of the Committee or Subcommittee. Ani~y broadcasting, electronic recording, film making, and/or still photography of all or part of a hearing or meeting shall be subject to the provisions of House Rule XI-3(f) which appear in Appendix B. a[n the event that the Committee votes to permit broadcasting and/or






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still photography of all or part of a hearing or meeting, the following conditions shall apply:

(1) If the television or radio coverage of the hearing or meeting is to be presented to the public as live coverage, that coverage shall be conducted and presented without commercial sponsorship.

(2) No witness served with a subpoena by the Committee shall be required against his or her will to be photographed at any hearing or to give evidence or testimony while the broadcasting of that hearing, by radio or television, is being conducted. At the request of any such witness who does not wish to be subjected to radio or television, or still photography coverage, all lenses shall be covered and all microphones used for coverage turned off. This subparagraph is supplementary to clause 2(k)(5) of House Rule XI, relating to the protection of the rights of witnesses.

(3) Not more than four television cameras, operating from fixed positions, shall be permitted in a hearing or meeting room. The allocation among the television media of the positions of the number of television cameras permitted in a hearing or meeting room shall be in accordance with fair and equitable procedures devised by the Executive Committee of the Radio and Television Correspondents' Galleries.

(4) Television cameras shall be placed so as not to obstruct in any way the space between any witness giving evidence or testimony and any member of the Committee or the visibility of that witness and a member to each other.

(5) Television cameras shall not be placed in positions which obstruct unnecessarily the coverage of the hearing or meeting by the other media.





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(6) Equipment necessary for coverage by the television

and radio media shall not be installed in, or removed from, the hearing room while the Committee is in session.

(7) Floorlights, spotlights, strobelights, and flashguns shall not be used in providing any method of coverage of the hearing or meeting, except that the television media may install additional lighting in the hearing or meeting room, without cost to the Government, in order to raise the ambient lighting level in the hearing or meeting room to the lowest level necessary to provide adequate television coverage of the hearing or meeting at the then current state of the art of television coverage.

(8) Not more than five press photographers shall be

permitted to cover a hearing or meeting by still photography. In the selection of these photographers, preference shall be given to photographers from Associated Press Photos and United Press International Newspictures. If request is made by more than five of the media for coverage of the hearing or meeting by still photography, that coverage shall be made on the basis of a fair and equitable, pool arrangement devised by the Standing Committee of Press Photographers.

(9) Photographers shall not position themselves, at

any time during the course of the hearing or meeting, between the witness table and the members of the Committee.

(10) Photographers shall not place themselves in positions which obstruct unnecessarily the coverage of the hearing or meeting by the other media.

(11) Personnel providing coverage by the television and radio media shall be then currently accredited to the Radio






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and Television Correspondents' Galleries.

(12) Personnel providing coverage by still photography

shall be then currently accredited to the Press Photographers' Gallery.

(13) Personnel providing coverage by the television and radio media and by still photography shall conduct themselves and their coverage activities in an orderly and unobtrusive manner:.)






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IV. THE REPORTING OF BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS

a. Filing of Reports.--The Chairman shall report or cause to be reported promptly to the House any bill or resolution approved by the Committee and shall take or cause to be taken all necessary steps to bring said bill or resolution to a vote. A Committee report on any bill or resolution approved by the Committee shall be filed within seven calendar days (not counting days on which the House is not in session) after the day on which there has been filed with the Staff Director of the Committee a written request, signed by a majority of the Committee, for the reporting of that bill or resolution. The Staff Director of the Committee shall notify the Chairman immediately when such a request is filed.

b. Content of Reports.--Each Committee report on any bill or resolution approved by the Committee shall include as separately identified sections:

(1) a statement of the intent or purpose of the bill or resolution;

(2) a statement describing the need for such bill or resolution;

(3) the results of the rollcall vote on the motion to report such bill or resolution, including the total number of votes cast for and total number of votes cast against said reporting;

(4) the detailed statement described in section 308(a) of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 if the bill or resolution provides new budget authority (other than continuing appropriations) or new or increased tax expenditures;







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(5) the estimate of costs and comparison of such

estimates, if any, prepared by the Director of the Congressional Budget Office in connection with such bill or resolution pursuant to section 403 of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 and submitted in timely fashion to the Committee;

(6) any oversight findings and recommendations made by the Committee or the Committee on Government Operations or both to the extent such were available during the Committee's deliberations on the bill or resolution;

(7) a detailed analytical statement as to whether the enactment of such bill or joint resolution into law may have an inflationary impact on prices and costs in the operation of the national economy;

(8) an estimate of the costs which would be incurred in carrying out such bill or joint resolution in the fiscal
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year in wh ch it is reported and for its authorized duration for each of the five fiscal years following the fiscal year of reporting, whichever period is less, together with a comparison of these estimates with those made and submitted to the Committee by any Government agency.

(9) the changes in existing law (if any) shown in accordance with Rule XIII, clause 3, of the House Rules;

(10) the determination required pursuant to section 5(a) of Public Law 92-463, if the legislation reported establishes or authorizes the establishment of an advisory committee; and

(11) such other matter as the Chairman of the Committee determines to be useful for public understanding of the intent and effect of the bill or resolution.






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C. Su plemental-, Minority., or Additional Views.--if, at the time of approval of any measure or matter by the Co=ittee, any member of the Committee gives notice of intention to file supplemental, minority, or additional views, that member shall be entitled to not less than three calendar days (excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and legal holidays) in which to file such views, in writing and signed by that member, with the Staff Director of the Committee. All such views so filed by one or more members of the Committee shall be included within, and shall be a part of, the report filed by the Committee with respect to that measure or matter. The report of the Committee upon that measure or matter shall be printed in a single volume which shall:

(1) include all supplemental, minority, or additional views which have been submitted by the time of the filing of the report; and

(2) bear upon its cover a recital that any such supplemental, minority, or additional views (and any material submitted under subdivisions (C) and (D) of paragraph (1)(3) of House Rule XI, clause 2) are included as part of the report.

This shall not preclude the immediate filing or printing

of a Committee report unless timely request for the opportunity to file supplemental, minority, or additional views has been

as provided by this subparagraph or the filing by the

Cc:- ,-.ittee of any supplemental report upon any bill or resolution which may be required for the correction of any technical error in a previous report made by the Committee upon that bill or resolution.







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d. Availability of Hearings.--If hearings have been

held on any reported bill or resolution, the Committee shall make every reasonable effort to have such hearings printed and available for distribution to the members of the House prior to the consideration of such bill or resolution by the House [except for any executive decision, determination, or action which would become, or continue to be effective unless disapproved or otherwise invalidated by one or both Houses of Congress].

e. Committee Prints.--All Committee or Subcommittee prints or other Committee or Subcommittee documents, other than reports or prints of bills, that are prepared for public distribution shall be approved by the Chairman of the fulll Committee or the full) Committee prior to public distribution.

f. Publication of Minutes.--The Chairman of the

tEfull) Committee, in consultation with the Ranking Minority Member, shall cause to be published as a Committee Print on a periodic basis (and insofar as practicable on a Cuarterly semiannual basis) the minutes of all business meetings and hearings of the Committee and any of its Subcommittees and such minutes shall include a record of the attendance of members, all recorded votes and the action on all amendments and motions relating to legislation.






















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V. OTHER COMMITTEE A-CTIVITIES

a. Annual 5j Propriations.--The Committee shall, in its consideration of all bills and joint resolutions of a public character within its jurisdiction, insure that appropriations for continuing programs and activities of the Federal Government and the District of Columbia government will be made annually to the maximum extent feasible and consistent with the nature, requirements, and objectives of the programs and activities involved. (For the purposes of this paragraph a Government agency includes the organizational units of government listed in clause (d) of Rule XIII of the House Rules.J The Committee shall reivew, from time to time, each continuing program within its jurisdictions for which appropriations ar not made annually in order to ascertain whether such program could be modified so that approprations therefor would b~e made annually.

b Budget Act Coinpliance: March 15 (See Appendix [D) C).--The Committee shall, on or before March 15 of each year, submit to Lhe Committee on the Budget (1) its views and estimates with respect to all. matters to be set forth in the concurrent resolution on the budget for the ensuing fiscal year which are within its jurisdiction or functions, and (2) an estimate of the total amounts of new budget authority, arnd budget outlays resulting therefrom, to be przovided or authorized in all bills and resolutions within its jurisdiction which it intends to be effective during that fiscal year.






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C. Budget Act Compliance: Subdivision of Allocations

(See Appendix [D) C) .--As soon as practicable after a concurrent resolution on the budget for any fiscal year is agreed to, the Committee (after consulting with the appropriate committee or committees of the Senate) shall subdivide any allocations made to it in the joint explanatory statement accompanying the conference report on such resolutions, and promptly report such subdivisions to the House, in the manner provided by section 302 of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974.

d. Budget Act Compliance: Recommended Changes (See Appendix CD3 C) .--Whenever the Committee is directed in a concurrent resolution on the budget to determine and recommend changes in laws, bills, or resolutions under the reconciliation process, it shall promptly make such determination and recommendations, and report a reconciliation bill or resolution (or both) to the House or submit such recommendations to the Committee on the Budget, in accordance with the Congressional Budget Act of 1974.






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e. Conference Committees.--Whenever in the legislative process it becomes necessary to appoint conferees, the Chairman shall determine the number of conferees he deems most suitable and then recommend to the Speaker as conferees, in keeping with the number to be chosen, the names of those members of the Committee who were primarily responsible for the legislation and, to the fullest extent feasible, those members of the Committee who were the principal proponents of the major provisions of'the bill as it passed the House and such other Committee members of the majority party as the Chairman may designate in consultation with the members of the majority party. Such recommendations shall provide a ratio of majority party members to minority party members no less favorable to the majority party than the ratio of majority members to minority party members on the Committee. In making recommendations of minority party members as conferees, the Chairman shall consult with the Ranking Minority Member of the Committee.

f. Committee Records.--All Committee or Subcommittee hearings, records, data, charts, and files (for the 95th Congress) shall be kept separate and distinct from the congressional office records of the member serving as Chairman, and such records shall be the property of the House with all members of the House having access thereto. The Staff Director shall promptly notify the Chairman and Ranking Minority Member of any request for access to such records.






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VI. SUBCOMMITTEES



a. Number and Composition.--There shall be such

Subcommittees as specified in clause b of this rule each of which shall be composed of the number of members set forth in such clause, excluding ex officio members. The Chairman may create additional subcommittees of an ad hoc nature as he determines to be appropriate.

b. Jurisdiction.--The Subcommittees shall have the following general jurisdiction and number of members:

Commodity Subcommittees

Cotton (~eight seven members, six) five majority and two

minority).--Cotton matters generally.

Dairy and Poultry (Celeven) twelve members, eight majority and

Cthreej four minority).--Dairy, poultry, and bees.

Forests (Celeven) seven members, eight five majority and (hree)

two minority).--Forestry generally.

Livestock and Grains (Eseventeen eighteen members, twelve

majority and ive] six minority).--Livestock, wheat,

feedgrains generally.

Oilseeds and Rice (eleven seven members, eighJ five majority and

(three two minority).--Peanuts, soybeans, oilseeds and

rice generally.

Tobacco (Ceight) seven members, Csixj five majority and two

minority).--Tobacco generally.






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Operational Subcommittees

Conservation and Credit (Eseventeen eighteen members, twelve

majority and [ive] six minority).--Soil and water conservation

small watershed program, commodity futures, agricultural

credit generally.

Domestic Marketing, Consumer Relations, and Nutrition (eleven)

nine members, Cight) six majority and three minority).-Marketing orders, domestic marketing, food stamps, nutrition,

and consumer programs generally.

Department Investigations, Oversight and Research (Vourteen ten

members, Cen) seven majority and [our) three minority).-Foreign agricultural programs (other than Public Law 83-480),

agency review and analysis generally, research and

pesticides.

Fa'il, Farms, Rural Development and Special Studies ( ourteenI twelve

members, ter eight majority and four minority).-Family farming, rural development generally, rural housing

and special studies.






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c. Referral of Legislation.--In the case of any

measure or matter not specifically described above, or which includes the jurisdiction of two or more Subcommittees, the Chairman may, unless the Committee by a majority vote decides otherwise, refer such measure or matter simultaneously to two or more Subcommittees for concurrent consideration or for consideration in sequence (subject to appropriate time limitations in the case of any Subcommittee), or divide the matter into two or more parts reflecting different subjects and jurisdiction and refer each part to a different Subcommittee, or refer the matter to an ad hoc Subcommittee appointed by him for the specific purpose of considering that matter and reporting to the Committee thereon, or make such other provisions as may be considered appropriate. The Chairman, with the approval of a majority of the Committee, shall have authority to discharge a Subcommittee from further consideration of any bill, resolution, or other matter referred thereto and have such bill, resolution, or other matter considered by the Committee. All legislation and other matters referred to the Committee shall be referred to the Subcommittee of appropriate jurisdiction within two weeks unless, by majority vote of the members of the (full] Committee, consideration is to be by the CfullJ Committee.

d. Service on Subcommittees.--The Chairman and the

Ranking Minority Member shall serve as ex officio members of all Subcommittees and shall have the right to vote on all matters before such Subcommittees, but shall not be counted





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for the purpose of establishing a quorum. Any member of the Lfull) Committee may have the privilege of sitting with any Subcommittee during its hearings or deliberations and participate therein, but shall not have authority to vote on any matter, nor be counted present for the purpose of a quorum for any Subcommittee action, nor, except as the Subcommittee Chairman or a majority of the Subcommittee may permit, participate in questioning of witnesses under the five-minute rule, nor raise points of order unless such member is a member of such Subcommittee.

e. Subcommittee Hearings and Meetings.--Each Subcommittee is authorized to meet, hold hearings, receive evidence, and report to the Committee on all matters referred to it or under its jurisdiction. Subcommittee Chairmen shall set dates for hearings and meetings of their Subcommittees, after consultation with the Chairman of the Committee and one another, with a view toward avoiding simultaneous scheduling of Committee and Subcommittee meetings or hearings whenever possible. Notice of all such meetings shall be given to the Chairman and the Ranking Minority Member of the (fulD Committee by the Staff Director. The provisions of Rule II regarding notice and agenda of Committee meetings and of Rule IIb regarding special meetings shall apply as well to Subcommittee meetings.







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f. Subcommittee Action.--Any bill, resolution, recommencdLion or other matter ordered reported to the Committee by a Subcommittee shall be promptly reported by the Subcommittee Chairman or any Subcommittee member authorized to do so by the Subcommittee. Upon receipt of such report, the Staff Director shall promptly advise all members of the Committee of the Subcommittee action. The Committee shall not consider any matters reported by Subcommittees until two calendar days have elapsed from the date of reporting, unless the Chairman or a majority of the Committee determines otherwise.

g. Subcommittee Investigations.--Except for the

Subcommittee on Department Investigations, Oversight and Research, no investigation shall be initiated by a Subcommittee without the approval of the Chairman of the [full) Committee or a majority of the (full) Committee.

VII. COMMITTEE BUDGET, STAFF, AND TRAVEL

a. Committee Budget.--The Chairman shall, for each

session of the Congress, prepare a budget providing amounts for staff personnel, necessary travel, investigation, and other expenses of the Committee.

b. Committee Staff.--The staff of the Committee shall perform such duties as are authorized by law and shall be under the general supervision and direction of the Chairman. Staff assigned to each Subcommittee shall perform such duties as are authorized by law and shall be under the general supervision and direction of the Chairman of the Committee and the Chairman of the Subcommittee. Committee members seeking assistance from the staff shall make their requests through






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the Chairman or Ranking Minority Member. The Chairman shall insure that each Subcommittee is adequately funded and staffed to discharged its responsibilities.

C. Committee Travel.--Funds authorized for the

Committee under clause 5 of House Rule XI are for expenses incurred in the Committee's activities within the United States; however, local currencies owned by the United States shall be made available to the'Committee and its employees engaged in carrying out their official duties outside the United States, its territories or possessions. No appropriated funds shall be expended for the purpose of defraying expenses of members of the Committee or its employees in any country where local currencies are available for this purpose; and the following conditions shall apply with respect to their use of such currencies:

(1) No member or employee of the Committee shall

receive or expend local currencies for subsistence in any country at a rate in excess of the maximum per them rate set forth in applicable Federal law; and

(2) Each member or employee of the Committee shall make an itemized report to the Chairman within 60 days following the completion of travel showing the dates each country was visited, the amount of per them furnished, the cost of transportation furnished, any funds expended for any other official purpose, and shall summarize in these categories the total foreign currencies and/or appropriated funds expended. All such individual reports shall be filed by the Chairman with the Committee on House Administration and shall be open to public inspection.







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VIII. AMENDMENT OF RULES

These rules may be modified, amended, or repealed, by a majority vote of the tfullj) Committee, provided that two legislative days written notice of the proposed change has been provided each member of the tE u113 Committee prior to the meeting date on which such changes are to be discussed and voted upon.






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N 3)ousc of 3rpresrntatibrZ
Committee on 2gritulturt

Wlagbinglon, ].C. 20515 SUBCOYIITTEE ASSIGNIhENTS FOR 96th CONGRESS

COmiNODITY SUBCOMMITTEES

COTTON
(Ratio 5-2)

David R. Bowen, Mdississippi, Chairman

Tony Coelho, California Margaret M. Heckler, ilassachuse:ts
Ed Jones, Tennessee William M. Thomas, California
Kent Hance, Texas Charles W. Stenholm, Texas DAIRY AND POULTRY
(Ratio 8-4)

Alvin Baldus, Wisconsin, Chairman

Charles Rose, North Carolina James M. Jeffords, Vermont
Daniel K. Akaka, Hawaii Richard Kelly, Florida
Tony Coelho, California Tom Hagedorn, iinnesota
Walter B. Jones, North Carolina Larry J. Hopkins, Kentucky Charles Whitley, North Carolina Beryl Anthony, Jr., Arkansas Charles W. Stenholm, Texas

FORESTS
(Ratio 5-2)

James Weaver, Oregon, Chairman

Beryl Anthony, Jr., Arkansas James P. Johnson, Colorado
Jerry Huckaby, Louisiana Steven D. Symms, Idaho
Tony Coelho, California Richard Nolan, Minnesota

LIVESTOCK AND GRAINS
(Ratio 12-6)

Charles Rose, North Carolina, Chairman

Berkley Bedell, Iowa Keith G. Sebelius, Kansas
Glenn English, Oklahoma James P. Johnson, Colorado
Thomas A. Daschle, South Dakota Tom Hagedorn, ilinnesota Charles W. Stenholm, Texas E. Thomas Coleman, Missouri
E de la Garza, Texas Steven D. Symms, Idaho
Floyd J. Fithian, Indiana Ron Marlenee, Montana
Ike Skelton, Missouri Ed Jones, Tennessee Richard Nolan, Minnesota Alvin Baldus, Wisconsin Kent Hance, Texas

OILSEEDS AND RICE
(Ratio 5-2)

Dawson Mathis, Georgia, Chairman

Walter B. Jones, North Carolina Paul Findley, Illinois David R. Bowen, Mississippi William M. Thomas, California
Charles Whitley, North Carolina Charles W. Stenholm, Texas







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TOBACCO
(Ratio 5-2)

Walter B. Jones, North Carolina, Chairman

Charles Whitley, North Carolina Richard Kelly, Florida Dawson Mathis, Georgia Larry J. Hopkins, Kentucky
Charles Rose, North Carolina Alvin Baldus, Wisconsin

OPERATIONAL SUBCOPLMITTEES

CONSERVATION AND CREDIT
(Ratio 12-6)

Ed Jones, Tennessee, Chairman

Tom Harkin, Iowa Edward R. Madigan, III, Illinois
Jerry Huckaby, Louisiana James M. Jeffords, Vermont
Dan Glickman, Kansas Richard Kelly, Florida
Kent Hance, Texas E. Thomas Coleman, Missouri
George E. Brown, Jr., California Ron Marlenee, Montana Frederick W. Richmond, New York Larry J. Hopkins, Kentucky James Weaver, Oregon Alvin Baldus, Wisconsin Berkley Bedell, Iowa Glenn English, Oklahoma Leon E. Panetta, California

DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATIONS, OVERSIGHT, AND RESEARCH
(Ratio 7-3)

E de la Garza, Texas, Chairman

George E. Brown, Jr., California William C. Wampler, Virginia Floyd J. Fithian, Indiana Margaret M. Heckler, Massachuset:s
Ike Skelton, Missouri Charles E. Grassley, Iowa
Dan Glickman, Kansas Glenn English, Oklahoma Thomas A. Daschle, South Dakota

DOMESTIC MARKETING, CONSUMER RELATIONS, AND NUTRITION
(Ratio 6-3)

Frederick W. Richmond, New York, Chairman

Leon E. Panetta, California Steven D. Symms, Idaho
Richard Nolan, Minnesota Margaret M. Heckler, ?-;assachusetts
Dan Glickman, Kansas Charles E. Grassley, Iowa
Daniel K. Akaka, Hawaii Tom Harkin, Iowa

FAMILY FARMS, RURAL DEVELOPMENT, AND SPECIAL STUDIES
(Ratio 8-4)

Richard Nolan, Minnesota, Chairman

Daniel K. Akaka, Hawaii Charles E. Grassley, Iowa
Tom Harkin, Iowa Keith G. Sebelius, Kansas
Thomas A. Daschle, South Dakota E. Thomas Coleman, Missouri Beryl Anthony, Jr., Arkansas William h. Thomas, California
Frederick W. Richmond, New York Berkley Bedell, Iowa Leon E. Panetta, California


NOTE: Thomas S. Foley, Chairman, and William C. Wampler, Ranking Minority Miember, ex officio members of all Subcommittees.






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0.0. bouse of Representatibes
Comintte on igrikulture
Wladington, i.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Wednsday, February 7. 1979

( 6) Committee ...ull
Meeting. Public Hearing
Meeting: ~ Tbi
Subject: State of Agriculture -- Discussion by Secretary Bergland
Bill Nos.. .

The Full _Sab) Committee

met in open Session at 10 : 00 o'clock, in Room I100

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Whitley Mr. Wampler
Mr. Jones (N.C.) Mr. Coelho Mr. Sebelius
Mr. Jones (Tenn.) Mr. Daschle Mr. Findley
Mr. Mathis Mr. Hance Mr. Symms
Mr. Richmond Mr. Anthony Mr. Jeffords
Mr. Nolan Mr. Stenholm Mr. Kelly
Mr. Weaver Mr. Mr. Grassley
Mr. Baldus Mr. Mr. Hagedorn
Mr. Bedell Mr. Mr. Coleman
Mr. English Mr. Mr. Marlenee
Mr. Fithian Mr. Mr. Hopkins
Mr. Panetta Mr. Mr. Thomas
Mr. Skelton Mr. Mr.
Mr. Huckaby Mr. Mr.
Mr. Glickman Mr.
Mr. Akaka Mr.


Staff present:

Fowler C. West Jerry Jorgensen Jerry Welcome
Bob Bor Wayne Fletcher Ann Cole
John Hogan Mary Jarratt Mary Ross
Tony Imhof Lee Musil Tom Adams
John Kramer Al Zepp Jim Culver
Gary Norton Bert Pena Carol Dubard
Glenda Temple Joe Crapa Dolores Meadows
Gene Moos Bob Cashdollar Jim Tippett
Bernie Brenner Leighton Lang Rita DiSimone
Susan Bell Linda Miller Paul Theis
George Dunsmore Steve Eure Jim Swiderski
Steve Adams







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Witnesses:


The Honorable Bob Bergland, Secretary of Agriculture, U.S.
Department of Agriculture, Washington, D.C.

Acc. by: Howard W. Hjort, Director of Economics, Policy Analysis, and Budget
Carol Tucker Foreman, Assistant Secretary for Food and
Consumer Services
Jim Williams, Deputy Secretary Designee





























Statements Filed:


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Wednesday, February 7, 1979 Full Committee
Public Hearing
State of Agriculture--Discussion by Secretary Bergland


Chairman Foley called the meeting to order. He announced that the Committee will hold five days of public hearings, beginning Tuesday, February 13, at 10:00 a.m., to review the operations of existing government farm programs and proposals for improving them.

Secretary Bergland was recognized for his prepared statement on the current agricultural situation. Following presentation of his testimony, the Secretary was questioned by the members of the Committee.

At 1:30 p.m. the meeting was adjourned by Acting Chairman de la Garza to reconvene on February 13 to hear Members of Congress discuss the current agricultural situation.





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.6. ,ouse of Representattte
(Committee on %griculture
iabington, D.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Tuesday, February 13, 1979

S*ab Committee __F.uJll.-Meeting: Public Hear ingSubject: Current Agricultural Situation

Bill Nos. -The Full 8b) Committee

met in open Session at 1.:0l._0 o'clock, in Room _130 1

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Wampler Mr.
Mr. de la Garza Mr. Sebelius Mr.
Mr. Jones (Tenn.) Mr. Grassley Mr.
Mr. Mathis Mr. Coleman Mr.
Mr. Harkin Mr. Mr.
Mr. Bedell Mr. Mr.
Mr. English Mr. Mr.
Mr. Skelton Mr. Mr.
Mr. Huckaby Mr. Mr.
Mr. Daschle Mr. Mr.
Mr. Hance Mr. Mr.
Mr. Anthony Mr. Mr.
Mr. Stenholm Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

Fowler C. West John Waits
Bob Bor Joe Crapa
John Hogan Al Zepp
Tony Imhof Lee Musil
Gary Norton Jerry Jorgensen
Glenda Temple Wayne Fletcher
Bernie Brenner Steve Adams
Jim Culver Tom Adams
Bob Cashdollar Carol Forbes


















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Witnesses:

1. Hon. Bill D. Burlison, Member of Congress from Missouri.

2. Hon. Jack Hightower, Member of Congress from Texas.

3. Hon. Marvin Leath, Member of Congress from Texas.

4. Hon. E. Thomas Coleman, Member of Congress from Missouri.

5. Hon. Berkley Bedell, Member of Congress from Iowa.

6. Hon. Donald Joseph Albosta, Member of Congress from Michigan.

7. Hon. Peter Peyser, Member of Congress from New York.

8. Hon. Tom Daschle, Member of Congress from South Dakota.

9. Hon. Charles Grassley, Member of Congress from Iowa.





















Statements Filed:

1. Hon. Alvin Baldus, Member of Congress from Wisconsin.






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Tuesday, February 13, 1979 Full Committee
Public Hearing
Current Agricultural Situation



Chairman Foley called the meeting to order for the purpose of receiving testimony on the current agricultural situation. The witnesses listed on page 2 of these minutes were recognized for their prepared statements. Following presentation of their testimony, the witnesses were questioned by the Members of the Committee.

At 11:45 a.m. the meeting was adjourned to reconvene at 10:00 a.m. on Wednesday, February 14, to hear representatives of the American Agricultural Movement.




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.9[. ouse of lepre!entatibes Conmittre on 1grituIturt
lasbington, D.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Wednesday, February 14, 1979

SM Committee Full

Meeting Public Hearing
Meeting:----Subject: Current Agricultural Situation

BillNos. .... _. .

The ---Fu :y ) Committee

met in --- -..... Session at --40- o'clock, in Room --1 3 E 1

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Anthony Mr. Wampler
Mr. de la Garza Mr. Stenholm Mr. Sebelius
Mr. Jones (N.C.) Mr. Mr Findley
Mr. Jones (Tenn.) Mr. Mr. Symms
Mr. Mathis Mr. Mr. Johnson
Mr. Richmond Mr. Mr. Madigan
Mr. Nolan Mr. Mr.s Heckler
Mr. Baldus Mr. Mr Grassley
Mr Harkin Mr. Mr. Hagedorn
Mr. Bedell Mr. Mr. Coleman
Mr. English Mr. Mr. Hopkins
Mr. Skelton Mr. Mr.
Mr Huckaby Mr. Mr.
Mr Glickman Mr. Mr.
Mr. Daschle Mr.
Mr. Hance Mr.


Staff present:

Fowler C. West Wayne Fletcher
Bob Bor John Waits
Tony Imhof Leighton Lang
Gary Norton Mary Ross
Glenda Temple Bert Pena
John Hogan Al Zepp
Carol Forbes Carol Dubard
Jerry Jorgensen Mary Ross







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Witnesses:

American Agriculture Movement

1. Panel:
Jerome Friemel, Hereford, Texas
Bud Bitner, Walsh, Colorado
Gene Schro Campo, Colorado

2. Panel: Equal Rights and Young People in Agriculture
Albert Datcher, Alabama Harry Mitchell, Georgia
Tommy Fulford, Georgia Lynmore James, Georgia

3. Panel: Inflationary Impact
Linda Vowels, Idaho Maude Vowels, Idaho
Joyce Robinson, Montana Ed Osborne, California
George Camili, Jr., Oklahoma
Eric Hall, California
4. Panel: Cost-Price Squeeze
Nathan Wilson, Indiana Wayne Hefley, Indiana
Jerry Legg, Oklahoma
Keith Goldman, Indiana

5. Panel: Soil Conservation
Charlie Guthrie, Illinois

6. Panel: USDA Budget Exposure
Larry Wright, Nebraska Stan DeBoer, Nebraska




Statements Filed:

1. Mr. Lyman Knapp, Bladkwell, Oklahoma

2. Mr. Arim Leising, Arapahoe, Nebraska

3. Mr. David Wahl, Genesee, Idaho







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Wednesday, February 14,.1979 Full Committee
Public Hearing
Current Agricultural -Situation


Chairman Foley called the meeting to order and recognized the witnesses listed on page 2 of these minutes for their prepared testimony on the current agricultural situation. Following presentation of their statements, the witnesses were questioned by the Members of the Committee.

At 12:40 a.m. the meeting was adjourned to reconvene at 10:00 a.m. on Thursday, February 15, to hear additional witnesses from the American Agricultural Movement.




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W.. ouze of Aepreentatibes Committee on Ogritulturt
Wajington, D.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Thursday, February 15. 1979

(Mib) Committee Full
Meeting: Public Hearing

Subject: Current Agricultural Situation

Bill Nos.

The Full Committee
open 10:00 1301
met in ---oSession at 10:00 o'clock, in Room 1301

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Wampler Mr.
Mr. Jones (N.C.) Mr. Sebelius Mr.
Mr. Bowen Mr. Findley Mr.
Mr. Richmond Mr. Symms Mr.
Mr. Baldus Mr. Johnson Mr.
Mr. Harkin Mr. Madigan Mr.
Mr. Bedell Mr. Grassley Mr.
Mr. English Mr. Hagedorn Mr.
Mr. Skelton Mr Coleman Mr.
Mr. Huckaby Mr. Hopkins Mr.
Mr. Glickman Mr. Mr.
Mr. Whitley Mr. Mr.
Mr. Coelho Mr. Mr.
Mr. Daschle Mr. Mr.
Mr. Stenholm Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

Fowler C. West John Waits
Bob Bor Jerry Jorgensen
Tony Imhof Carol Forbes
John Hogan Wayne Fletcher
Gary Norton Bob Cashdollar
Glenda Temple Joe Crapa
Bernie Brenner Lee Musil
Jim Culver Al Zepp






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Witnesses:

1. Panel: Impact on Food Prices and World Food Supply
Patty Stulp, Colorado Carl McClure, Colorado

2. Panel: Impact on Livestock Producers
Leon D. Riffel, Kansas
Richard G. Verbeke, Michigan
Bud Thiessen, Iowa
John Giorgi, California

3. Panel: Exports
Eugene L.Shore, Kansas Ronald G. Chase, Kansas Darrell Miller, Kansas Walter McClure, Kansas

4. Panel: Cotton
James A. Long, Texas
Mell Cherry, Texas

5. Panel:
Jim DuPree, Arkansas
L. A. Davidson, Mississippi
Chappell Sides, Jr., Mississippi

6. Panel: Grains
Bruce Laughlin, North Dakota
R. T. Sloan, Missouri
Larry Phinney, Michigan
Robert L. Tesluck, Michigan
Tom Tesluck, Michigan

7. Panel:
Polly Woodham, South Carolina
Julia Watkins, Virginia Jeanne Rohl, Wisconsin

8. Reverend Andrew Gottschalk, Denver, Colorado.
Statements Filed:

1. Wilbur Guthrie, Vermilion County, Illinois

2. J. E. Bartelsmeyer, Mt. Vernon, Missouri.






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Thursday, February 15, 1979 Full Committee
Public Hearing
Current Agricultural Situation


Acting Chairman Bedell called the meeting to order and recognized Mr. Sebelius for comments on the current agricultural situation. Chairman Foley recognized the witnesses listed on page 2 for their prepared testimony. Following presentation of their statements, the witnesses were questioned by the Members of the Committee.

The following special introductions were made: Mr.
Johnson introduced Ms. Stulp and Mr. McClure; Mr. Sebelius introduced Mr. Riffel and Panel 3; Mr. Grassley introduced Mr. Thesin; Mr. Stenholm introduced Panel 4; and Mr. Bowen introduced Panel 5.

At 12:50 p.m. the meeting was adjourned to reconvene
on Tuesday, February 20, to receive additional testimony on the operation of the current farm program and possible legislative proposals and recommendations.





7Glenda Temple







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U.s. )ou~e of 1Aprerntatibes CommitiItrr on 2grictlturc
Jlastington, D.C. 20315

MINUTES

DATE ..February .15, 1979 .......

(SUB) COMMITTEE ..... TobaC.Q ...........


Proposal to establish a 5-day selling SUBJECT: week for the flue-curedtohacco..belt

FILL 140NS. .

The ....... Tobacco ...... ... (Sut)Committee met

in ..Open SLession at 2:17 p.m.0'clock, in Room 13Q2.

The following Members were present:
Also Present
Mr. Jones, N.C. Mr. Hopkins Mr. Perkins
Mr. Vhitley Mr. Wampler Mr. Fountain
Mr. Rose Mr. Mr. Jenrette
Mr. Baldus Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. M'r.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr.

Staff present:

Charlotte Farwell, Staff Assistant Carol Dubard, Staff Assistant Wanda Worsham, Staff Assistant






Action taken:
-- By unanimous voice vote, Whitley resolution was agreed to.












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Witresses:
1. Mr. Albert G. Clay, Chairman of the Board, Burley Auction Warehouse Association, Mt. Sterling, Kentucky

2. Dr. Hugh Kiger, Executive Vice President, Leaf Tobacco Exporters Association, Raleigh, North Carolina

Acc. by: Mr. Howard Cone, Senior Vice President, Universal Leaf Tobacco
Company, Richmond, Virginia

3. Mr. Harry S. Bell, President, South Carolina Farm Bureau Federation, Columbia, South Carolina

4. Mr. Lonzo Israel, South Carolina State Grange, Nichols, South Carolina

5. Mr. James W. Hill, Managing Director, Bright Belt Warehouse Association, Inc., Raleigh, North Carolina

6. Mr. Thomas W. Allen, Jr., Chairman, North Carolina State Grange, Creedmoor, North Carolina

7. Mr. Bill Little, Director, Commnodities f or the North Carolina Farm Bureau Federation, Raleigh, North Carolina




















Statements Filed:
1. Letter from: Mr. Stewart N. Smith, Acting Administrator, Agricultural Stabilization and Conservation Service, USDA, Washington, D.C.
2. Telex from Carreras-Rothmans Ltd., Basildon, Essex, England 3. Telex from Skandinabisk Tobakskompagni A/S, Soborg, Denmark
4. Statement from Fred Barnes, the Board of Directors of Flue-Cured Tobacco Cooperative Stabilization Corporation, Raleigh, North Carolina
5. Letter from: Mr. Robert E. Clements, Vice President, R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27102
6. Letter from: Mr. D. R. Tedder, Vice President, Leaf Operations, Lorillard, Greensboro, North Carolina 27401
7. Letter from: Mr. William -a. Longest, Jr., Vice-President Leaf, Philip Morris, Richmond, Virginia
8. Letter from: Wayne Edwards, Ticket Marker, Abingdon, Virginia











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Thursday, February 15, 1979
Tobacco Subcommittee
Public Hearing
Five-Day Selling Week for the
Flue-Cured Tobacco Belt


Chairman Walter Jones called the meeting to order for the purpose of hearing testimony from the witnesses listed on page 2 of these minutes for their prepared statements. Following presentation of their testimony, the witnesses were questioned by the Members of the Subcommittee.

The Chairman recognized Honorable Carl D. Perkins, Honorable John W. Jenrette, Jr., and Honorable L. H. Fountain to introduce witnesses from their Congressional Districts. The Chairman also introduced from his Congressional District Mr. Bill Little.

Mr. Howard Cone submitted two telexes for inclusion in the hearing record.

The Chairman and Mr. Wampler submitted letters which appear on page 2 of these minutes to be included in the hearing record.

The Chairman recognized Mr. Whitley who moved that the Tobacco
Subcommittee resolve that the USDA be requested to reexamine its position to establish the five-day selling week and to give further consideration to retaining the present system as it has successfully existed since 1968 and report back to the subcommittee accordingly. In the presence of a quorum and by unanimous voice vote, Mr. Whitley's resolution was agreed to.

At 3:55 p.m., the Chairman adjourned the meeting subject to the call of the chair.



Wanda M. Worsham







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31p)uze of Aepreentatibeg
Committee on Zigricuture
Wambjington, D.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Wednesday, February 21, 1979

(90 Committee Full

Meeting: Public Hearing ----Current Agricultural Situation
Subject:

Bill Nos.

The Full ___ii) Committee

met in open Session at 2 0 0 o'clock, in Room 13 01

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Sebelius Mr.
Mr. Jones (N.C.) Mr. Symms Mr.
Mr. Rose Mr. Grassley Mr.
Mr. Baldus Mr. Coleman Mr.
Mr. Bedell Mr. Marlenee Mr.
Mr. Panetta Mr. Hopkins Mr.
Mr. Skelton Mr. Thomas Mr.
Mr. Glickman Mr. Mr.
Mr. Whitley Mr. Mr.
Mr. Coelho Mr. Mr.
Mr. Daschle Mr. Mr.
Mr. Hance Mr. Mr.
Mr. Anthony Mr. Mr.
Mr. Stenholm Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

Fowler C. West Carol Forbes
Bob Bor Jerry Jorgensen
John Hogan Wayne Fletcher
Glenda Temple Lee Musil
Bernie Brenner
Gene Moos
John Waits
Jim Culver







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Witnesses:

1. Mr. Ernest Wilson, Uniondale, Indiana.

2. Mr. Gerald Elkins, Hart, Texas.

3. Mr. W. Chandler Johnson, West Point, Virginia.

4. Mr. Elroy Karius, Box 2079, Melville, Sask., Canada,
Canadian Agricultural Movement.

Acc. by: Mr. Ben Hudye

5. Mr. Donald Johnson, Plains Cotton Growers, Lubbock, Texas.

6. Mr. B. F. Smith, Executive Vice President, Delta Council.

7. Mr. L. C. "Clell" Carpenter, Midcontinent Farmers Association,
Columbia, Missouri.

Acc. by: Mr. Hilton Bracey

8. Mr. John W. (Billy) League, National Association of Farmer
Elected Committeemen, Toney, Alabama.

9. Mr. Richard E. Colbert, President, Weldon State Bank,
Weldon, Illinois.
10. Mr. George Atkinson, Administrative Assistant, Associated
Milk Producers, Inc., San Antonio, Texas.

11. Mr. James Mitchell, Cotton Farmer, Wolfforth, Texas.

12. Mr. Kenneth Frick, Executive Vice President, Western
Cotton Growers Association.

13. Mr. C. Hoke Leggett, President, National Cotton Council of
America, from Hobgood, North Carolina.
(Continued Page 3)

Statements Filed:

1. Mr. Dan Felton, Jr., President, Agricultural Council of
Arkansas.

2. Mr. Horst G. Denk, Independent Bakers Association.

3. Hon. Charles Whitley, Member of Congress from North Carolina.











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Wednesday, February 21, 1979 Full Committee
Public Hearing
Current Agricultural Situation


Witnesses Continued:

14. Mrs. Betty majors, National President, WIFE, from Osceola,
Nebraska.

15. Mr. Peter 3. T. Nelsen, Agricultural Trade Council,
Sabillasville, Maryland.

16. Mr. Larry Bowley, Farmer from North Platte, Nebraska.

17. Mr. Ralph Roming, Farmer from Bovina, Texas.




Chairman Foley called the meeting to order and recognized the witnesses listed above for their prepared testimony on the current agricultural situation. Following presentation of their statements, the witnesses were questioned by the Members of the Committee.

The following special introductions were made: Mr. Hance introduced Messrs. Elkins, Johnson (Texas), Roming, Mitchell; Mr. Skelton introduced Messrs. Carpenter and Bracey; Mr. Jones (N.C.) introduced Mr. Leggett; and Mrs. Smith (Nebraska) introduced Mrs. Majors and Mr. Bowley.

At 5:00 p.m. the meeting was adjourned to reconvene at 10:00 a.m. on Thursday, February 22, to receive further testimony on the current agricultural situation.





Glenda Temple







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I.6. 3ouse of Repre entatibed Committee on 21gritrulturt
Wlabington, .C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Thursday, February 22. 1979

(91) Committee Full

Meeting: Public HearingSubject: Current Agricultural Situation

Bill Nos.

The Fn 1 1L]) Committee

met in .... en.... Session at .-1 o'clock, in Room -413 0 1

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Sebelius Mr.
Mr. Richmond Mr. Findley Mr.
Mr. Nolan Mr. Johnson Mr.
Mr Baldus Mr. Kelly Mr.
Mr. Bedell Mr. Grassley Mr.
Mr. English Mr. Coleman Mr.
Mr. Panetta Mr. Hopkins Mr.
Mr. Skelton Mr Thomas Mr.
Mr. Huckaby Mr. Mr.
Mr. Glickman Mr. Mr.
Mr. Hance Mr. Mr.
Mr. Stenholm Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

Fowler C. West Bob Cashdollar
Bob Bor John Waits
John Hogan Leighton Lang
Gary Norton Jim Culver
Glenda Temple Jerry Jorgensen
Bernie Brenner Lee Musil
Gene Moos
Rita DiSimone







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Witnesses:

1. Mr. Henry Eschwege, Director, Co unity an Ecormic
Development Division, General Accounoing Office, asingtn,
D.C.

Acc. by: Mr. Ed Schaeffer.

2. Mr. Reuben L. Johnson, Director of Leoislative Services,
National Farmers Union, Washington, D.C.

Acc. by: Mr. Robert J. Mullins, Assistant Director of Legislative Services.

3. Mr. John C. Datt, Director, Wasningcon Office, Akerican
Farm Bureau Federation.

Acc. by: Mr. C. R. Johnstc, President, Missouri Farm Bureau Federation.

4. Mr. Charles L. Frazier, National Farmers Orcanizatizn,
Washington, D.C.

5. Mr. Winston, Wilson, President, National Ass'cia:-::. of
Wheat Growers, Quanah, Texas.

Acc. by: Mr. Carl Schwensen.

6. Mr. Robert J. Wager, American Bakers Association, -easingono,
D.C.

7. Mr. Jim Dowty, Vice President, Texas Corn -ro; Dumas, Texas.

8. Mr. Mabry Foreman, Legislative Vice President, Grain
Sorghum Producers Association, Felt, Oklahoma.

9. Mr. Charles D. Rhoades, Minnesota Wheat Growers Associaticn,
Red Lake Falls, Minnesota.

Statements Filed:

1. Mr. Frederick J. Heringer, California Farm Eureau Federation,
Berkeley, California.

2. Mr. Randy Henninason, Submitted by Mr. Nolan of Minnesota.






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Thursday, February 22, 1979 Full Committee
Public Hearing
Current Agricultural Situation


Acting Chairman Nolan called the meeting to order. The witnesses listed on page 2 of these minutes were recognized for their prepared testimony on the current agricultural situation. Following presentation of their statements, the witnesses were questioned by the Members of the Committee.

The following special introductions were made: Mr. Nolan introduced Messrs. Eschwege, Schaeffer, and Rhoades; Mr. Hance introduced Mr. Wilson and Mr. Schwensen; and Mr. English introduced Mr. Foreman.

At 12:35 p.m. Acting Chairman Bedell adjourned the meeting to reconvene at 2:00 p.m. this date to receive additional testimony.





Glenda Temple






63

I.6. )ouse of Representatibr~
Committee on 21griculturt
Miaington, D.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Thursday, Fehruary 22. 1979

(St) Committee _Ful 1

Meeting: Public Hearing

Subject: Current Agricultural Situation

Bill Nos.

The Full I_ Committee
open 2:00 1301
met in Session at o'clock, in Room

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Sebelius Mr.
Mr. Weaver Mr. Findley Mr.
Mr. Baldus Mr. Johnson Mr.
Mr. Skelton Mr. Madigan Mr.
Mr. Whitley Mr. Thomas Mr.
Mr. Coelho Mr. Mr.
Mr. Hance Mr. Mr.
Mr. Stenholm Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

Fowler C. West Lee Musil
Bob Bor Al Zepp
John Hogan Wayne Fletcher
Gary Norton John Waits
Glenda Temple
Bernie Brenner






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Witles5-es:

I. Hon. Larry Keener, Alabama State Senate.

2. Hon. Bill Adams, Alabama House of Representatives.

3. Mr. Patrick B. Healy, Secretary, National Milk Producers
Federation, Washington, D.C.
4. Mr. Arnold E. Paulson, National Organization for Raw
Materials, Granite Falls, Minnesota.

5. Mr. Phillip Zediker, Farmer from Montague, California.

6. Mrs. Joyce Robinson, Teton Taxpayers Association,
Chouteau, Montana.

7. Mr. Jack W. Sandman, Farmer from Wauneta, Nebraska.

8. Mr. Noel W. Baker, Farmer from Alicia, Arkansas.

9. Mrs. Sandy Awtrey, Friona, Texas.

10. Mr. Gerald McCathern, Farmer from Hereford, Texas.

11. Mr. Lloyd Reeser, President, Solartronics, Inc., Weldon,
Illinois.

12. Mr. David Dipman, Unified School District #352, Goodland,
Kansas.










Statements Filed:


None






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Thursday, February 22, 1979 Full Committee
Public Hearing
Current Agricultural Situation



Acting Chairman Baldus called the meeting to order for
the purpose of receiving testimony on the current agricultural situation. The witnesses listed on page 2 of these minutes were recognized for their prepared statements. Following their presentations, the witnesses were questioned by the Members of the Committee.

The following special introductions were made: Mr. Sebelius introduced Mr. Dipman; Mr. Hance introduced Mrs. Awtrey and Mr. McCathern; and Mr. Madigan introduced Mr. Reeser.

At 4:08 p.m. Acting Chairman Whitley adjourned the meeting to reconvene subject to the call of the Chair.





Gllenda TempleJ'









8.w. 3Iouse of Representatibes Committee on agriculture
Wasbington, D.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Tuesday, February 27, 1979

M Committee Full

Meeting Public Hearing Meetng:

Subject: U.S. Sugar and Sweetener Policy

Bill Nos H.R. 2172, et. al. Bill Nos. _________________________The 11(lkw)Colmflttee

met in _... ene .-Session at -00- o'clock, in Room 1- 301

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Wampler Mr.
Mr. de la Garza Mr. Sebelius Mr.
Mr. Mathis Mr. Symms Mr.
Mr. Richmond Mr. Johnson Mr.
Mr. Baldus Mr. Madigan Mr.
Mr. Harkin Mr Jeffords Mr.
Mr. Bedell Mr. Kelly Mr.
Mr. Panetta Mr. Grassley Mr.
Mr. Skelton Mr. Hagedorn Mr.
Mr. Akaka Mr. Hopkins Mr.
Mr. Whitley Mr. Thomas Mr.
Mr. Coelho Mr. Mr.
Mr. Daschle Mr. Mr.
Mr. Hance Mr. Mr.
Mr. Anthony Mr.
Mr. Stenholm Mr.


Staff present:

Fowler C. West Bert Pena
Bob Bor George Dunsmore
John Hogan John Waits
Glenda Temple
Susan Bell
Linda Miller
Gene Moos
Bernie Brenner






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Witnesses:

1. Hon. George Hansen, Member of Congress from Idaho.

2. Hon. Bob Traxler, Member of Congress from Michigan.

3. Hon. David C. Treen, Member of Congress from Louisiana.

4. Panel: Southern Minnesota Beet Sugar Cooperative.

Frank Johnson, Hector, Minnesota
Leslie Kittelson, Milan, Minnesota
Alan Roebke, Hector, Minnesota

5. Mr. P. J. deGravelles, Jr., American Sugar Cane League.

6. Mr. Bill J. Cleavinger, President, Texas-New Mexico
Sugar Beet Growers Association

Acc. by: Mr. James W. Witherspoon, Executive Secretary

7. Mr. David Todd, Patton, Boggs and Blow, representing
Central American Sugar Council.

8. Mr. Jim Allen, Director of Advocacy, National Association
of Farmworker Organizations, Washington, D.C.

Acc. by: Ms. Kathleen Pool, Legal Director
Ms. Sandra Harding










Statements Filed:
1. Mr. Irvin Zitterkopf, Southern Minnesota Sugar Cooperative,
Renville, Minnesota.

2. Ms. Anne Kanten, sugar beet farmers from Minnesota.

3. Hon. John Breaux, Member of Congress from Louisiana.






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Tuesday, February 27, 1979
Full Committee
Public Hearing
U.S. Sugar and Sweetener Policy H..R. 2172, and related bills



Acting Chairman de la Garza called the meeting to order
and recognized the witnesses listed on page 2 of these minutes for their prepared testimony on U.S. sugar and sweetener policy. Following presentation of their statements the witnesses were
-,ucstioned by the Members of the Committee.

The following special introductions were made: Mr. Nolan introduced the Southern Minnesota Beet Sugar Cooperative panel; andI Mr. Eance in troduced Messrs. Cleavinger and Witherspoon.

At 12:05 p.m. the meeting was adjourned to reconvene at
10:00 a.m. on Thursday, March 1, to hear Administration witnesses discuss our sugar and sweetener policy.






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) ouge of epre.5entattbe
Committee on Agrirulturt Ma~tington, D.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date .Tid ybramy__2_I9 _A. M.

(Sub) Committee ......... Conservation and Credit ---Meeting: P__ ea.rin -.......................

Subject: ...................... C ro p In su r a n c e

Bill Nos.

The Conservation and Credit (Sub) Committee

met in open Session at 9 : 30 a.rm *'clock, in Room 1302

The following Members were present:

Mr. Jones (Tenn.) Mr. Madigan Mr.
Mr. Glickman Mr. Jeffords Mr.
Mr. Harkin Mr. Kelly Mr.
Mr. Richmond Mr. Coleman Mr.
Mr. Baldus Mr. Hopkins Mr.
Mr. Bedell Mr. Mr.
Mr. English Mr. Mr.
Mr. Panetta Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

Fowler C. West, Staff Director Robert M. Bor, Chief Counsel Robert Cashdollar, Subcommittee Staff Consultant Wayne Fletcher, Staff Assistant Jerry Jorgensen, Staff Assistant Al Zepp, Staff Assistant Gary Norton, Assistant Counsel George Dunsmore, Staff Assistant E. Lee Musil, Staff Assistant Eleanor Walsh, Staff Assistant






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1~n --)n Paxntta, Mtrnber of Congress from California

2. [)r. inadSchuh, Deputy Assistant Secretary for International
Af4rairs and Commodity Programs, U.S. Department of Agriculture

3. Mr. James Deal, Manager, Federal Crop Insurance Program, U.S.
Department of Agriculture

4. vi:. Billy Ray, Chappell, Nebraska

3. Mr loCarlson, President, Deuel County State Bank, Carson
Nc~ra

6. Mr. Bob Starr, Redwood Falls, Minnesota

7. Mr. Dale Wright, Vice President, Holly Hill Lumber Company,
Holly Hill, South Carolina
Acc. by: Mr. Joe Hensen, National Forest Products Association
Washington, D.C.



















StateentsFiled:







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Tuesday, February 27, 1979 A.M. Conservation and Credit Subcommittee Public hearing
Crop Insurance


Chairman Ed Jones called the meeting to order and introduced
a~ elcomed Mr. Hopkins of Kentucky to the Subcommittee. He then r--oomrized the witnesses listed on page 2 of these minutes for theiir prepared statements.

Following presentation of their testimony, the witnesses were
~: ~tinedby the Members of the Subcommittee.

At 12:07 p.m., the Chairman adjourped the meeting to reconvene at 2:00 p.m. this date to receive additional testimony.






Eleanor Walsh






72


~ ~?USCof '1-'\prCsuitaItibf% 4CO11111tcr oil 2lgUICIIrutu


AILNUTES

Date 27.sdy L r 2L1199 P.M.





Me ing 1>~U------n ------- --------1A Cr d t__~ (Sub) COmm= t

rn~t n .. .,.Session at 2 0Q .T o'clock, in Room -------- I

Th~ <. gA ~rkrere prt-senit:
Also- Pre-sent
enn M> r. an ars C- Mr r lev


Mr M.,r.Mr


Mr.~~ Mrr.

Mr. Mr.Mr.


Mr. Mr.Mr






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Witnesses:

1. Mr. Arthur White, Byron, Georgia

2. Mr. Rodney Garrison, Jonestown, Mississippi

3. Mr. Ervin Haar, Onaka, South Dakota

4. Hon. James Abdnor, Member of Congress from South Dakota

5. Mr. Dalton R. Pittman, Shreveport, Louisiana

6. Mr. Eldon Pankratz, Hillsboro, Kansas




























Statements Filed:

Letter and statement from Mr. J. T. Griffithis, Director, Special Projects, Florida Citrus Mutual, Lakeland, Florida

Letter from Mark W. Seetin, Commissioner, Minnesota Deartnt of Agriculture






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Tuesday, February 27, 1979 P.M. Conservation and Credit Subcommittee
Public Hearing
Crop Insurance



hahirm Jones called the meeting to order for the purpose of hearing testimony from the witnesses listed on age 2 of these minutes for their prepared statements. Following presentation of their testimony, the witnesses were questioned by the Members of the Subcommittee.

The folloing special introductions were made: 1r. ELrinkley i:.troduced Mr. -hi':; Mr. Daschle introduced Mr. Haar Ar. muckaby introduced Mr. FA.ttran; and Mr. Glickman iUtroduced Mr Panktratz.

At 3:30 p.m., the meeting was adjourned to reconvene on We .esday, February 28, at 2:00 p.m. to receive aditional testimony.






Eleanor Walsh







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M.. Ioue of Representatibeo
Committee on Agriculture
Mlasbington, .C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Wednesday, February 28, 1979(Sub) Committee Qr.Consexrtion.nd.Cre i_.

Meeting: _Public He ar---- -. ----ing--Subject: Federal CropInsurance

Bill Nos. NONE

The Conservation and Credit (Sub) Committee

met in 9pen Session at 2: 05 p.Im. o'clock, in Room 1302 LHOB

The following Members were present: also present:
Mr. Jones, Tenn., Chairman Mr. Madigan Mr. de la Ga za
Mr. Harkin Mr. Marlenee Mr.
Mr. Hance Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

Mr. Bob Cashdollar, Subcammittee Staff Consultant
Mr. Wayne Fletcher, Staff Assistant Mrs. Peggy Pecore, Staff Assistant






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Inc.

Tnc.

2.



17 jj



Reserve, MDnta-,a id Di.r,. ctor Deposit Bank,


6 M :)rtJi Carol i na,

7. Mr. ice, e Presid(mt, "'(,xas Cit-rus Mlutual, McAllen, Te>--s.

9. D' ftly rs' -uE Center, Weslaco, -c-:Kas.

& I ity Citi


















I. l-,ot t r ,',:.s Count,; hion, Linton,
to O 1 17,

2.

r(ITI






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Subccnlnittee on Conservation and Credit Public Hearing
Federal Crop Insurance





Chairman Jones called the meeting to order and recognized the witnesses in the order listed on page 2 for their prepared testimny.

The witnesses were called to the witness table en bloc to answer questions fran the Members as appearing in the record.

During the hearing, Congressman Cavanaugh introduced Mr. Miesbach and Congressman de la Garza introduced Messrs Wallace, Ellis, and Hensz.

The hearing was adjourned at 3:35 p.m. to reconvene at 9:30 a.m. March 1 to hear further testimony on the Federal Crop Insurance Program.



Peg 0 7ecore
















































4t7-987 0 -79 -6





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I.*. 'ouSr of Rrprrsentattbt% Comni ee on 2griulturt Waobington, D.C. 20515
MINUTES

Date Thursday, March 1, 1979

(96) Committee Full ___

Meeting: Public Hearing

Subject: Sugar and Sweetener Policy

Bill Nos. H.R. 2172, and related bills
Full
The Full b Committee

met in open Session at 10 0 0 o'clock, in Room 1301

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Wampler Mr.
Mr. de la Garza Mr. Sebelius Mr.
Mr. Richmond Mr. SyMMs Mr.
Mr. Nolan Mr. Johnson Mr.
Mr. Harkin Mr. Madigan Mr.
Mr. Panetta MrS Heckler Mr.
Mr. Skelton Mr. Hagedorn Mr.
Mr. Huckaby Mr. Coleman Mr.
Mr. Glickman Mr. Marlenee Mr.
Mr. Akaka Mr. Hopkins Mr.
Mr. Anthony Mr. Thomas Mr.
Mr. Stenholm Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

Bob Bor, Chief Counsel Glenda Temple, Clerk Gene Moos, Staff Analyst Susan Bell, Staff Assistant Linda Miller, Staff Assistant Bernie Brenner, Press Assistant Jim Culver, Staff Assistant Bert Pena, Subcommittee Staff Consultant Gary Norton, Assistant Counsel






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Witnesses:

1. Hon. John B. Breaux, Member of Congress from Louisiana.

2. Mr. Howard W. Hjort, Director of Economics, Policy Analysis
and Budget, U.S. Department of Agriculture, Washington, D.C.


































Statements Filed:





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Thursday, March 1, 1979
Full Commi--ttee
Public He aring
Sugar and- Sweetener Policy
H.R. 2172, and related bills



Acting Chairman do la Garza called the meeting to order
and recognized the witnesses listed on page 2 of these minutes for their prepared testimony on United States sugar and sweetener policy. Following presentation of their statements the witnesses were questioned by the Members of the Committee.

At 12:00 noon the meeting was adjourned to reconvene at
10:00 a.m. on Tuesday, March 6, to receive additional testimony. During the proceedings one recess was taken at 11:20 a.m. to enable Members to respond to a roll call vote on the House Floor.


Glenda Temple






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?.*. Aouse of Representatibet Committee on Algriculturt
1azIsington, 3.C. 20515

MNUTES

Date _Tbulday., __-rch.!329

(Sub) Committee ...... on Conse rvatioand Cr-edit .- -.... ...

Meeting: Public Hearing - -...... --------Subject: Federal Croo Insurance

Bill Nos. None --The Conservation and Credit (Sub) Committee

met in oen -- Session at 9:40 a.m. o'clock, in Room 1302 ,B

The following Members were present:

Mr. Jones, Tenn., Chairman Mr. :'adigian Mr.
Mr. Harkin Mr. Hopkins Mr.
Mr. Huckaby Mr. Mr.
Mr. Glickman Mr. Mr.
Mr. Panetta Mr. MIr.
Mr. Daschle Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. MIr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

Bob Cashdollar Wayne Fletcher
Peggy Pecore
Jerry Jorgensen





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Witnesses:

1. Mr. John Junior Armstrong, President, Kansas Farm Bureau, represent inj Nrkrican Farm Bureau Federation, accxnpanied by:
Mr. John Datt, Director AFBF, Washington, D. C. office
Mr. Kirk Miller, Assistant Director AFBF, Washington, D.C. office

2. Mr. Reuben Johnson, National Farmrs Union, Washington, D.C. accompanied by: Ms. Charlotte Garner, Texas Farmers Union, Seminole, Texas

3. Mr. Herman Propst, National Cotton Council, Washington, D.C.

4. Mr. Jim Billington, Chairman, Farmers Programs Cczrnittee, National Association of Wheat Growers, Altus, Oklahoma, acxxnpanied by:
Mr. Carl Schwensen, National Association of Wheat Growers, Washington, D.C. office

5. Mr. Charles Finson, Chairman, Agricultural Bankers Division, American Bankers Association, accompanied by:
Mr. Bill Dabagh, General Legislative Counsel, ARA Washington, D.C. office

6. Mrs. Gwen Bulman, Cash Farms, Cowpens, South Carolina

7. Mr. Clarence Day, Billar, Arkansas

8. Mr. Frank Jones, Lexington, Mississippi

9. Mr. B. B. Haigler, National Association of Farrr'-Elected Ccmrutteeen, Indian Falls, North Carolina

10. Mr. John Krabseth, President, Federal Crop Insurance Agents Association, Williston,
North Dakota, accompanied by:
Mr. Willard Michels, Plentywood, Montana.

11. Mr. Lyle Bauer, Harper, Kansas, President, National Association of Conservation
Districts, acccpanied by:
Mr. Neal Sampson, Executive Vice President, National Association of Conservation
Districts, Washington, D.C.

Mr. Jamnes Deal, Manager, Federal Crop Insurance Corporation, USDA was in the audience
to answer any questions
Statements Filed:






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Subccrmittee on Conservation and Credit Public Hearing
Federal Crop Insurance



Chairman Jones called the meeting to order for the purpose of hearing testimony frame the witnesses in the order their names appear on page 2.

Congressman Harkin chaired the meeting from 9:45 to 10:00 a.m.

After all witnesses had presented their testimony, they were called to the witness table as a panel to answer questions from Menbers of the Subcarrittee. During questioning of the witnesses, the SubcaTTnittee recessed from 11:25 to 11:45 so that Members could answer a quorum call on the House Floor.

The meeting was adjourned at 11:55 a.m., to reconvene at 2:00 p.m. this date to hear further testimony on the subject of crop insurance.





Peggy L core





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Coniiftic on Agruiculture
Rlatgbington, D.(C. 20515

MINUTES

Date _ni XMarch 1,_1979___(Sub) Committee n- CorservatioaLand& rit -----M eeting : ------------- -_-------Subject: -EaderaL~rj~srne-_B ill N os. N one. -------------- --------The ~ -(Sub) Commnittee

met i n o~ ~ Session at --- ~ o'clock, in Room.13QLIUQ.The following Members were present:

Mr. J sTnnChainur Mr. Madigan Mr.
Mr. Gi)xnMr. Kelly Mr.
M r. Bald:us Mr. Mr.
M Ir. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. M r.
M lr. Mr. M Ir.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Mr. Mr.
M r. Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

B(,b C ].Iohr






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Witnesses:

1. Mr. Russell Miller, Minnesota Farmers Union, Maynard, Mitnnesota.

2. Mr. Sig Magnussen, Minnesota Farmers Union, Georgetown, Minnesota.

3. Mr. John Hankins, Keeling, Virginia

4. Mr. Tan Barlow, National Resources Defense Council, Washington, D.C.

5. Mr. E. C. "Smokey" Stokes,U.S. Chamber of Corierce, Washington, D.C., for
Mr. Clarence Palmhy, Vice President for Public Affairs, Continental Grain
Canpany, and member, Board of Directors, U.S. Chamber of Commerce




Mr. James Deal, Manager, Federal Crop Insurance Corporations, USDA, was in the audience to answer any questions





















Statements Filed:

1. Statement of Mr. T. K. McDowell, Route 1, Vernon Hill, Virginia 24597.

2. Statement of Mr. Edwin T. Conner, Route 1, Clover, Virginia 24534

3. Statement by Mr. Bill Moody, State FOrester of Alabama, representing National
Association of State Foresters.






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Thursday, March 1, 1979 SubcaTrn~it tee on Conservation and Credit Public Hearing P.M. Federal Crop Insurance


Acting Chairmran Glickmran called the meeting to order and recognized the witnesses in the order listed on page 2 for their prepared testimocny.

Chairman Jones took the chair at 2:40 p.m.

After all witnesses had presented their testimony, they were called to the witness table as a panel to answer questions fromn Mmers of the Subcomittee.
Chairman Jones adjourned the meeting at 2:50 p.m., to reconvene subject to the call of the Chair.



Peggy tLPecore






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M Lfouge of xepr eantatibro
Connittee on Zgriculture Wasington, D.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Tuesday Mh _79

(SW Committee Fu 11

Meeting: .Publi-c Hearing_ L..............

Subject: U.S. Sugar and Sweetener Polic

H.R. 2172 and related bills --__Bill Nos-- - ------*--The Pill ___ (1 Committee

met in _pen Session at -.4GO- o'clock, in Room -1-34-The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Wampler Mr.
Mr. de la Garza Mr. Findley Mr.
Mr. Jones (Tenn.) Mr. Symms Mr.
Mr. Richmond Mr. Johnson Mr.
Mr. Baldus Mrs Heckler Mr.
Mr. Harkin Mr. Jeffords Mr.
Mr. Fithian Mr. Kelly Mr.
Mr. Panetta Mr. Grassley Mr.
Mr. Huckaby Mr. Thomas Mr.
Mr. Glickman Mr. Mr.
Mr. Akaka Mr. Mr.
Mr. Whitley Mr. Mr.
Mr. Coelho Mr. Mr.
Mr. Daschle Mr. Mr.
Mr. Stenholm Mr.
Mr. Mr.


Staff present:

Fowler C. West, Staff Director Bob Bor, Chief Counsel John Hogan, Counsel Glenda Temple, Clerk Susan Bell, Staff Assistant Linda Miller, Staff Assistant Bernie Brenner, Press Assistant Gene Moos, Staff Analyst Bert Pena, Subcommittee Staff Consultant Jerry Jorgensen, Subcommittee Staff Consultant Gary Norton, Assistant Counsel









2




1 t y:er, Mb o Concress fro e >ew York.

2. hn. Pcaltasar Corrada, Delegate from Puerto Pico.

3. Mr. Horace D. Godfrey, Vice President, Florida Sugar Cane
League and Washington representative, Texas-Rio Grande Valley
Suar: Cane Growers Cooperative.

4. Mr. David C. Carter, President, U.S. Beet Sugar Association,
Washington, D.C.

5. Mr. Kish Otsuka, farmer from Sedgwick, Colorado, and
President, American Sugarbeet Growers Association.

6. Mr. Joe Tokunaga, President, Washington Sugar Beet
Gro -.:rs Association, from Moses Lake, Washington.

7. Mr. George Sinner, President, Red River Valley Sugarbeet
Growers Association, Casselton, North Dakota.

8. Mr. Charles D. Shamel, President and Chief Executive Officer,
American Crystal Sugar Company, Moorhead, Minnesota.

9. Mr. Robert H. Hughes, Director, Hawaiian Sugar Planters'
Association.

Acc. by: Mr. Rogert H. Sullivan, Vice President and
Washington representative.

10. Mr. Robert C. Liebenow, President, Corn Refiners
Association, Inc., Washington, D.C.

Acc. by: Mr. Donald E. Nordlund, Chairman, A. E. Staley
Manufacturing Company.

11. Mr. Herbert J. Waters, National Corn Growers Association,
Des Moines, Iowa.
(Continued)
Statements Filed:

1. Mr. John H. Sharon, on behalf of the Mauritius Sugar
Syndicate.

2. Supplemental Statement of Texas-New Mexico Sugar Beet
Growers Association--Presented and filed by Bill J.
Cleavinger, President, and James W. Witherspoon, Executive
Secretary.







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Tuesday, March 6, 1979
Full Committee
Public Hearing
U.S. Sugar and Sweetener Policy H.R. 2172 and related bills


Witnesses Continued:

12. Mr. Gregg R. Potvin, President, United States Cane Sugar
Refiners' Association, Washington, D.C.

13. Mr. Arnold Mayer, Director of Legislative Department,
Amalgamated Meat Cutters and Butcher Workmen of North
America (AFL-CIO), Washington, D.C.

14. Professor Scott C. Whitney, Counsel for the Royal Thai
Government.

15. Mr. Reuben L.Johnson, Director of Legislative Services,
National Farmers Union, Washington, D.C.

16. Mr. Malcolm Young, Executive Manager, California Beet
Growers Association, Ltd. Stockton, California.

17. Mr. E. Linwood Tipton, Vice Chairman, Sugar Users Group,
Washington, D.C.

Acc. by: Mr. James V. Stanton, Counsel

18. Ms. Kathleen D. Sheekey, Legislative Director, Consumer
Federation of America, Washington, D.C.




Acting Chairman de la Garza called the meeting to order and recognized the witnesses listed above for their prepared testimony on current U.S. sugar and sweetener policy. Following presentation of their statements, the witnesses were questioned by the Members of the Committee.

The following special introductions were made: Chairman
Foley introduced Mr. Tokanaga; Mr. Johnson introduced Mr. Otsuka.

At 1:00 p.m. the meeting was adjourned to reconvene at
10:00 a.m. on Wednesday, March 7, to consider recommendations of the Budget Task Force on the fiscal year 1980 budget.




XGlenda Temple






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0.6. 3)ouge of Ikepretentatibeg Committee on fgrtculturt ,agiington, 3.C. 20515

MINUTES

Date Wednesday, March 7, 1979

(t Committee Full

Meeting: Business

Subject: -Recommendations of the Budget Task Force

Bill Nos.

The Full __ Committee

met in openSession at __ Oh_ o'clock, in Room -1 1 1

The following Members were present:

Mr. Foley Mr. Whitley Mr. Wampler
Mr. de la Garza Mr. Daschle Mr. Sebelius
Mr. Jones (Tenn.) Mr. Hance Mr. Findley
Mr. Bowen Mr. Anthony Mr. Symms
Mr. Rose Mr. Stenholm Mr. Johnson
Mr. Richmond Mr. Mr. Madigan
Mr. Weaver Mr. Mr.s Heckler
Mr. Baldus Mr. Mr. Jeffords
Mr. Bedell Mr. Mr. Kelly
Mr. English Mr. Mr. Grassley
Mr. Fithian Mr. Mr. Coleman
Mr. Panetta Mr. Mr. Marlenee
Mr. Skelton Mr. Mr. Hopkins
Mr. Huckaby Mr. Mr. Thomas
Mr. Glickman Mr.
Mr. Akaka Mr.


Staff present:

Bob Bor, Chief Counsel John Hogan, Counsel Tony Imhof, Counsel Glenda Temple, Clerk Jim Culver Staff Assistant Gary Norton, Assistant Counsel Bernie Brenner, Press Assistant John Kramer, Special Counsel Steve Adams, Staff Assistant Carol Dubard, Staff Assistant






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Witnesses:

Dr. Francis Mulhern, Administrator, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, USDA, responded to questions concerning
the programs under the jurisdiction of his agency.




































Statements Fled:

None






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Wednesday, March 7, 1979
Full Committee
Business Meeting
Recommnendations of the Budget Task Force


Act ion Taken:
By show of hands vote of 8 yeas-il nays Glickman amendment
on competitive research grants not agreed to.

-- Daschle amendment on gasohol approved by voice vote.

Without objection, Kelly footnote on sugar cane smut research
approved.

Marlenee amendment covering leafy spurge approved by a voice
vote.

By voice vote Coleman amendment to brucellosis eradication
program not agreed to.

By show of hands vote of 2 yeas-7 nays Kelly amendment to
other contagious animal products program and animal quarantine
program not approved.

Baldus footnote on employee level in cooperative research
agreed to.



Acting Chairman de la Garza called the meeting to order for the purpose of receiving recommendations of the Budget Task Force for consideration by the full Committee. Counsel Bor was recognized to explain the recommendations on budget ceilings for programs under the jurisdiction of the House Committee on Agriculture.

Discussion occurred on the attached summaries as well as the detailed budget table (see Committee files for table). Mr. Jeffords confirmed that his bill on farm land preservation was included in the list of possible legislation which may be enacted and have budgetary impact on the fiscal year 1980 budget.

There were no questions on the funds for the departmental staff offices programs. Discussion occurred on the authority for the Science and Education Administration.

Mr. Glickman offered an amendment on page 4 of the detailed
budget table to reduce the Task Force recommendation of $21 million







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Wednesday, March 7, 1979
Full Committee
Business Meeting
Recommendations of the Budget
Task Force


to $17,500 million for competitive research grants. Discussion occurred and by a show of hands vote of 8 yeas-ll nays the amendment was not agreed to.

Mr. Daschle asked for information on the so-called gasohol research program. Discussion occurred and Mr. Daschle moved to amend the detailed budget table on page 4 by adding an additional $500,000 to the grants for industrial hydrocarbon research. Discussion continued and by a voice vote the Daschle amendment was agreed to. Without objection staff was given permission to insert the funds at the appropriate place.

Mr. Kelly advised that he would like to add $357,000 to the budget to deal with sugar cane smut research. He was advised that funds were already present on page 3 of the detailed budget table under the program for research on plant production. Mr. Kelly asked unanimous consent that a footnote be added to cover the item and there was no objection.

Discussion occurred on the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service budget. Mr. Marlenee moved to restore the budget for noxious weeds to the 1979 budget authority of $750,000 by adding $550,000 to the Task Force recommendation to cover control of leafy spurge which is spreading over rangelands. Discussion occurred and by a voice vote the amendment was agreed to.

Mr. Coleman questioned the representative of the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service concerning brucellosis. Mr. Coleman moved to add $10 million to the brucellosis eradication program and discussion occurred. By a voice vote the Coleman amendment was not agreed to.

Mr. Kelly moved to amend the detailed budget table by
adding $1.325 million to the 1980 request for control of other contagious animal products program and $634,000 to the animal quarantine program. Discussion occurred and by a show of hands vote of 2 yeas-7 nays the Kelly amendment was not agreed to.

Mr. Baldus expressed concern on the level of employees on cooperative research under the Economics, Statistics, and Cooperatives Services budget. He asked the staff to make a footnote for the Appropriations Committee and there was no objection.


























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Wednesday, March 7, 1979 Full Committee Business Meeting Recommendations of the Budget Task Force


There were no questions on the budgets for the World Food and Agricultural outlook and Situation Board; Foreign Agricultural Service; office of International Cooperation and Development; and Foreign Assistance Programs budgets and the sections were considered approved as reflected on the attached chart.

At 12:05 p.m. the meeting was adjourned to reconvene at
10:00 a.m. on Thursday, February 8, to continue consideration of budget recommendations.




Glenda Temple




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