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VOL. 1/ISSUE 43 FRIDAY, AUGUST 30, 2013 35 cents The Treasure Coast has been missing about a hundred faces since November. Theyre home now with big smiles. On Friday, Aug. 23, the Florida National Guards 806th Military Police Company returned home from a deployment to Afghanistan in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. The company is stationed in Fort Pierce. It was the companys second deployment to Afghanistan. It was also deployed in 2004 to 2005. Staff Sgt. Andres Moreira Jr. was in both deployments. He said deploying is something a soldier never starts liking. One really never looks forward to going back, he said. For the most part, it was nerve-racking. You can do all the training in the world, but when youre expecting the unexpected thats very scary. Not knowing if youll come home the same way, in one piece, thats very scary. Moreira is back home just in time for his daughter, Autumn, to start high school. Scaring off guys is what Ill be doing, he said. His son Alex is starting his last year of elementary school. The 33-year-old joined the guard back in 1998, shortly after high school. I was in (Army Junior ROTC) in high school, Moreira said. Going through ROTC in high school, you tend to have a respect for the military. Staff Sgt. Jose Angulo also lives in Port St. Lucie. Hes been in the National Guard for 12 years. This was his second deployment to Afghanistan, too. There were big differences between the two de ployments for him. Back in 2004, he had a friend named Amy. When I came home, we started dating, Angulo said. When he got his boots back on Florida this time, Angulos wife was waiting for him. It was a big change for her, he said. Last time, we were just The 806th is back home Patrick McCallisterFOR VETERAN VOICEpatrick.mccallister@yahoo.comSee 806TH page 4 SUBSCRIBERS:USPS has approved our Periodicals Permit. Veteran Voice should now be handled as First Class mail. If your copy is delayed, email us the date you received it and your zip code toinfo@veteranvoiceweekly.comThank you for your help on assuring the best delivery times possible.5429


2 AUGUST 30, 2013 VETERAN VOICE THE VOICE OF EXPERIENCE County Veterans Service OfficersSt. Lucie County, Wayne Teegardin Phone: (772) 337-5670 Fax: (772) 337-5678 veterans@stlucieco.orgDorothy J. Conrad Building(formerly the Walton Road Annex Bldg.) 1664 S.E. Walton Road, Suite 205 Port St. Lucie, FL 34952 By appointmentMon., Tues, Thurs, Fri 8:30 am-4:30 pmWed 8:30 a.m.-3 p.m. St. Lucie County Community Services Bldg.(Corner of Avenue D and 7th Street) 437 N. Seventh St., Fort Pierce, FL 34950 Walk-ins Mon. and Fri. 8:30 a.m. 4:30 p.m. Brevard Veterans Services Office2725 Judge Fran Jamieson Way, Bldg. B, Suite 102, Viera, FL 32940 Office: (321) 633-2012 Fax: (321) 637-5432 Mon., Tues. and Thurs., 8 a.m.-4 p.m. Wed. and Fri, 8 a.m.-noon Manager: Glenn McGuffieIndian River CountyJoel Herman Vero Beach 2525 St. Lucie Ave., Vero Beach, FL 32960 Ph: (772) 226-1499 Fax: (772) 770-5038Sebastian Square 11602 U.S. 1, Sebastian, FL 32958 Ph: (772) 589-6597 Fax: (772) 581-4988Martin CountyTony Reese, Veterans Service Office Supervisor Nick Ciotti, Veterans Service Officer (772) 288-5448Veterans Services OfficeMartin County Community Services 435 S.E. Flagler Ave., Stuart, FL 34994 Office Hours: Mon-Fri, 8 a.m.-5 p.m.VA Life Insurance Ctr., Phil., PA 1-800-669-8477 VA Regional Office 1-800-827-1000 VA Medical Ctr, W. Palm Beach 1-800-972-8262 Pharmacy, VA Medical Center 1-800-317-8387 Military Retired Pay Activities, Cleveland, OH (Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force ONLY) 1-800-321-1080 Military Retired Pay Activities, Topeka, KS (Coast Guard ONLY) 1-800-772-8724 Survivor Benefits (SBP), Denver, CO 1-800-435-3396 Stuart VA Clinic (772) 288-0304 Okeechobee CountyVeterans Services office (863) 763-6441, Ext 5. Fax: (863) 763-0118.Orlando VA Medical Cente5201 Raymond St., Orlando, FL 32803 (407) 629-1599 or (800) 922-7521Telephone Care(407) 599-1404 8 a.m.-4 p.m. Mon. Fri. (800) 645-6895 8 a.m. 4 p.m. Mon Fri (321) 637-3625 Viera patients8 a.m. 4 p.m. Mon. Fri. (877) 741-3400 Weekends, holidays, evenings and nightsWest Palm Beach Department of Veterans Affair s Medical Center7305 North Military Trail, West Palm Beach, FL 33410 (561) 422-8262 or (800) 972-8262 Telephone Care(561) 422-6838 (866) 383-9036 Open 24 hours 7 daysViera VA Outpatient Clinic2900 Veterans Way, Viera, FL 32940 Phone: (321) 637-3788 1 (877) 878-8387 Mon. Fri. 8 a.m.-4:30 p.m.St Lucie County PTSD Clinical Team (PCT) Outpatient Program 126 S.W. Chamber Court, Port St Lucie, FL 34986 Phone: (772) 878-7876Fort Pierce Community Based Outpatient Clinic727 North U.S. 1, Fort Pierce, FL 34950 Phone: (772) 595-5150 Fax: (772) 595-6560St Lucie Community Based Outpatient Clinic128 S.W. Chamber Court, Port Saint Lucie, FL 34986 Phone: (772) 344-9288Stuart Community Based Outpatient Clinic 3501 S E Willoughby Boulevard, Stuart, FL 34997 Phone: (772) 288-0304 Fax: (772) 288-1371Vero Beach Community Based Outpatient Clinic372 17th St., Vero Beach, FL 32960 Phone: (772) 299-4623 Fax: (772) 299-4632IMPORTANT N UMBERS ... Veteran Voice is a weekly publication designed to provide information to and about veterans to veterans and to the broader community. Veterans are an integral part of their Florida communities, which currently have individual organizations of their own, such as the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the American Legion, the Vietnam Veterans of America and many other groups with a narrow focus, but no convenient way to connect to a wider population of veterans and to the community in general within a limited geographic area, their community. The mission of Veteran Voice is to publish a weekly source of information that will provide, in one place, a listing of resources available to veterans, articles about changes in policies or organizations affecting veterans and events of interest to veterans as well as articles about veterans of interest to the general public. Veteran Voice LLC is organized as a partnership of experienced newspaper executives with an interest in veterans and in the communities of Florida veterans and friends. Veteran Voice is a start-up intended to address a perceived lack of information readily available to veterans on programs and policies affecting them and objective reporting of veteran affairs to the public. To our knowledge, and based on comments from lead ers of local veterans organizations, there was no media or website currently meeting this need until the launch of Veteran Voice. We hope you agree, and will support this publica tion with your subscription. Without subscriptions there will be a limited number of people we can help, without which this mission will not be realized. As part of our commitment to supporting local veteran communities, readers and subscribers. Please let us know what you think by emailing or mailing your comments to us at 1919 S.W. South Macedo Blvd., Port St. Lucie, FL 34984.OUR MISSION STATEMENTAND OUR OBJECTIVE5426 SUBSCRIBE TODAY!!! 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VETERAN VOICE THE VOICE OF EXPERIENCE AUGUST 30, 2013 3 Veterans in Fort Pierce have some new digs. On Friday, Aug. 23, the West Palm Beach Depart ment of Veterans Affairs Medical Center had the grand opening for St. Lucie Countys new Commu nity Based Outpatient Clinic. The clinic is at 1901 South 25th Street, suite 103. Dr. Darin Rubin, chief of prima ry care at the West Palm VAMC, said the new 9,100-square-foot facility will greatly improve many services to area veterans. It increases our mental-health facility, he said. Fort Pierces old CBOC, 727 North U.S. Highway 1, was about 8,400 square feet. The VA used that facility for 15 years. Jeffrey Lambert is national medical di rector for MedMark, the company the VA contracts with to run the Fort Pierce CBOC. When Veteran Voice asked him how the new facility would improve area veter ans medical services, he replied Fort Pierce gets new VA digs Patrick McCallisterFOR VETERAN See CBOC page 5 5393


4 AUGUST 30, 2013 VETERAN VOICE THE VOICE OF EXPERIENCE Publisher Partner Managing Editor Patrick McCallister (772) 204-2409 Veteran Voice is a newspaper for veterans, POSTAL STATEMENT e Voice of Experience friends. This time she had to go through it in the front seat. That made things different for him, too. Last time, my parents took care of everything, Angulo said. This time, I had to get involved and worry about my wife, worry about my house. The 806 was overseeing detainees this time around. Last deployment, it provided force protection. First deployment, we were protection for a civil affairs unit, Moreira said. That took the company to Afghan villages last deployment. This time around, they didnt have much interaction with lo cals. The 806 was designated an internment resettlement company in 2009. Moreira said most on the last deployment werent around last time. The biggest difference between the deployments for him? Rank, age, and responsibility, Moreira said. Angulo said he dreaded separation from Amy this deployment, but he was looking forward to putting his training to practice. I was excited, because Im in a different part of my career and Im leading troops, he said. th Photo courtesy ments. Photo courtesy 806TH from page 1 See 806TH page 11


VETERAN VOICE THE VOICE OF EXPERIENCE AUGUST 30, 2013 5 with a question. Have you visited the old facility? he said. We have much more room here, Lambert said. The VA put much more equipment here. Mayor Linda Hudson said shed visited the old location with family members receiv ing care. She said it had parking shortages and obvious signs of building aging. Im going to miss the old spot, but I know you will not miss the old spot, she told veterans gathered for the grand opening. Rubin said the Fort Pierce CBOC has about 5,100 pa tients. Its hovered around that number for a few years. Most are Vietnam-era veterans. He said the move helped the West Palm VAMC tailor equipment to the needs of that age group. Vietnam is one of the groups were targeting to come to our clinics and medical centers, Rubin said. To receive care at VA medical facilities, veterans must enroll. Those who served in the Vietnam-era are among to many. The youngest Vietnam-era veterans are now in their late 50s. Most are in their 60s to early 70s. The Florida Department of Veterans Affairs, a state agency nam-era veterans are the largest group in the Sunshine State. Of Floridas 1.6 million veterans, about 500,000 served during the Vietnam era. While the overall population of veterans is declining, Rubin said VA demographers predict the Treasure Coast will see a growing population of Vietnam-era veterans over the next decade. This area up here, St. Lucie County, the VA projects will be an area of growth, he said. One of the services expanded by the opening of the new, larger clinic is telehealth. Rubin said more St. Lucie patients will be able to visit with specialists at the West Palm VAMC, and from all over the country, with out having to drive out of town. It allows our veterans to get treatment in their own community, he said. than 60,000 veterans live in the West Palm VAMCs area Palm Beach, Hendry, Glades, Okeechobee, Martin, St. Lucie, and Indian River counties. It has six CBOCs. In addition to Fort Pierce, there are VA outpatient clinics in Vero Beach, Stuart, Delray Beach, Boca Raton and Okeechobee. Among those at the open house was Congressman Patrick Murphy, FL-18. He told attendees that his district, which stretches from Fort Pierce southward to Palm Beach, is in the top 50 with veterans populations. If there is anything you think the VA could be doing better, should be doing better, let us know, he said. There are about 40 CBOCs in Florida. thCBOC from page 3Vietnam is one of the groups were targeting to come to our clinics and medical centers. Dr. Darin Rubin chief of primary care West Palm VAMC 5431 All furnishings were designed for this home and are negotiableFor more information and pictures go to: Coley Real Estate GroupJason Coley/Realtor/CDPE 772-201-5229 Beautiful, custom designed 5 bd. 3.5 bth home, with library lo and oversized game room. Brazilian cherry wood, tile and carpet ooring, custom window treatments, granite, wrought iron railing, crown molding throughout. One of the most beautiful homes on the market and it comes with its own botanical garden-like landscaping Your Own Botanical Paradise and pool home in Vero Beach


6 AUGUST 30, 2013 VETERAN VOICE THE VOICE OF EXPERIENCE Be careful when giving to veterans charities This article is with refer ence to the various bogus charitable organizations who profess to be helping the military veterans. I am a WWII veteran and have been very involved with many vet eran groups. With the American Legion, I was a post commander, division commander and a county commander. With the VFW, I Disabled American Veterans, I was a chapter commander. I also served on, the advisory board to the director of the Northport Vet erans Medical Center and on the Board of Directors for the Home less Veterans in Long Island, N.Y. I believe I can speak from expe rience the people who really help the military veterans and those that are questionable. The U.S. Veterans Adminis tration is the prime provider for our military veterans. Even with the constant budget cuts, which unfortunately does affect the services provided, they do a good job. There are many truly sincere veterans groups who do help the veterans adjust to civilian life and walk them through the Veterans nizations such as the American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, Disabled American Veterans, the Korean War Veterans, the Vietnam War Veterans, the AMVETS, Catholic War Veterans and Jew ish War Veterans. There may be others but these organizations as a matter of record have prov en themselves to truly help the veterans. My concerns are the bogus organizations who legally get a erans as pawns to collect money so they can create a lucrative job for themselves. These organiza tions use the same advertise ment technique to lull the public with sympathy. For example, to list those who use emotions on the TV media: Save The Chil dren of the World TV $19 per month, Save The Dogs TV $19 per month, Save The Polar Bear TV $8 per month, Save The Tiger TV $8 per month, Salute to American Heroes TV donations Hospital Veterans Organizations TV Donations, Disabled Veterans Foundation Wearing BDU: uniforms on street corners, and the most advertised on TV and Magazines, The Wounded Warrior $19 per month. It is to be noted when The Wounded Warrior program airs an ad on TV, it leads you to be lieve they have programs which help the veterans. This is far from the truth. When the narrator supposedly describes the programs, which is never in detail or clear, what you see in the background is the rehabilitation scenes from the Veterans Administration medical centers. This is deception. They pay or they help a few, very few, veter ans to give testimony of receiving help. This is how they dupe the public with its million-dollar false advertisement. They even got celebrities to endorse their false mission. After they stimulate the publics emo tions, they ask for a $19-permonth donation. To validate what I am saying, I wish to quote a columnist called Eve Samples of Scripps Treasure Coast Newspapers, Dec. 6, 2012, which exposes the operations of the Wounded Warrior organization. The ubiquitous veterans charity Wounded Warrior Project raised about $74 million last See CHARITIES page 7 Buy One Get One FREE!!Regular 18 Hole Golf Rate $45 everyday. Including cart w/G.P.S The Ultimate Golf ExperienceA Public Course with a Private Club Feel... FA CILITIES INCLUDE: V isit for Online Specials$6000Before 11:30 am$4500After 11:30 am $2000After 2:30 pm 038342 YV2 YV2 YV2 5407 Expires 9/6/13Range Balls Any Size visit: Stuart, Florida772-287-3680 15 Acre Driving Range All Grass Tees Banquet Facilities for All Occasions The Ultimate Golf ExperienceA Public Course with a Private Club Feel... FA CILITIES INCLUDE: V isit for Online Specials$6000Before 11:30 am$4500After 11:30 am $2000After 2:30 pm 038342 $3100Before 11:30amIncludes Cart with G.P.S.$2000After 11:30amIncludes Cart with G.P.S.Good for up to 4 playersExpires 9/6/13Good for up to 4 playersExpires 9/6/13 The Ultimate Golf ExperienceA Public Course with a Private Club Feel... FA CILITIES INCLUDE: V isit for Online Specials$6000Before 11:30 am$4500After 11:30 am $2000After 2:30 pm 038342 772.336.4653 7900 N.W. Selvitz Rd. $20 before 4pm $15 After SPECIAL SUMMER RA TESIncludes tax & cart 5417 Just a short drive from Palm City and Less than10 minutes from St. Lucie West & Tradition On-line Specials Available Daily at Your Voice News Readers SPECIAL 4-SOME AFTER 10AM Tues, Thurs, Saturday & Sunday with coupon expires Sept. 30th $ 60 MEMBERSHIP SPECIAL 3 Months Free With Annual Membership First Timers Get 20% Off The First Year


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VETERAN VOICE THE VOICE OF EXPERIENCE AUGUST 30, 2013 11 Both said that there are many differences in Afghanistan since 2005. Some things, however, are the same. The weather, for in stance. It was cold when we got there, Angulo said. It was snowing. Then it was bitter cold. Then it got hot. Really hot. Operation Enduring Freedom Afghanistan is Americas longest military engagement, depending on how historical engagements are measured. Some military historians hold that Vietnam was longer, noting the presence of U.S. military personnel in Viet nam going back to the 1950s. However, most count the Vietnam War from when Congress passed the Tonkin Gulf Resolution in 1964 to the withdrawal of ground troops in 1973. OEF Afghanistan started in October 2001, shortly after the massive terrorist attacks on Sept. 11 that year. The Florida Nation al Guard reports that more than 17,000 members have deployed in support of federal mobiliza tions over the last 12 years. Moreira said Afghan society seems weary of the war. I think theyre ready to start their own lives and move on, he said. The United States has progressively pulled back from combat operations and shifted to training Afghan forces. President Barack Obama has worked toward a 2014 exit of American forces from Afghanistan, but has left open the possibility of remaining longer. Last time, we didnt work with the Afghan national army, Angulo said. This time we worked closely with them. Moreira and Angulo offered tips to the community about the returning guard members. Both said little displays of support and gratitude for their service mean a lot. Both also said that its help ful when friends, co-workers, neighbors and others are willing to listen, but not pushy about talking to guard members about their deployments. The one thing I can tell you not to do is ask if we shot anybody, Moreira said. 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