April 2, 1981
Attendees of the January 30, 1981 Quarterly Meeting of
the Water Management Districts
E. D. Vergara, Executive Director
St. Johns River Water Management District
SUBJECT: Summary Quarterly Meeting Minutes
Enclosed please find the minutes of the water management district's
quarterly meeting held in Palatka on Friday, January 30, 1981.
A. RAY BEVILLE
Chairman Femandlna Beach
Vice Chairman Orlando
CLAUDE 0. GODWIN
FRANK X. FRIEDMANN, JR.
JOHN V. D'ALBORA, JR.
E.D. "SONNY" VERGARA
POST OFFICE BOX 1429 o PALATKA, FLORIDA 32077
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Water Management Districts Quarterly Meeting
January 30, 1981
The Quarterly Meeting of the water management districts was held at 8:30 a.m.
at the District Headquarters of the St. Johns River Water Management District
in Palatka. In attendance were:
St. Johns River Water Management District Ray Beville, Frances
Pignone, E. D. Vergara, Idwal Owen, John D'Albora, Lynne Capehart
South Florida Water Management District Bob Clark, Jeanne Bellamy,
John (Woody) Wodraska
Southwest Florida Water Management District Bruce Sampson, Arch
Updike, Don Feaster, L. M. Blain, John Wehle
Suwannee River Water Management District Auly Rowell, Don Morgan,
Northwest Florida Water Management District Bill McCartney,
Marion Tidwell, Doug Stowell
Department of Environmental Regulation Secretary Jacob Varn, Vicki
Tschinkel, Terry Cole, Sandy Young, Chuck Littlejohn, George Wilson,
House Natural Resources Committee Fred Breeze, Susan Connelly
Senate Natural Resources Committee Dan Fernandez
Governor's Energy Office Jim Harvey, Fernando .ecio
Department of Community Affairs Jim Wischmeyer
Ray Beville, Chairman of the St. Johns River Water Management District
Governing Board, moderated the meeting.
PROPOSED REVISIONS TO CHAPTER 17-21
Secretary Varn said that a number of districts have experienced pro-
blems with the existing standards and the Department is trying to revise
them. Buddy Blain suggested adding to the rule the wording "that the con-
struction should be such that it would not allow water to go from surface
A. RAY SEVILLE FRANCES PIGNONE CLAUDE O. GOOWIN JOHN V. O'ALORA. JR.
Chairman Fernandina Beach Vice Chairman Orlando Secretary Tituville Treasurer Cocoa
LYNNE CAPEHART MICHAEL BRADOOCK FRANK X FRIEDMANN. JR. IWAL OWEN
Gainesvile Pierson JaclKonville Jackonville
E.D. "SONNY" VERGARA
January 30, 1981
water down or to go from one confined aquifier to the other." He suggested
that the districts should determine the type of construction that would be
most appropriate for different areas. Concerns were expressed on the impor-
tance of the well industry being notified of any rule changes, and the need
to have the industry involved in the review process. Secretary Varn advised
that DER will be scheduling a workshop on this matter soon.
PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAM
Secretary Varn advised that the Public Works Program has been admini-
stered not by rule but rather by the Administrative Procedures Act. He said
the Department plans to utilize a procedure to evaluate Florida Public Works
projects and would like input from the districts prior to having a public
workshop. Mr. Wodraska expressed concern that the public works projects are
becoming an unnecessary burden, and indicated that the rule could be of no
benefit to the water management districts. Secretary Varn advised that the
districts have to be in the public works process in order to receive federal
funds. Mr. Blain suggested a language change to remove the necessity of the
districts having to make requests for the same project each year if the pro-
ject had received approval the previous year. Mrs. Bellamy suggested combin-
ing the words "over-drainage" with the words "flood damage" whenever stated
in the rule.
STATE WATER POLICY
Secretary Varn said the Department has obtained input from the water
management districts. He urged each of the districts to attend the public
workshop when it is scheduled so as not to rely on the interpretation of the
Department. Meetings with various interest groups will be held prior to the
public workshops and a public hearing will be held on March 27, 1981. He
suggested that now is the appropriate time to raise any policy issues or con-
cerns. He said the Department plans to follow the scheduled timetable and is
committed to adopting this policy before the legislative session. Mr. Little-
john announced that he would go over some of the specifics and suggested
changes to the water policy in a group session immediately after the meeting.
Mr. Blain pointed out that the Department seems to be very close to having a
policy that can be supported by the districts.
REVISION TO DER RULES, CHAPTER 17-3 AND CHAPTER 17-4
Mrs. Tschinkel said the Department plans to continue working with the
districts on issues relating to these rules. Secretary Varn mentioned two
other rules under consideration, Hazardous Waste and Waste Water Construction
for Sewer Plants, Chapter 17-6. He suggested that the districts follow the
development of Rule No. 17-6 which will be discussed in Tampa the first week
January 30, 1981
BUDGETING PROCESS AND FUNDING
Mr. Vergara reviewed the water management district's funding opera-
tions. Secretary Yarn gave in overview of the budgetary process and indicat-
ed that -the Department has forwarded Its recommendations to the.Governor who
will release his recommended budget in early February. Secretary Varn maen
tioned proposed legislation establishing a land acquisition truft fund which
would guarantee the water management districts a source of funding amounting
to approximately $20,000,000 a year. He asked for input from the districts
on creating a new revenue source to support land acquisition matters and ex .
tended an invitation to all district chairmen to attend a meeting wih the
Governor to discuss funding and budgets. He advised that this meeting will
be scheduled sometime within the next two weeks.
Secretary Varn said all land acquisition funds will be budgeted under
"other fixed capital outlay"; the only district funding listed in 'the main
body of the Department's budget is the fund for the water quality rreponsi-
bility of South Floridae
Secretary Varn said the Governor has committed himself to the problems
in the South Florida and St. Johns Districts. Mr. Blain suggested the dis-
tricts establish their own priorities and make the decision of how the funds
should be spent more-equitably after receiving their total dollars. secretary
Varn suggested that the districts ohttin 'a copy f- the GOvernor' booklet out-
lining priorities reflected in the budget. Mr. Littlejohn requested each
district to outline itseland acquisition needs ant submit the'requests to
Commenting on the TRIM Bill, Mr. Vergara said the districts are un-
sure of being in compliance with the Bill. Mr. Blain said he had met with
the staff of both the House and Senate Finance Committees and discussed the
list of concerns. This list was distributed to the districts.
Mr, Blain comented on the District's performance audits. H suggest-
ed that. the districts attempt to change the requirements for performance
audits and to clearly label the recommendations by Mr. 'Ed Tempest as an in-
dictment of the legislature and not of the actions and performance of the
districts or DER.
January 30, 1981
OTHER LEGISLATION-GAME AND FISH COMMISSION
Secretary Varn explained the relationship of the Florida. Game and
Fresh Water Fish Coammision's proposed Fish and Wildlfe Coordination Act
with the Wetlands Protection Act. He' said/ the bill is to legitui.Lz e what the
Game and Fish Commission have historically been doing and it appears to be a
mild approach to such a controversial subject. Mr. Vergara .id the concept
of bringing concern for wildlife into t4e permitting program, is conceptually
a good idea, but the idea of having permit reviewed and commented upon by
the Fish and Game Commission is inconsistent with the legislature's plans for
"one-stop" permitting. Secretary Varn advised that the Game and Fish Commis-
sion has: filed a Petition for rule making relative to nutrients., The Depart-
ment has taken this petition under advisement and will report back to the
Commission in early April.
DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY TO WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS
Mr. Blai said the problem with Chapter 17-21 has been the rules
failure to effectively delegate, authority to the districts. Secretary Varn
said the delegation is tied in with the state water policy and, in his
opinion, concerns will be cured with that policy. Mr. Littlejohn advised of
a public hearing on delegation scheduled for February 18 1981 and ai workshop
on February 19, 1981
Mr. Fred Breeze, Staff Director, Bouse N~tural Resources, said the new
speaker has emphasized a reduction in new p[s~oram4 He indicated each commit-
tee would review statutes and current programs and, in particular, those
which have just recently been passed. He advised that tAo of the sub-comnitt
tees (permitting and water resources) will be meeting in workshops to review
permitting and the state water policy
Mr. Dan Fernandez, Staff Director, Senate Natural Resources, said the.
Senate is looking toward a quiet year. He said at this point the staff does
not have any assignments pertaining to water management at this tiet.
Mr. Breeze advised that the House has no committee bills underway or
CONSERVATION AND RECREATION LANDS PROGRAM (CARL)
Secretary Varn said the Governor and the Cabinet approved the top ten
priority list aes it .was Aubmitted. Since the $6,000,000 fund cannot be car-
ried forwarded, they began negotiations to purchase the top four projects.
He said they recognized the problem witt the definition of Environmentally
Endangered Lands (EEL) and have instructed the Department to adopt by rule a
more specific definition of EEL. Presently, Latt-Maxcy and the Green Swamp
remain on the list and appear to be in the fundable portion of the list.
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Secretary Varn said he was going to continue to urge that the district's land
acquisition program be eligible for CARL money.
NWFWMD ANNUAL MEETING
In discussing the NWFWMD annual meeting, Secretary Varn suggested the
Governor be requested to sponsor the annual water resources conference each
year in January or February prior to the legislative session.
Mr. Beville announced that the next quarterly meeting will be held at
the Suwannee River Water Management District in June.
GOVERNOR'S ENERGY PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM
Mr. Fernando Recio and Mr. Jim Harvey presented the Governor's Energy
Partnership Program designed to promote energy conservation through a grant
to the Department of Energy. The theme for this advertising campaign is
"Save It Florida".
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS PRESENTATION
Mr. Jim Wischmeyer gave a report on the Floodplain Hazard Mitigation
study being conducted by the Department of Community Affairs. He indicated
that he would be contacting district planning personnel for assistance with
Mr. Beville read a letter to John D'Albora expressing appreciation for
his donation of a distri.:t flag to commerate the dedication of the District
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.