Title: Transcripts of interviews conducted by Gwendolen M. Carter, 1972-1985
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SInterview with David Jones A
The Director
The Ford Foundation
Nairobi, Kenya

The discussion with Jones centered on three topics: the Icresat project
in Botswana; the Institute for Deve&opment Studies in Zimbabwe; and
agricultural development in Zimbabwe, including land resettlement.

ICRESAT.
Icrisat reserach covers three major crops: groundnuts, pegeon
peas, and sorghum. The first two are of little importance to Botswana
however the last one is of great importance to the country. Cow peas
are also one of the major tropical xruy arid crops in Botswana. The Summit
gave Botswana the responsibility for agricultural research and Botswana
asked Icresat (check spelling) to set up a station in the country.
Icresat worte a paper which suggested that a station not be set up, but
that the existing research stations in the area be coordinated with other
international agencies. These was some concern about the report, bep
cause Botswana had not asked for a proposal for coordination, they had
asked for a new station to be set up. At this point there seems to be
some rift between those who want new research stations to be established
and those who want to coordinate the activities of those already
in action.

Zimbabwe Institute for Development Studies.
ZIDS is still very much more an idea thin it is an institution.
It does have a charter and it has had t an inaugural seminar, however
it has not staff nor does it have a location. Staff advertisement have
gone out though.
The dev3loment of ZIDS has been a highly political affair, involving
a rivalry between the Ministry of Manpower Development, which was the
brainchild of it s first director, Edgar Tekere and the Ministry of
Economic Develoment and Planning. The latter ministry wanted an institute
which could train civil servants and help to address the manpower shortage
that the government is facing. The former ministry wanted an ideological
indqtitute which would produce ideological research. The cabinet
decision went with Mapnower, and the first Seminar reflected this.
The first seminar that ZIDS held was on SAdcc, and xas attended
primarily by academics. Sadcc was represented, by no one from Mozambique
or Angola came. The Zimbabwe Ministry of Economic Devt did not attend.
The general conclusion of the meeting, according to Jones, was that
of skepticism. Sadoc simply represented a rearrangement of international
capitalism which was ultimately rearranging Southern Africa for its
jown advantage.

Zimbabwe Agriculture
The primary unit of agricultural production in the ?zimbabwe paper
on agtiuultural development is large. This can either private in Zimbabwe
or state owned famwms in other coutnrses. The former
Perm Sec for Agriculture, Osborne, was asked to retire early and was
replaced by Luko Nukawseu. This was after the extension services
has been tfansfered to the Ministry of Lands and resettlement.
The major problem is that of resettlement. It is proceeding at a
snails pace. 7 thousand families resettled so far, 160 thousand
need to be this year alone.

ISAIRCOS Southern Ifrican Institue for Restoration and conservation





Jones p. 2

SSAIRCOS
The Southern African Institute for the Restoration and
Conservation of the Soil. Run from Pretoria and includes the BIS and
Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe wants to withdraw and form a Sadcc organization,
but the Bls countries ase saying no, it works so why
kill it.




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