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Mr. Newton


Read carefully realizing that it is fully
documented but with advice from me to check
any document with photostat number given
if you pursue research.
I do this with everything. I learned years
ago that the translations at best were just
a "dim light" in the dark and one needs to
OQQ 7 THE DOCUMENT"
I have learned many of the proper names
throughout the years in this way.
You will be reading about Isabel Rodri ~es,
her parents, grandparents, her husband her
children.
You will be reading about her first hu band's
family. You will see this compared with the
NAMES in the 1702 Ruined House list.
The comment will carry you from genera ion to
generation. Let me impress upon you that this
is a pa o Which I am sure you
under and. e others take these NAMS and
try to find a key to answers on the house, while
still others try to dig and find found tions, I
will give you the families involved. ;at you lack in
one you may find in another.
All the while trying desperately to fi d some prominent
man in the area with a good basic in f mily, in home
and official connections. Let us remember that Doo Francisco
Menendez Marques lived down here in 17 2 (or owned property
in the area) and that the Adj. Melendez was here, too,
(in the general area of the 750 fee om the Fort)



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Suaming up we ask ourselves these questions:
thatt are w aseekin?
Material, names and data which will
lead us to documents giving some concrete idea
what was on this spot. (No. 85, 1763) Something
to add to the overall picture as a "dig" begins.
Could this have been a house of Mrs. Gonsales?

It may have been a home providedby her
first husband, Bonifacio Gonzales. It may have been
inherited by her from her parents.
Didahe have a big family?
She had at least five children by Pedro
Gonsales but she lost her two by Bonifacio Gonsales.

U inherited from her parents. would. it have been a .arMs house?
It should have been. It had to house 12 children
plus the parents. Four of her mother's four of her father's
and four by her mother and father of which she was one.

AL we heading towards a coaplex like the Avero rouD?
It is too soon to tell until the full section
of Cuna is done and compared with St. George and the block in
question. Sq. "B However, I can clear one thin up now.
ra irMOc cu n No. Sq. "E* 1 n
3 was Juana ones de cas brother. e married n 1753,
I can also tell you that in the next assignment covering Nos.8 l
and 83 Sq. "B", there will be the beginning of inter-relationships
leading across the street.
Who was the Bartolome Montes de Oca found on the Puente 1763 plan
M. 23 inside the .fortifications..?
I take this to be the home of Juana's father, almost directly
in front of his son, Francisco. I say this altho the old man
died in 1752. A complete list of his children(unless the records
are missing) show no junior. There was just one other Montes
de Oca family in town who remained over the same period as Bartolomo,
and both parents had no Bartolome, junior or otherwise. As far as
my records now show there was just the one Bartolome Montes de Oca.
It may be while looking in other sections I may come across a lead
and will speedily send it on but as of now I have just the one.


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Digest 23.,


WIhat does this study cover?

Every available item on Mrs. Gonzales who was
Isabel Rodrigues. Every photostat where available. And
gngmMt to clear up the line as we proceed.

Ihat is the kst PQosible "Drominent" lead in the study?
Unquestionably the family of her let husband,
Bonifacio Gonzales de Villagarcia. Here you have a blending
of the Arguelles and Florencia families, known from the
beginning to be official families. Military men holding
office in the government, on the Governor's staff.
The files of early correspondence are filled with mention
of the Adjutants, the Captain Dons the Treasurer etc...
throughout the years. Even the Parish records tell when
one or the other of the family are officials in some cases.

So if Bonifacio or his parents or grandparents
had anything to do with this area you will have a prominent
note to work on.

The Rodriguez Arsian family was no small deal,
either. But in later years the titles of Ensign, the Ensign
Don, and later the Adjutant Don...came to them...There are
more than half hundred Rodriguez families. Some the very early
ones. This one originated in San Agustin pre 1648 with the
Bnsign Don Jacinto Rodriguez wholmarried into the Arsian family.

In Isabel Rodriguez' direct line, except for this
Bonifacio who was a native, all the men connected with her,
her grandfather, her father and her 2nd husband were all newcomers.
Also her great grandfather. All three great grand, grand and
father were from Castile. Sometimes this was varied with the
use "of Seville"... Her second husband was of Galicia.
low doea all this cmDare. with the 1702 ained House llst?
First, you must remember that Isabel's mother was still
married to Augustin Rodrigues and having a child by him
this year, and next that Jose Antonio Rodrigues, ho was to
be her next husband BEFORE the appraisals were made was either
living with his current wife or living widowed in his own habitation.
Then you must keep in mind that Juana Montes de Oca's grandparents
were alive and her mother, Josefa Rodriguez, had just been born
the year prior, 1701. On Bonifacio's side it would his parents
we have to look for as he was just 3 years old then. And we could
look for both sets of grandparents.





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Digest 3..


In 1702:

ptin~ A9ono A r^ g11-s2 was listed as No. 48.
Note: Just outside the 31 house area
surrounding the Fort...

Possibly up by the Plaza.

CoIrD Francisco AguiaLr was No. 132 on the list.
Note: If comparisons are correct he was
in the south end of town.

Joeas Antonio(Rodrigues)P was No. 14t.
Note: Even beyond Aguilar.

Augastin Rodrigue was No. I 3.
Note: This is ducky! Right next door or across
the street in the extreme south end of town.
Wonder if Jose Antonio was making eyes at
Augustin's wife even then.
For these were the two who were widowed and
married in 1704. Mrs. Augustin and Jose Antonio.

Pedro Eacalona was No. 114 on the list.
Note: This was on Juana Montes de Oca's side
but connected doubly with Isabel's.
Still he was in the south end pass the Plaza
area.(if I am right)

Capt. FrancisxoGoGastles was N o 87,
Note: I have good many reasons to put the 80's and
90's near south St. George and the Bay, near the
School.


GCOMNT: With the possible exception of No. 1 above, Aguelles,.
we have no one near the area upon which research has
been undertaken. (1702) That is not to say they could
not have built after 1708/09 when the town began to
dig out of its ashes.

One thing is absolutely certain. 31 houses were in the
vicinity of the Fort, Assignment No, 3 will deal with this as
we move on to Lorenzo Josef de Leon.
















Names to use when searching for early
SpanIA* records in regard to this property.
No. g5. 1763 Puente. Pedro Gonzales.

1st: ISABEL RODRIGUEZ
PEDRO GONZALES

2nd: BONIFACIO GONZALES
and

3rd: LUIS, SALVADOR, FRANCISCO, MARIA ISADORA
Rodriguez


4th: JOSE ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ
MARIA AGUILAR

5th: AUGUSTIN RODRIGUEZ

6th: FRANCISCO AGUILAR
MARIA RODRIGUEZ ARSIAN


COMMENT:






NOTE:


They
1st,
2nd,
3rd,
4th,
5th,
6th,


are in this order:
the couple themselves
her first husband
her sisters and brothers
her mother and father
her mother's 1st husband
her grandparents


Thru No. 2 it would be well to watch
for anything in GONZALES VILLAGARCIA
if it concerns FRANCISCO, Sr. or Jr.
And keep a watchful eye out for ARGUELLES
if it PRUDENCIA or Don Antonio.

E anor P. Barnes
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Relationship


Ulsn~Isab9k Rg4tlcuez as ea emmon denominator

IsabeI Rorluaez was third cousin of her daughter-
in-law, JMnIa .M2t16de Oca.
Isabel's grandmother and Juana's grandfather were
sister and brother on the Rodriguez-Arsian side.
There was another double relationship here. Isabel's
grandmother's brother, Josef, who was Juana's grandfather's
brother, too, married Juana's grandmother's(Escalonal
sister. Two EBaalonat married two Rodriguez Arsians.
Isabel's half sister, Maria Manuela, on her mother's side
from the 1st marriage, AND sabel's half brother on her
father's side from his first marriage, wed in 1719.
No relation tho they were both RODHIGUEZ.
One was the daughter of Isabel's mother
by Augustine Rodriguez, artilleryman of
Castile...
The other was the son of Isabel's father
by his marriage to Gertrude de Morales.
Isabel was related to Gertrude de Morales by marriage
before her father, Jose Antonio Rodriguez married the
Widow Morales. Gertrude had married Jacinto Rodriguez, Jr.
And had three children by him. He was another of the
brothers of Juana's grandfather and Isabel's grandmother.
So his children were all Isabel's second cousins. She
would have called Gertrude "Great Aunt".
Then Gertrude married, after Jacinto's death, Jose Antonio
Rodriguez, having four children by him. When Gertrude
died Jose Antonio married her former husband's niece,
Maria Aguilar, and Isabel was their daughter.
So her half brothers and sisters on her father's side
were also half brothers and sisters to 1= 2nd cousins.
One of these second cousins, Jacinto, 111, became the
Adjutant Don Jacinto Rodriguez, had a daughter, Maria
who was Isabel's third cousin, and who married Sebastian
Baesa y Penalosa in 1746. Bringing the area very close.











June 1, 1963
ASSIGDM1T No. 1. Genealogical background of Mrs. Pedro Gonzales.

Re: Site northeast corner Cuna and S.f George
Puente Map. 1763 Square "E" No. $5 OWNER: Pedro Gonzales

From: Cathedral Parish Records: Marriages. Baptisgms Burials:
EPB.

1599........................... Juan dias born, May, 1599 Ph. 11

COMMENT: He was son of Luis Dias
And Maria de los Reyes.
MRS. PEDRO GONZALES' great great
grandfather .
1623.......................... Juan Dias married July 8, 1623 Ph. 39
Maria de Arsian. She died 163.

Comment: Father Alonso de Barga
performed the ceremony and Juan de
Cuebo and wife, Dona Catalina de Ortis,
sponsored.
1627.......................... Maria Arsian born, Jan. 3, 1627, Ph. 120

COMMENT: Mrs. Pedro Gonzales' great
grandmother.
She was daughter of Juan Dias
and Maria de Arsian. Captain Melchore
de Orante was her godfather and Father
Toribio de Posada baptised her.
Very usual for children to use name
of mother. Indeed many times uaed names
of grandparents.
1648........................ ..Maria Arsian married Feb. 17, 1648 Ph.26
Jacinto Rodriguez of Castile.
COMMENT: This photostat should be read.
The English brief states "Francesca".
But all baptismal records of children
from 1650 give her full name as Maria Arsian
There were ten children taken from various
baptismal records or picked up on their
marriage records:




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The children of Jacinta Rodriguez and Maria Arsian( in reality Maria
Dias Arsian) were:


Maria, 1650
Jacinto 1651
Juan, 155
Antonio, 1663
Maria Lorenzo, 1666
Juan, 1668
Isabel, 1670

and
Josef
Pedro
Feliciana


All copied from my Index.
No photostat numbers.
But easily checked on English
briefs at Library.


Picked up from marriage records.


COMMENT: To check name of Jacinta(o) Rodriguez
and title of Ensign given see marriages
of children:


On the 1695 marr. the Ensign is
mentioned as deceased.
So between 15 5
the father died. No burial
records for this period.


Antonio 1685 Ph 6
JSeef, 1695, Ph.- 0
Juan, 1679
Jacinta, 18, 15
Jacinta, 1675, s marr. Ph. 117


1650.............................Maria Rodriguez Arsian born. Ph. 14


Mrs. Pedro Gonzales'
grandmother.


COMMENT: This is an Index and
no month and day shown.
She was first child of
the couple above, Ensign
Jacinta Rodriguez and
Maria de Arsian.


1667.............................Maria Rodriguez Arsian married April 20,
1667 Francisco Aguilar. Ph. 83
COMMENT: There was another date
on the margin, Nov. 17, 1667.
Often this was the veiling date
or in some cases a betrothal then
a marriage. There were certain times
during the year that marriages were
performed but veiling was not allowed.
So the veiling "velaronse" came later.
Again Maria Rodriguez Arsian followed





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Comment cont...

.....in the footsteps of her
mother and used Maria de
Arsian. Father Don Francisco
de Sotolonga (or Brother Sotolongo)
performed the ceremony and the Ensign
rancisco Gonzales with Manuel Carballo
stood sponsor. (or witnessed)

1672................... .....Maria Aguilar was born Feb. 17, 1672 Ph. 12

COMMENT: Francisco de Aguilar had
fathered three known children by
Maria Rodriguez Arsian. Sebastian
in 1668, Michaela in 1670 and the
Maria above in 1672.

Immediately aftershe
died but there are no burial records
for this period so we cannot give
the exact date. But her husband Aguilar,
widowed in 1672-73..married again in 1674
Lorenza Hernandez de Soto. So it was
this lady who reared Mrs. PEDRO GONZALES'
mother, the above Maria Aguilar.


Maria Aguilar married 1st. Augustine
Rodriguez, 1693, Ph. 200


COMMENT:


She had 4-known children by him.
Sebastian, (from death record)
Maria Manuela, 1695. Ph. 7
Andres, 1698 Ph. 50
Augustine, 1702., 90.
This last child was born in
August and was only three months
old when the Seige of 1702 began
I do not know but I would not
be surprised if Augustin lost his
life during the seige.
Maria Aguilar was widowed and
Soon re-married.


1704............................. Maria Aguilar married 2nd. Jose Antonio
October 4, 1704, Ph. 239


COMMENT:


Later records showed his name
to be Jose Antonio Rodriguez.
He was native of Seville.
This man JOSE ANTONIO RODRIGUE'
with MARIA AGUILAR were the
parents of Mrs. Pedro Gonzales.


1693..... ........ ......... .......








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Comment...cont..

The family of Maria Aguilar and
Jose Antonio Rodriguez should
come under inspection now.

Isabel was the 1st child and is
our direct line so we give her
photostat number.

1706................... Isabel, Oct. 1, 1706, Ph. 128
Luis, 1709
Salvador, 1710
Francisco, 1713

Jose Antonio Rodriguez had been
previously married althc his marriage
record does not state this. Yet complete
research shows that in 1687 he married
Gertrude de rMorales and they had children
through 1695. Then there is a complete
lack of information on both until he
married the WiJow, Maria Aguilar. 1704.

Both men were referred to as Jose Antonio
then Jose Antonio Rodriguez, both were listed
many times as of Seville and then of Castile.
Add to this that one of his son's married
Maria's daughter b4 her first husband and
that he was "in the family" so to speak
prior to marrying Maria in 1704, AND that
there is only ONE death record of Jose Antonio
and we have the same man.

What Maria Aguilar really did was to marry
Aunt Gertrude's second husband, taking him
as her second mate.

Gertrude de Morales had married the junior
Jacinto Rodriguez, brother of Maria Aguilar's
mother. After his death she married Jose
Antonio and from him had four known children.

So put Maria's four by her 1st husband to
Jose Antonio's four by his first wife and add
the four they had mutually and you have a round
dozen to be supported by Jose Antonio Rodriguez.
It was a case of "your children, my children
and our children"..

To finish off this couple let me say that both
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Comment cont...
1727.................... Maria Aguilar died May 3rd.
Ph. 90
There must have been an epidemic
during the months of April, May
and part of June. Over 100 persons
died in four weeks during one period.
In some cases five or six in a family
in a day. Maria died in the height
of this epidemic.

One of the children listed"small child"
died in Augabtof 1729.
and
1729.....................Jose Antonio Rodriguez died Sept. 14.
Ph. 127
COMMENT: So the couple passed on.
Isabel Rodrigues, Mrs. Pedro
Gonzales' mother and father.

Meantime before their deaths
the children began to marry.
Of Maria's four by the 1st
husband, two were found in
marriages, CPR.

Of Jose Antonio's four by his
1st wife two daughters and one
son married.

Then of their own four children,
our Isabel was the one found.
Before we proceed to her com-
plicated life let me say that
one of Maria's daughters married
Jose Antonio's son.
This was convenient! Both from
same house. ANTCNIO JOSEF RODRIGUEZ
to MARIA MANUELA RODRIGUEZ, 1719.

1728.............................Isabel Rodriguez married lst
June 26, 1728, Ph. 69
Bonifacio Gonzales. One year
and one month after the death
of her mother and one year and
few months prior to the death
of her father. She had
a good marriage here! Bonifacio
was from two fine families.


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COMMENT cont..

Bonifacio, baptised Antonio Bonifacio,
was born May 21, 1699, Ph. 57
His lineage will follow after I complete
this section.

Sept. 1728, four months after Isabel
married Bonifacio, Francesca Gonzales
was born. There must have been another
child as Isabel lost both in 1732.

This was a tragic situation for her.
She lost her mother a year before
marriage, her father a year after.
Feb. 1732 she lost one child, March
31, 1732, Ph. 152, her husband, Bonifacio,
died and April 1732 she lost another child.
Spouse and two children in three months!

Widowed and alone she began looking for
another mate. Let me say here that a footnote
in my Index has me searching for another
possible union. A Benita Aguilar figures
somewhere in Isabel's life. I will find
it and send on.
1733............................. Isabella Rodriguez married 2nd March 2, 1733
Ph. 100 Pedro Gonzales of Maceda, Orena,
Galicia.

COMMENT: I have found five possible
children. The last is in doubt.
Francisco, 1736, Ph. 51
Juan; 1737 Ph
Juan, 1740, 2
Josepha Manuela 1743 Ph. 10
Maria Manuela 1748, 275.
This last had an "Angela Rodrigue" as
mother, may be bad translation. Also
"Gonzales" blotted out. The two Juans
had me confused. Usually it meant death
of one. Odd that in Sept. 1740 in burials
Ph. 250, Angela Rodriguez loses a son.
"small child, son legitimate"...We have
always used the 1737 boy as the mate of
Juana Monts de but it could just
as well be the 174U Juan. I suspect
in confirmation he took name CRISOSTOMO
which crops up on children's records later.

At any rate, Juan Gonzales, son of Pedro
and Isabel, married his fourth cousin, Juana
Montes de tca in Havana and it was she who
returned to her father-in-law's home in 1783.


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Now to run down Juana Montes de Oca since, in part,
she comes from the same family and to unite her to
Juan Gonzales.


1626...................Inez Alvarez was married July 7th.
Ph, 43.
to Bartolome de Reyna.
He died 1636, Ph. 6
1632 .................. Lucia de Reyna was born, March 20.
Ph. 155


Comment: At one point she was
called de la Cruz but this, too, may
be a bad translation of Alvarez.
Her later listings give full name.


1660..................Lucia de Reyna married Feb. Ph. 57
to Pedro Escalona.
There is a July 20, 1659 date
on this as well. Again this may be
betrothal and marriage or veiling.
1664...................Sebastiana Escalona born. Index. Ph. 33
She was their daughter. Called
de Etcalona at times.
1685....................Sebatiana married Sept. 10th. Ph. 163.
ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ ARSIAN.
Here the lines blend..

Comment: Sebastiana moves into the
Rodriguez Arsian family.
She becomes sister-in-law to Mar:
who wed Aguilar.
She would be called aunt by
little Maria Aguilar.


Sebastiana dfl not die until
1734, Feb. 1st. Ph. 172

... Josepha Rodriguez is born.
Ph. 74
Comment: Now little Maria
Aguilar has a let cousin.


... Josepha Rodriguez married
Feb. 25, 1726, Ph. 56
Bartolome Montes de Oca
of Mexico.


1701..l ... s. ..... ..........


1726............. ......... .









JILt Josepha Rodriguez and her cousin,(her second
co'.sin) Isabel Rodriguez, who was nearer her age
than Isabel's mother, married "foreigners"....
Isabel's husband was from Galicia and Josepha's
was from Aexico.


1742......................Juana Montes de Oca was born.
Ph. 84.

At the same general time that
her mother's cousins and her
other families were having
little children she came into
the world.
She grew up with Juan Gonzales
who was her fourth cousin.
Later he was to become her
husband in Havana.

1752......................July 27, Ph. 160 saw-the burial
of Bartolome Montes de Cca.
Juana was but ten years old.


1763 .....................









Juana's brothers
and sisters.

Maria, 1728
vFrancisco, 1729
Juan Josef, 1731
Catalina, 1733
Juan, 1734
Josepha, 1736
iAntonio, 1739
and
Juana herself, 1742.


The last days of the 1st Spanish
period were drawing to a close.
Josepha Rodriguez died that year.
Ph. 305. Now Juana was orphaned.
But she was 21 years of age.
I have often wondered why she
never married here. The girls
married so young. It may be
that this happened and our records
stop too soon.

However, she did marry Juan Gonzales
and have at least 5 children from him.
She it was ho returned to Florida
when the Spaniards came back after
the 20 year residence of the British,
and it was to this location of her
husband's birthplace that she came.

Juana had at least one brother who
returned to Florida, too.
VAntonio Montes de Oca. See Census
1786, No. 4 and Census 1793, No. 72.

She had another brother, Francisco,
who married in Florida-before they
left, to Josefa Ortega, 1753.

A list of her brothers and sisters
at left.


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