November 17, 1999
Present were : Carl Hoefer, Chairman, Robert Hall, secretary, Gordie Wilson,
Carla Wright, Betty Riggan, Charles A. Tingley, Paul Fagundo, Jack Cubbedge,
and Bill Adams
The meeting began at 3:30 in the Government House board room. The Minutes
of the Oct. meeting were accepted.
Mr. Adams had offered the meeting space to us. This had been the traditional place
of our meetings. The group approved the selection.
Copies of the construction details of the Line from the Castillo files were presented
It would appear satisfactory to use these plans again as the work done in 1964 has
held up very well. The plans detail how the "banked" logs were supported and we will
need a similar treatment on the north wall of the redoubt as well as on the curtain wall.
Mr. Cubbege reviewed the construction schedule and recommended that the plans be
turned over to an engineer (rather than an Architect). He suggested that perhaps Mr.
Thomas could write a document for solicitation of engineer qualifications. Then a bid
can be solicited for plans. There is a process that the State/City requires. Mr. Wilson
summarized this in that a engineer review of the Castillo plans may be the best way.
Mr. Cubbege also remarked that a ground survey needed to be done and that the City
now needs to be requesting that ground from the School Board.
The engineer consultant would be coming back to us for a 30% review and then also a
60% review. Mr. Cubbege now needs the Scope of Services Document. The Chair
then suggested that Mr. Adams, Mr. Cubbege, Mr. Thomas and Mr. Hoefer meet as
The issue of an amendment to the easement document which had the "east side" pro-
ject now should add the "west side" was discussed. The City will proceed on this.
Mark Knight, City Staff, presented some information on another city project; the sig-
nage and corridors and transit greenways. He now introduced Fred Halback of the
entrance corridors project. Their work was focused on an "organized visitor experi-
ence". The Heritage Tourism Signage Program would be at the beginning of the pro-
gram in directing the visitor. Present signs have now been inventoried. One issue here
is that the identified corridors in St Augustine are all also D.O.T. roads and must con-
form to the State right -of-way regs.
Some public interviews have been held with "preserving our community culture and
uniqueness" stated as most important. "creating a sense of arrival" was also felt to
be important. We,of the Presidio Commission have felt that our project will be vital to
announcing the cities colonial identity to the visitor.
One result of the study surprised us. It seems that less than 25% of our visitors are
The proposed system of signage was explained by Mr. Halback. It will be in that com-
mittees report. Mark Knight passed out a questionnaire on the transit greenway issue.
The focus would be on the downtown historic district but will eventually be connected
to peripheral systems e. g. World Golf Village, Airport to St Augustine Shores. The
downtown routes will be explained at a 4:30 open house in the Commission room on
Dec. 15. As that is the date of our own meeting we will move ours up to 3:00.
Meeting adjourned at 5:30. Next meeting 3 PM Dec 15,Govt.Hse.