Presidio Commission Members
Date: January 12, 2000
Subj: Agenda for the January 19th, 2000 meeting.
From: Carl Hoefer, Chair J
Attached are the minutes of the December meeting for your review.
Attached also is a copy of the RFP (Request for Proposal) for the project, a result of the
ad hoc meeting of Messrs. Cubbedge, Adams, Thomas and Hoefer. And a time line for the
project as we now see it.
For the January meeting we will be looking at slides regarding:
1. The fortification being built at Darien, GA as a prelude to a day trip to see it.
We are tentatively seeking support for either Jan. 21" or Jan 25". If you want to
go, please let me know at your earliest convenience. We hope to firm up the date
on the 19th.
2. The Cubo Line and other city defenses. We need to put together a 10-15
minute presentation to offer to civic clubs, etc. Please bring any slides you may
have which could contribute. Our need to increase promotion of the project
We also want to discuss the appropriateness of coinciding a ground breaking ceremony
with the Menendez Birthday Celebrations, especially if Spanish dignitaries will be present. Bring
your ideas, please.
Carla & Charles: Please update us on your progress on a new brochure which focuses on
the Cubo Line and Santo Domingo Redoubt.
And we want to discuss fund raising possibilities.
Plus other business you may wish to bring up.
City of St.Augustine,Florida
Meeting of December 16, 1999
Government House Chambers, 3:05
Attending were: Carl Hoefer, Chairman, Robert Hall,Secretary, Ms. Teresa Milam,
Ms. Betty Riggan, Ms. Carla Wright,Dr. Cecile Sastre, Dr. Bill Adams, Mr. Les Thomas
Discussion began regarding a response from the Spanish Ambassador, Ilmo. Senor
Don Juan Romero de Terreros in Washington. The Ambassador suggests contacting
Jose Sancho Roda in Madrid who can be of assistance in confirming our research.
Ms. Milam will respond to the Ambassador that Dr Sastre will be our research person.
Dr. Sastre stated that she will be able to communicate with Roda as well as continue
with her excellent resource in the work of Juan Manuel Zapatero.
Dr. Sastre may be able to give us a summary of what we know now and what else
may need to be done in terms of research with estimated costs beyond the 40 hours
presently offered to the project by N P S .
Dr. Adams spoke to the need to be as sure as possible so that our research does not
appear to be mistaken some years down the road.Absolute certainty may never be
possible because what it looked like above ground cannot always be defined by arche-
ology. Every reconstruction involves conjecture but by this additional research we can
be more certain of our objective.
Dr. Sastre stated that the first Ft. Moultre was similar in construction using palm logs.
We still intend to echo the work done in 1964 by N P S Mr. John Harley, present
N P S maintenance Super was involved in that reconstruction and will be invaluable in
our work. In further comments we learned that Mr. Halbert, City Archeologist, may have
found evidence of the use of facines as additional defense. More digging is needed on
the projected site. There is concern that we do not disturb earlier redoubts as the
first line had six redoubts which have not yet be located.
Dr. Sastre expects to be in Washington in March and may be able to check additional
sources at that time.. She also suggested that we visit the Darien Ga. site where the
State Park Service is now reconstructing the wall connecting the block house. It is
thought incidentlyy, that the palmetto may be native to only the southern states. It does
not seem to be used in South Florida or the Carribean.
We will review our slide collection at the January meeting perhaps adding to it or refin-
ing it. Fund raising will also be discussed. The meeting was adjourned at 4:15.
The next meeting will be at 3:30, January 19th at Government House.