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SAINT VINC IENTI


GOV EL r I\ MEN I


GAZE iTE


SibliMhed b l uthorit .


VOL. 84.] SAINT VINCENT, TUESDAY, 14 AUGUST, 1951.


[No. 42.


GOVERNMENT NOTICES.

No. 374.
VISIT OF HIS EXCELLENCE THE GOVERNOR TO DOMINICA.

His Excellency thl Governor, Brigadier Sir R. D. I-. AIiUNDELL, K.C.M.G.,
O.B.E., left Grenada for Dominica on 11th August, 1951. on an official visit of
about three weeks.
During His Excellency's absence from Grenada, His Ilononr WALLACE
MACMILLAN, Administratorl of Grenada, will be Gr'vei nor";- D puty.
14th August, 1951.
(A. 2/1950).


No. 375.
HURRICANE NOTICES.

It is hereby notified for general
information that m the event of a
hurricane threatening or approaching
the Island, the following warning will
be given:-
WARNING THAT A HU-RICAINE iS
THIIEATENL'D.
Day or Night.
Church bells in towns and villages will
ring for one period of three minutes.
HURRICANE APPROACHING THE
ISLAND.
Day or Night.
Church bells in towns and villages will
ring for two periods of three minutes
with an interval of 10 minutes.


F'OR SHIPPING IN KINGSTOWN
HARBOUR.
Day.
A white flag with a black centre will
be flown from the Police Barracks.
Day or Night.
A siren will be blown from the Police
Barracks.
14th August, 1951
!W. 25/1949).

No. 376.
LAND ARRANGEMENTS.
I.-ANNUAL.
'Non-Commissioned Officers in charge
of Police Stations throughout the
parishes outside of Kingstown are Hur-


Srcane Relefei Ocers. hney are to oe
Note:-In order to avoid conuiision ii2 in constant touch with the District
time ot commencement of rgiing Committees and must render them
the bells is to be taken from thU useful service in hurricane condi-
Church nearest to the Police Station tions. They are to keep a list of local
in each town or village. Justices of the Peace and of persons


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226 SAINT VINCENT, TUESDAY, 14 AUGUST, 1951.-No. 42).


who may suitably be enrolled as Special I
Constables should the necessity arise.
II.--HURRICANE WARNINGS.
The Cable and Wireless Company Ltd.
gives priority to hurricane warnings, and
communicates them at once to the Ad-
ministrator and to the Government Sec-
retary who will then notify the Colonial
Treasurer and the Superintendent of
Police.
'On receipt of such a warning the
Government Secretary also informs all
other Heads of Departments, and the
Superintendent of Police immediately re-
lays such warning to Non-Commissioned
Officers in charge of Police Stations.
From the time a hurricane warning
is received, the Hurricane Relief Com-
mittees are to take charge generally of
the Districts. They will at once get in
touch with the Police in their Districts
and the officers mentioned in the follow-
ing paragraphs; they are to be ready to
organise relief work with the Medical
Department, to disseminate all informa-
tion; to make arrangements for food sup-
plies; to make arrangements for centres
for first aid for the injured, for housing
and feeding the poor and for transport.
III.-ACTION TO BE TAKEN AFTER WARNING
ISSUED.
The Superintendent of Police will
warn all Non-Commissioned Officers in
charge of Police Stations, and they in
turn warn inhabitants, ships in the har-
bour, &c.
All Departments will batten down and
secure loose stores.
The Superintendent of Public Works
will get in touch with Road Overseers
and they and the drivers and gangs will
be on the alert.
The Superintendent of Telephones
will get in touch with all linesmen, and
arrange with all Exchanges for the
discrimination of warnings.


IV.-A-VTER THE HURRICANE.
After the hurricane is over, the Re-
lief Committees will decide on what
buildings can be used as first aid sta-
tions and for housing and feeding des-
titute.
Relief Committees will arrange in con-
junction with District Medical Officers
for transport of injured to first aid sta-
tions.
Relief Committees will arrange to
shelter the homeless and for their feed-
ing.
Relief Committees will issue food (if
they have taken charge of local supplies),
to first aid stations on demand by Dis-
trict Medical Officers.
V.-ACTION IN KINGSTOWN.
In Kingstown all action, as indicated
above, will be carried on by the
Kingstown District Committee, save
that the Treasurer, the Controller of Sup-
plies the Superintendent of Agriculture
and the Labour Commissioner will be in
charge of food supplies, and the Superin-
tendent of Police will be in charge of the
collection and protection of the homeless.
VI.-ST. VINCENT GRENADINES.
The District Officer, St. Vincent Gren-
adines and/or the individual Relief
Committees will take any necessary
action in the islands in hurricane con-
ditions.
VII.-RETURNS.
The Colonial Treasurer, the Senior
Medical and Health Officer, the Super-
intendent of Police and the Superin-
tendent of Public Works will render a
return annually to the Administrator
on the 1st July to the effect that their
preparations with regard to hurricane
arrangements are up to date and in
order.
14th August, 1951.
(W. 25/1949).


No. 377.


HU. 1-IC-CA Nk RELIEF COMMITTEES.


A. In the event of a hurricane visiting this Island it is essential that the
relief work be inaugurated at once. The Central Hurricane Committee Is
composed of:-
His Honour the Administrator, Chairman,
Hon'ble Colonial Treasurer,
Controller of Supplies,
The Venerable Archdeacon R. S. Maxwell,
Rev. J. B. Broomes,
Rev. Father Gualbert van der Plas, O.S.B., P.P.,
A. G. Hazell, Esquire.
A. C. Cyrus, Esquire.
Secretary, Mr. H. H. Williams, Senior Clerk, Government
Office.














SAINT VINCENT, TUESDAY, 14 AUGUST, 1951.-(No. 42). 227


B. The District Committees are as folows:-


CHATEAUBELAIR DISTRICT embrac-
ing Chateaubelair, Rose Bank, Trou-
maca, Westwood, Rose Hall

BARROUALLIE DISTRICT embracing)
Cumberland, Spring, Wallilabou, Peters
Hope and Mt., Wynne


LAYOU DISTRICT embracing Layou,
Vermont, Francois, Clare Valley, Du-
bois, Chauncey, Questelles, Lowmans,
Camden Park

KINGSTOWN DISTRICT embracing
Kingstown, Sion Hill, Arnos Vale,
Edinboro, Bowood, &c.



CALLIAQUA DISTRICT embracing Cal-
liaqua, Belair, Stubbs, Gomea


MESOPOTAMIA DISTRICT embracing
Mesopotamia, Richland Park, Hope-
well, Enhams, Evesham

COLONARIE DISTRICT embracing Co-
lonarie, Friendly Village, Biabou,
Bridgetown, Greggs, Lowmans, New
Adelphi, Diamond, Lauders, &c.


GEORGETOWN DISTRICT (from Dry
River going South to Colonarie
Boundary)

GEORGETOWN DISTRICT (from Dry)
River going North to Fancy)


UNION ISLAND


BEQUIA



CANOUAN



MAYREAU


Rev. T. J. Furley, Chairman,
J. Providence, Esquire,
J. A. Tucker, Esquire, J.P.,
Clairmonte Providence, Esquire.
Revd. F. Augustine Smartt,
Chairman,
Revenue Officer, Barrouallie,
G. M. Sandy, Esquire,
The District Nurse.
Revd. F. B. Jones, Chairman,
Wilfred Alexander, Esquire
J. Punnett, Esquire,
Langley Punnett, Esq.
Cyril Velox, Esquire.
The Chairman of the Kingstown
Board, Chairman,
Hon'ble O. D. Brisbane,
Hon'ble S. G. DeFreitas,
C. Bute, Esquire,
Stanley deFreitas, Esquire,
M.A. (Oxon.), Chairman,
Clive Williams, Esquire,
A. G. Nanton, Esquire, J.P.,
John A. Dougan, Esquire.
J. D..Punnett, Esquire, Chairmani
W. Davis, Esquire,
A. D. Drayton, Esquire, J.P.,
Miss Ursula DaCosta,
The District Nurse.
Hon'ble W. Hadley, J.P., Chairman,
The Senior Agricultural Officer of
the District
Capt. Alban DaSantos, J.P.,
Revd. E. Augustus Pitt, B.D.
Chairman.
Percy Stephens, Esquire, J.P.,
G. V. Ballantyne, Esquire, J.P.,
R. L. Otway, Esquire,
J. Everard Richards, Esq., J.P.
W. H. Barnard, Esquire, Chairman,
Lawrence Jackson, Esquire,
Ernest Punnett, Esq.
The District Officer, St. Vincent
Grenadines, Chairman,
Joseph Alves, Esquire, J.P.
Prince Clouden, Esq.
Sydney McIntosh, Esq., J.P.
Chairman,
Cyril McIntosh, Esquire,
Claude Hazell, Esquire,
Dawson Wallace, Esquire.
The Senior Agricultural Officer,
Chairman,
Mrs. Theresa Antrobus,
Lawrence Brereton, Esquire.
Whitfield de Roche, Esq.
The Froprietor of Mayreau (or his
Agent), Chairman,
The Head Teacher, Govt. School,
Mayreau.
To be dealt with through the Cen-
tral Committee, Kingstown, in
consultation with the District
Officer, St. Vincent Grenadines
if possible by radiophone.


}





I


OTHER GRENADINES


NOTE:-The other Grenadines will be dealt with from St. Vincent.













228 SAINT VINCENT, TUESDAY, 14 AUGUST, 1951.-(No. 42).


G. The following is a summary of
the instructions issued to the Commit-
tees.
1. In the event of a hurricane strik-
ing this Island the Chairman of each
District Committee will act at once wita-
out further orders or instructions and
inaugurate such immediate relief work
as he considers the exigencies of the
situation demand, inclusive of a tempor-
ary hospital and first aid stations. He
will immediately summon his Committee
and collect the following information:--
(a) Number of persons killed.
,, seriously wounded.
slightly wounded, requir-
ing medical attention.
(b) ,, of persons destitute.
(c) ,, of houses totally des-
troyed.
partially destroyed and
unfit for habitation.
(d) What food is required immedi-
ately.
(e) What clothes are required imme-
diately.
(f) What medical stores are required
immediately.
2. When possible the seriously wound-
ed will be transferred into Kingstown

No. 378.
LEAVE NOTICES.

VACATION AND DUTY LEAVE.

Mr. A. V. KING, Assistant Govern-
ment Secretary, has been granted vaca-
tion and duty leave from 11th August,
1951, to proceed to the United Kingdom
to pursue a Course of training under
the Colonial Development and Welfare
(Devonshire) Second Course Training
Scheme for Colonial Officers, 1951/52.
Mr. KING left the Colony on 10th
August for Trinidad en route to, the
United Kingdom.
14th August, 1951.
(P. F. 33).


No. 379.


VACATION LEAVE.


Miss OLGA STEPHENS, Dispenser,
Georgetown, one month's vacation leave
with effect from 21st July. 1951.
14th August, 1951.
(P. F. 301).

No. 380.
Miss JOYCE E. THOMPSON, Junior
Clerl< (Medical Department), 2 months'
3 weeks'vacation leave, with effect from
9th August, 1951.
14th August, 1951.
(P. F. 357).


where they will be met by a Police Con-
stable on point duty. He will direct
them to the hospital or temporary hos-
pital as the case may be. The slightly
wounded will be kept in each district
at first aid stations.
Central kitchens will be established
in each district to cope with the imme-
diate demand for food relief.
3. Should the roads be blocked so
that communication with the District
Chairman is not possible each member
of the Committee will act on his own
initiative and organise relief parties to
clear the roads and give first aid until
such times as he can communicate with
the Chairman.
In this event each member of a Com-
mittee will send a written statement
to the Committee as required in 1 (a)
to (f), transmitting a copy as soon as
possible to the Chairman of the Com-
mittee,
4. The first duty of a Committee is
to see that roads are cleared at once
so that communication can be estab-
lilshed.
14th August, 1951.
(W. 25/1949).

No. 381.
APPOINTMENTS.

Mr. MILTON F. MORGAN, as a Junior
Clerk in the General Clerical Service
of the Colony, with effect from 1st
January, 1951.
Mr. MORGAN is assigned for duty in
the Customs branch of the Treasury &c.
Department.
14th August, 1951.
tP. F. 473).

No. 382.
Miss THELMA Cox, as an Assistant
Librarian, Public Library, with effect
from 1st July, 1951.
14th August, 1951.
(P. F. 539).

No. 383.
RESUMPTION.

Miss K. E. WILLIAMS, formerly
seconded to posts under the former
Colonial Development & Welfare Scial
Welfare Scheme, has resumed her sub-
stantive pensionable appointment in the
General Clerical Service as from lst
August, 1951.
Miss WILLIAMS is assigned for duty
in the Education Office and will continue,
in ad lition. to carry out duties connected
with the organisation and formation of
Women's and Girls' Clubs for which














SAINT VINCENT, TUESDAY, 11 AUGUST, 1951.-(No. 42). 389


provision exists under Colonial Develop-
ment & Welfare Scheme D. 13.99-Pub-
lic Relations and Local Government.
14th August, 1951.
(P. F. 111)-

No. 384.
Mr. ERROL E. COMMA, Draughtsman-
Builder, Public Works Department, who
was on 6 weeks' vacation leave from
2nd July, 1951, resumed his duties on
13th August, 1951.
14th August, 1951.
(P. F. 273).

No. 385.
NOTICE OF BRITISH NATURALI-
SAT ION.

Notice is hereby given that Dr. & Mrs.
MACIEJ ZWIERZ of Pembroke, St. Vin-
cent, British West Indies, are applying
to the Home Secretary for naturalisation,
and that any person who knows any
reason why naturalisation should not be
granted should send a written statement
of the facts to the Administrator, St.
Vincent, British West Indies.
14th August, 1951.


No. 386.


LEGISLATION.


The following document is publish-
ed with this issne of the Gazette:--
S.R. & O.No. 80.-The Prices Control
(Amendment No. 27) Notice,
1951.
(T. 20/1949).
14th August, 1951.


No. 387.
SUPPLEMENTS TO GAZETTE.

The Accounts of the Colony for the
period 1st January to. 30th April, 1951,
are published with this issue of the
Gazette.
14th August, 1951.

No. 388.
Copies of minutes of meetings of the
Legislative Council held on the 1st
March, 5th April and 3rd May, 1951,
which may also be seen at the Govern-
ment Office, Kingstown Library, and at
all Revenue Offices and District Post
Offices, are published with this issue of
the Gazette.
14th August, 1951.


No. 389.
VACANT POST.

POST OF DENTAL SURGEON, GRENADA.

Applications are invited for the pen-
sionable post of Dental Surgeon for the
Colony of Grenada. The salary of the
post is at the rate of $2680 per annum
plus cost of living allowance at the
approved rate. At present the cost of
living allowance is at the rate of $240
per annum, but this is likely to be in-
creased in the near future. A travelling
allowance at the rate of $810 per annum
is payabe.
A Salaries Revision will shortly be
undertaken and the salary of the post
of Dental Surgeon will le considered
with other salaries of Government offi-
cials. The Dental Surgeon will be
attached to the Medical Department, and
will be immediately responsible to the
Senior Medical Officer. His duties will
be of an island-wide nature and will irn-
clude free dental treatment to necessi-
tous children attending Primary Schools
and such persons as are entitled to free
medical aid under the Medical Officers
Ordinance.
Private practice may be underiaken
before and after normal office hours
which are 8.30 a.m. to 4 p.m. each day
of the week except Saturday when the
closing hours are 12 noon.
Equipment is provided by Govern-
ment as follows :-
A completely fitted surpgry and wait-
ing room are provided at the Health
Centre, St. George's and Mobile equip-
ment is provided to enable extractions
to be performed in the rural areas.
Applications with complete details of
qualifications should be submitted to
the Government Secretary, Grenada, to
reach him not later than August 21st.
(A. 15/1950).

By Command,

BERNARD GIBBS,
Assistant Administrator.

GOVERNMENT OFFICE,
14th August, 1.951.


DEVELOPMENT OF MONTROSE ESTATE.

THIRD SUPPLEMENTARY SCHEME.

].. D :...n. .'',i, ..fScheme. The Scheme
set out hereunder shall be designated
THE MONTROSE THIRD SUPPLE-
MENTARY SCHEME.














.230 SAINT VINCENT, TUESDAY, 14 AUGUST, 1951.-(No. 42).


2. Area Covered by Scheme. The area
covered by the Scheme shall comprise-
All that parcel of land being a portion
of Montrose Estate lying between the
road to Dasent Cottage otherwise known
as "Havoc House" on the West and
Montrose River on the Eastand bounded
on the North by a line running in an
Easterly direction from a concrete monu-
ment opposite the entrance to Havoc
House to a concrete monument on the
bank of the North Rtiver and on the
South by a pipeline track leading to
Montrose reservoir.
3. Streets. Every street shall have a
width of not less than 21 feet of which
the carriageway shall not be less than 16
feet in width.
Streets shall be drained, maca-
damised and oiled.
4. Building Lots. Lots shall be offer-
ed for sale at ten cents per square foot
payable on such terms and conditions as
the Central Authority may determine.
(ii) No lot shall be less than 5,000
square feet. A purchaser shall have the
option of purchasing two adjoining lots.
(iii) No lot shall be sub-divided.
.5. Building Line. No part of alny
building shall be nearer than 21 feet from
the centre of the main road leading to
"Havoc House."
(ii) No part of any building shall be
nearer than 21 feet from any street built
by the Central Authority for providing
access to buildings.

6. Building Regulations.
(i) A person intending to erect, re-
move or alter a building shall
give notice of such intention to
the Central Authority in dupli-
cate on the prescribed form
which shall be accompanied by a
complete set of drawings of the
proposed building. No building
operation shall be undertaken
until the plans are approved.
(ii) All houses shall be built of
masonry (i.e. stone), concrete,
concrete blocks or bricks and
covered with slates, tiles, metal,
asbestos shingles or other incom-
bustible material.
(iii) The size, design and colour of
any building shall be subject to
the approval of the Central
Authority.
(iv) Water closets shall be installed
in every case and no other form
of privy shall be allowed.
(v) All lots shall be suitably enclosed
and the materials used shall be
subject to the approval of the
Central Authority.


(vi) In all other respects the Kings-
town Board (Buildings) Bye-
laws, 1947, shall apply.
7. Lighting. The area shall be provid-
ed with street lights when a sufficient
supply of electricity is available.
8. Water Supply. Water shall be
supplied by the owners from mains laid
in the area.
9. Prohibited Undertakings. No dry
goods store, shop, parlour or other place
where food is sold shall be established
or conducted without the approval in
writing of the Central Authority.
10. Persons to Rectify Departures from
the Regulations i/ Called Upon by the
Executive Oficer to Do So. (i) Any
Authorised Person who executes work to
which any of the Regulations apply and
who receives notice from the Executive
Officer in writing, at any time during
the progress or after the completion of
the work specifying any matters in re-
spect of which the erection or execution
may be in contravention of these Regu-
lations, and requiring such person with-
in a time specified, to cause anything
done contrary to any of these Regulations
to be amended, or to do anything which
by any such Regulations may be required
to be done, but which has been omitted
to be done, shall, within the time speci-
fied, comply with the several require-
ments and shall deliver to the Executive
Officer within a reasonable time, a notice
of the completion of such work.
(ii) In case of non-compliance with
the requirements of the aforesaid notice,
it shall be lawful for the Authority to
execute the works required and to re-
cover the cost from the defaulting party
as a civil debt.



Made by the Central Housing and
Planning Authority under the provisions
of the Town and Country Planning
Ordinance this 12th day of July, 1951.

JOHN L. CHAPMAN,
Secretary,
Central Housing & Planning
Authority.

E. D. B. CHARLES,
Chairman,
Central Housing & Planning
Authority.

Approved by the Governor-in-Council
this 2nd day of August, 1951.

A. V. KING.
Clerk of Executive Council.














SAINT VINCENT, TUESDAY, 14 AUGUST, 1951.-(No. 42). 231


CENTRAL HOUSING AND PLANNING
AUTHORITY.

Camden Park Housing Scheme.

1. Designation of Scheme. The scheme
set out hereunder shall be designated
the Camden Park Housing Scheme.
2. Area of Scheme. The area covered
by the Scheme shall comprise all that
portion of land being a part of Camden
Park Estate known as Mahoe" and
bounded on the North and East by lands
of Camden Park Estate, on the South by
the Leeward Highway and on the West
by an Estate Road.
3. Objects of Scheme. The objects of
the Scheme are to-
(i) make available to persons of the
working class, residing in and
around Camden Park, freehold'
building plots at a price of one
cent per square foot payable by
instalments over a period of
three years ;
(ii) make advances of building
materials to holders of plots to
enable them by self help and
comr unity effort to remove and
re-e ct, repair, alter and/or add
to existing dwellings or construct
new- dwellings-the said advan-
ces L-eing recoverable under the
pro, isions of the Slum Clearance
and Housing Ordinance, 1946,
or by other legal process ;
(iii) require that every plot holder
shall purchase from the Autho-
rity one bore hole latrine unit
at a cost of six dollars. The
Authority shldl bore the hole
and instal the latrine seat and
foot plate but the plot holder
shall be responsible for erecting
the superstructure.
4. Disposition of building Plots. (1)
No person shall be allowed to
purchase more than one building
plot unless he le a shopkeeper
when lie might purchase in
additional plot for the purpose
of his business.
(2) No plot shall be sub-divided.
(3) No plot shall contain more than
one dwelling house with kitchen,
bath and latrine as outhouses.
No other houses will he allowed
except with the permission of
the Executive Officer of the
Auth ority.
5. Building Regu, nations. The Public
Health (Buildings) Regulations, 1946,
shall apply but shall be revised in the
following respects-


(i) No building plot shall be less
than 3000 square feet.
(ii) Every plot shall have access to a
public road.
(iii) No building or structure of any
kind including kitchens, stables,
pens, etc. shall be erected or
re-erected in advance of the
erection of the dwelling house
without the approval of the
Executive Officer of the Au-
thority.
(iv) No building or structure of any
kind shall be covered with trash,
grass or other material not ap-
proved by the Central Authority.
(v) No outhouses shall be occupied
for living or sleeping purposes.
6. Persons to Rectify Departures from
the Regulations if called upon by the
Executive Oficer to do so. (1) Any
Authorised Person who executes work
to which any of the Regulations apply
and who receives notice from the Exe-
cutive Officer in writing, at any reason-
able time during the progress or after
the completion of the work specifying
any matters in respect of which the
erection or execution may be in contra-
vention of these Regulations, and re-
quiring such person within a time
specified, to cause anything done con-
trary to any of these Regulations to be
amended, or to do anything which by
any such Regulations may be required
to be done, but which has been omitted
to be done, shall, within the time
specified, comply with the several re-
quirements and shall deliver to the
Executive Officer within a reasonable
time, a notice of the completion of such
work. (ii) In case of non-compliance
with the requirements of the aforesaid
notice, it shall be awful for the Autho-
rity to execute the works required and
to recover the cost from the defaulting
party as a civil debt.
7. Roads. No road shall be less than
16 feet in width.
8. (Oergrowlfh of' B'ush and Trees.
With a view to preventingan overgrowth
of bush and trees and as a means of
promoting tie amenitiess of the area, no
person shall be allowed to plant any
standing tree -which produces heavy
foliage without tlhe permission in writ-
ing of the Central Authority provided
that nothing herein stated shall apply to
flowering or ornalnertal trees.



Made hr t1 e Central Housing and
Planniing Auth ority under the provisions













kINT.T VIFNIENfi, TURJJJI1A Y. 14 AXUiST-, 1951.-(N-o. 42).


Ofk the Stm aa learance and, Housing subjects commencing in the Michalibas-
Ordinance this IStht of eay JiJly, 1951. Term of 1951.
S.JOHN- L. CBIAPMAN, These classes wiJU t first, be directed
Secretary, to preparii$ students for the Qambridge
Central. Fgq g,4. SchooF C~rtificate Examination. The
S'la ny Athority. Cambridge Syndicate has agreed to ac-
,i h t. c; oept students ftom these Evening Class-
E. D.. B. -.HRL S, es. as private candidates for this exami-
SCha irman, nation provided: each candidate i*
Gt~tral, J osing & vgiWed fo~ by the: Educatioi Officer
Pmli n~g Authority. 4 having been, suitaby prepal ed. The
SQas,,s to be started will prqparei cai.di--
.,tes f or the 1952, Examination.
Approved by the Gover noi-in;Council Students whoi wish to sit for t0is
tB 2nd day of Auguiqt, 1951. Ipxamiation, are invited toq enrol ak the
A. V. I KNG epartmeit of Educatipn whe1e,suaitalbt
Glrkic: of Egetiy ive( Council. forms may be obtained..
a_______ Cass, in the fo llowiiig subj,qt-s will
be offered--provided tutors. pan b,. oqb
DEPAI TMENTAL AND tained-English Laiguage, English Li-
I ?ER 1 ICES: terature, Religious Knowledge, History,
Geography, Elementary Mathematics,.
D~- Hygiene aind' Physiology, French, Latin.
ODF PAiR NT{ OF EUCAT1O,. All candidates for the School Certifi-
cate must offer English Language and
GRAMMAR SCHOOL, ST. VNOiEN'Tl five, six, seven, or eight other subjects.
Advice with regard to choice of subjects
Appl s a d fo will be, given by the Department.
Appication inv the. poft Classes will be either at School Certi-
ofaLend tw Master fr Genermaical S et sr ficte level or at Junior level. Students-
and two Masters for General S'ubj~ecst s.
an 1w M r ,or en -t -will be placed in the School Certificate
2. The MathpImatical a1aster will bye lass or the Junior Class in accordance
r.quirqd tp t.ach Ma.thematic. ajnd the with their present academic standing..
Science Master to, tagch. Chemist. aqd Students who are good enough to be
Botany,. up to, the Higher School Cer~ti- placed in the School Certificate class
ficate Standard. will be prepared for the 1952 Examina--
3. Applicants shoulidi e lG aduates.or, tion, those who are placed in the Junior
holder t o.f the Iltev, Arts or, Imter class will be prepared for the 1953
Science or Higher School Certificates. Examination.
The salaries offered are:- Students will be expected to pay $1.00
(a) For Graduates $1440 by $96. to per subject per term. That is, a student
$1520 who intends to tahe say, seven subjects:
(b) For Inter Arts etc. $1200 by $72 to for his examinations will pay seven
$144-0. dollars per term for instruction in the
The commencing salaries will depend seven subjects. Students will also be
on experience and standard of work. expected to provide their own text.
4. Ability to take charge of the Cadet books and writing materials. Enrol-
Cors will be taken into consideration. ments will also be accepted from Stu-
Cos dents who do not wish to take the
5. Application should reach the Educa- School Certificate Examination but
tion Office as soon as possible, as the wish to take one, two or more of the-
successful candidates will be expected subjects offered.
to assume duty at the beginning of next It is hoped that in time classes in
Term on 10th September. commercial subjects will be offered.
C. V. D. HADLEY, The classes are open to all members-
Education Officer. of the general public who wish to im-
h A 1 prove their educational qualifications.
7th August, 1951. There is no age limit for candidates
(A. 47/1950). taking the Sclool Certificate at Oversea
Centres. Whether the classes prove to
EVENING CLASSES. be a success or not will depend mainly
on the desire of members of the public-
NOTICE TO PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS. for further education, and on the will--
. ingness of suitably qualified persons to
It is the intention of the Department become tutors.
of Education to organise a series of All prospective students are requested
Evening Classes in Secondary School to enrol at the Department of Education-















SAINT VINCENT, TUESDAY, 14 AUGUST, 1951.-(No. 42). 233


as soon as possible where further infor-
mation can be obtained,

C. V. D. HADLEY,
1.,i, .tr,, Officer.
Education Office,
St. Vincent,
2nd August, 1951.
(A. 47/1950).


BAIN GRAY PRIZE GRAMMAR
SCHOOL, 1951.

The Essay for the BAIN GRAY Prize
will be written on Saturday 15th
September.
Subject :-Citizenship.
Time ) a.m.-12 (noon).
W. M. LOPEYT,
Headmaster.
Grammar School,
10th July, 1951.


SAINT VINCENT.

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE
WINDWARD ISLANDS AND
LEEWARD ISLANDS.
(Summary Jurisdiction)
A.D. 1951.

Suit No. 9/1951
Between


JAMES MASCOLL
and
BERTIE GABRIEL
LEAH GABRIEL


Plaintiff


Defendants.


NOTICE is hereby given that on Satur-
day the 1st day of September, 1951, be-
tween the hours of 12 o'clock noon and
3 p.m., there will be put up for sale at
the Court House in Kingstown the
undermentioned goods and chattels the
property of the abovenamed Dcfenldants
BERTIE GABRIEL AND LEAII GAIA.1L
levied upon by virtue of a writ, nr
seizure and sale issued in the abovh
suit:-
One house, sides boarded and the roof
covered with galvanize iron and
shingles, situated at Dorsetshire
Hill, in St. George's Parish.

Dated this 28th day of July, 1951.

D. ELSON WEEKS,
Acting Registrar Supreme Court.

REGISTRAR'S OFFICE,
KINGSTOWN,
ST. VINCENT.


AGRICULTURAL NOTICE.



FLOWER SEEDS.



It is hereby notified for general infor-
mation that a new shipment of the
following varieties of flower seeds has
arrived ;nd will be on sale at the office
of the Department of Agriculture on
such days between the hours of 9 a.m.
and 12 noon and from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m.
at the following prices :-


Balsam-Lady Slipper 26c.
Begonia-Prima Donna 44c.
Calliopsis-Crimson King 18c.
Canterbury Bells Mixed 26c.
Carnation Dark Red 44c.
S Pink 44c.
White 44c.
Yellow 44c.
Dianthus Double Mixed 26c.
Hollyhock-Ever
Blooming 26c.
Heliotrope Lemoine's
Giant Hybrid Mixed 44c.
Petunias Mixed Colors 44c.
Nasturtium Dwarf Double
Mixed 26c.
Phlox Mixed Colors 26c.
Zinnias Giant Dahlia
Flowered Mixed 26c.


per pkt.


H. S. McCONNIE,
Acting Superintendent of
Agriculture.

7th August, 1951.




SAINT VINCENT CO-OPERATIVE
ARROWROOT ASSOCIATION.



Notice is hereby given tha;i a General
'iingi of the Saint Vinceiil C'o-Opera-
tivr Arrowroot Association will be held
at the Council Chamber, Court House,
Kingstown, at 10 a.m. on 31st August,
1951, for the purpose of electing fifteen
Delegates who will in turn elect six
members to serve on the Arrowroot
Board for the Arrowroot Year com-
mencing 1st October next.

C. BABER ISAACS,
Secretary.


KINGSTOWN,
1st August, 1951.














234 S INT VINCENT, TUESDAY, 14 AUGUST, 1951.-(No. 42).


TREASURY NOTICE.

LAND AND HOUSE TAX NOTICE.

Notice is hereby given that the undermentioned persons having become
defaulters under the Land and House ,Tax Ordinance" their properties having
bIen levied upon will be offered for Sale at 12 o'clock noon on Saturday, 1st
September, 1951, at the Treasury for the,recovery of Taxes due thereon.
V. D. ARCHER,
Colonial Treasurer.
TREASURY,
ST. VINCinNT,
8th Angust, 1951.


Names


Emmans, Louisa
Williams, Randolph
Samuel, Estella


William, Phillip
Stephen, John


Peters, Christiana


Parsons, Theodore E.


itat.:.', of Property

... Clare Valley
... Montrose
... Vermont,

DISTRICT IV
... Convent
... Teshet Spring

DISTRICT V
Coull's'Hill

DISTRICT II
Carriere Village


Description of Property

3 Roods
.. 1House Spot
S1 House


... 5 Acres
... 1 House Spot


S1 H,use ,Spot


...4 Acres.


PRINTED BY THE GOVERNMENT PRINTER AT THE GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE,
KINGSTOWN, ST. VINCENT.
[ Price 24 cepty. ]





SAINT VINCENT.
Comparative. Statement of Revenue for the period 1st January-30ti April, 1951.


Heads of Revenue.


S1. Import Duties--
Import Duty
Trade Duty on Imported Liquor
Warehouse Rent
2. Export Duty
3, Excise Duty on Rum
S Excise Duty on Mugar
Trade Duty on locally distilled Liquor
4. Other Duties
5. .Licences--Liquor
Motor Vehicles, &c.
Other
6. Taxes-
Income Tax
Land and House Tax
Other Taxes
7. Port and Harbour Dues-
Tonnage
Port '
Landing Dues, Aircraft
8. Other Fees of Court, &c.
9. Post Office
1Q. Electricity, Telephone, Refrigeration.
11. Rent of Government Property
Interest
12. Sales.and Leases of Crown Lands

11B. Refunds of Loans from General Revenue

13."- Colonial Development and Welfare Schen
Total Revenue


Estimate
for the Actual Revenue Revenue for
ear for tle period of same period of
year the return, preceding year.
195 1.


$
.. 475,000
... 14,000
... 5,000
... 128,000
... 130,000

... 40,000
... 26,700
... 10,000
... 17,000
... 7,750.

.., 212,000
.30,000
S15,000

... 10,000
.. 3,000
650
... i41,577
61,213.
.. 99,352
... 4,560
... 12,764
.. 7.458
1,451,024
1,804
1,452,828
mes 295,452
$ 1,748.280


$ c.
162.817 41
4,139 05
1,707 19,
43,988 95
48,759 78

15,929 86
16,131 23
4,628 60.
7,689 20
6,944 66

18,121 05
3,328 55
5,222 47

2,943 46
996 30
120 00
41,453 02
25,188 84
31,792 81
973 28
5,788 68
992 .00
449,656 39
667 00
450,323 39
69.774 78
520,098 17


$ c.
153,215 58

1,234 39
42,157 93
39,747 06
736 73
19,610 35
9,493 84
4;371 76
5,817 92
5,370 58

3,830 30
2,254 07
1,180 88

3,631 54-
932 70
84 00
37,540 88
20,336 76
28,005 28
1,317 49
5,807 26
935 05
387,612 35
6,828 69
394,441 04
136,650 64
531.091 68


Increase.


$ c.
9,601 83

472 80
1,831 02
9,012 72

458 56
6,637 39
256 84
1,871 28
1,574 08

14,290 75
1,074 48
4,041 59


63 60
36 00
3,912 14
4,852 08
3,787 53


56 95


Decrease. -. :


* $




736 ..
736
...


...


688





344.
18


63,831 64 1,787 60
... ... 6,161 69
63,831 64 ~7,4 -.1-
... 6,875 '86
63,831 64 74,825 15


Comparatie Statement of Expenditure for the period 1st January-3Oth April, 1951.


Heads of Ixpenditure.


Estimate
for the
year
1951.


1. Governor ...
2. Legislature
., Administration .
4. Agriculture
5. Audit
6. Central Housing Authority ..
:6A. Central Road Authority
6B. Central Water Authority
7. Charitable
9. Education
S10. Electricity
11. Judicial .
12. Labour
13. Lands and Survey
14. Legal..
15. Medical
16. Miscellaneous
17. Pensions
18. Police
19. Port and Marine
20. Post Office
21. Prisons
22. 'Public Debt
23. Public Library .
24. Public Works Department
25. Public Works Recurrent
2:7. Social Welfare
27A. St. Vincent Grenadines
28. Subventions ...
29. Supply Control
30.. Telephone
31. Treasury

26. Public Works Extraordinary

,8. Colonial Development and Welfare Schemes
Total Exoenditure .t


$
8,439
13,160
53,973
64,505
11,584
4,000
104,460
11,054
18,030
234,285
71,,5&8
26,525
8,328
18,461
6,584
290,707
36,849
43,430
118,341
26,911
37,959
47,378
61,008
5,835
59,073
47,020


23,588
14,307
17.357
70,293
1,555,031
28,400
1,583,431
295,452
1,878.883


31st July, 1951,
(F. 49/195o\.


Actual Expen-
diture for the Expenditure for
terd f same period of
the returiod preceding year.
the return.
$ c. $ c.
2,631 84 2,309 05
2,136 46 1,620 00
20,717 11 1.2,137 76
18,560 16 14,031 83
3,647 04 2,444 89
2,000 00 3,000- 00
37,162 59 20,862 63
2,084 95 50 00
5,564 8.1 5,469 47
67,456 44 50,444 23
21,678 81 35,948 30
6,988 50 5,242 07
2,829 91 2,275 45
4,697 93 3,806 27
2,298 09 1,836 76
84,141 45 70.771 29
18,388 67 56,999 37
16,934 36 11,322 23
34,405 17 20,763 42
7,790 30 6,424 15
9,866 40 6,450 10
14,334 43 14,566 72
30,763 70 30,430 36
1,390 98 717 07
17.448 05 10,502 28
47,561 05 11,617 30
... ... 34 86
... ... 4,792 22
9.236 72- 1,618 10
4,964 73 4,153 72
6,266 44 5,056 75
22,316 95 20,864 69
526,264 04 439,163 34
3,060 02 7,807 58


Increase.

$ c.
322 79
516. 46
8,579 35
4,528 33
1,202 15

16,299 96
2,034 95
95 34
17,012 21.

1,746 43
554 46
891 66
461 33
13,370 16

5,612 13
13,641 75
1,366 15
3,416 30

333 34
67;3 91
6,945 77
35,943 75


7,618 62
811 01
1,209 69
1,452 26


Decrease.

$ c.


1,000 00




14,269 49





38,610 70




232 29




634 86
4,792 22



:. . .


146,640 26 59,539 56
... ... 4,747 56


529.'2-4 06 446,970 92 146,640 26 64,287 12
99,402 52 97,787- 61 1,614 88 .
S,628,726 58 514,758 56 148,255 14 64287 12

V. D. ARCHER,
Colonial Treasurer.


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Statement of the Assets and Liabilities of. the Colony -of Saint, Vincent at 30th April,. 1951.


LIABILITIES.

DEPOSITS : SPECIAL FUNDS ...

DEPOSITS OTHER THAN SPECIAL FUNDS

BARCLAYS BANK OVERDRAFT

SURPLUS:
Colony's Reserve Fund


General Reveiiue Balance a/le
Balance at 1. 1. 51

Surplus & Deficit ale


$ 230,844.70

... 108,628.41


$ c.








96,985 22


$- c.

965,472 41

169,255 23

55,028. -92


122,216 29 219,201 51





$,408958 07


A SS ET S.

CASH:
In Treasury & Sub-Treasuries
With.Crown Agents
Barclays Bank Deposit a/c


Less Drafts & R mnitta ii.n-


ADVANCES


INVESTMENTS: COLONY :
Reserve FAn.d
Surplus Funds

INVESTMENTS: SPECIAL FUNDS


-$ c.


30,845 56
.23,730 16
3 43

54,579 15
230 91


93,566 64
. 220,614 5:0


$ e.







54,348 24


372,244 21




314,181 14

668,184 48

$1,408.958 07.


Nite: 1. At 30th April, 1951, the Public Debt, (not recorded in the above Li.bilities) amounted to $564,19.60. This figure includes the sum of $8,963.70.for the C.D,F. Loan for the Co-opera-
tive Arrowroot Association, and $480.00 for th" Kingstown Board W I r Supply Loan, 1930; foi which GeneralRevenue:i. only responsible id case of default.
2. The accumulated funds for redemption of the D-bt, Amounted at 30th April. 1951 to $186,572.78.


TREASURY,
St. Vincent, B.W.I.,
31st July, 1951.
(F. 49/1950).


V. D. ARCHER,
Colonial Treasurer.


I --









.MINUTES O0F A MEETING'-OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF ST. VINCENT
HELD IN THE LEGISLiTIVE COTJNCILICHA1MBER ON THURSDAY,
I 1ST MARCH, 19 i,-AT 10 A.M. "

PRESENT :
His Honour, W: F. CouTTs, M.B.E., Administrator .(President),
r .The -Honourable P. CECIL-LEwIS, Crown Attorney,
V. D; ARCHER, Colonial Treasurer,.
S-. W.. A. HADLyY, Nrminated Member,-
" D. BRISBANE, Nominated Member,
E. A. C. HUGHEs, Nominated Member,
"G. A. MCINTosHMember for Kingstown,
Eb. UNQA-N, Member for North Windward,
E. A.-JOACHIM, nMember for Leeward,
S '' -. G.-DEFREITAS, Member for Grenadines,
: '" S. F. BONADIE, Member for South Windward.

S1. PRAYERS.

he 'Meeting was opened with prayer.

'2. MINUTES.
The Minutes of themeneting of the Council held on 17th July, 1950, which haq
been previously circulated, were amended as follows :-
Page 18, three paragraphs before the last, 4th line, the, word "Arubard to be
changed to Ambard "-
Page 30, last two lines to read:
S"Each Colony, except Montserrat will have 2 in the Senate. The final results
will be 15 against 5 under amalgamation in the House of Representatives and 15 as
ag.nst. 2 in the Senate."-
Page 31,. last line of paragraph 1,. delete and desire "
-The Minutes were then confirmed.

,3. ANNOUNCEMENTS.
S President Gentlemen, I have three matters on which I want to -comment
'-this moining-two of which are on the Agenda.-
S The first'is the increasing disturbances-which you have all probably heard aree-
taking place in Grenada, and I very much regret to tell you that there is a strike
in process at Mt. Bentinck Estate. The tabour Commissioner has been there and
tried to get agreement. between the parties. It is somewhat unfortunate that
these workers took the step of striking before going t-)27ugh the normal process of
negotiation in order to try and reach agreement. 1. i Labour Commissioner
thought he had been successful in achieving agreement, and the strikers (the
hoisters) returned to work, but within an hour they were out again; and I can
only think that there are other influences at work in this-strike.'





32 -:

The situation is being very carefully watched, and I hope we will achieve
better results on a further visit which will be made by-the Labour Commissioner
and on better terms which have been agreed on by Mt. Bentinck Estate. As
Honourable Members will realise this situation might have danger in it, and we, as
responsible members of Government, must.. be very careful how the matter is
handled and see that the best is done forobth sides.
As regards the items on the Agenda, I want to mention the Loan Bill which
appears for first reading today. I shall explain to Honourable Members that this
has arisen out of certain discussions the Governor, Sir Robert Arundell, has had in
London. During- these discussions the Colonial Office "provisionally agreed that
we should go ahead with the- various projects listed for Loan funds in the past. I
-refer specifically to the Kingstown Market, Fair Hall Homes, and Central
Arrowroot Factories. Therefore, the Schedule which appears in this Loan
Ordinance although it covers these three particular matters is only-a provisional
one, as suggested by the Governor, to which other items may 'be added. One
important point of this new Ordinance is that it gives us power to raise money in
lthe London Market. You will remember that the previous Ordinance only gave
us power to raise money in St. Vincent.
I had intended to ask you to take the Bill through all stages at this meeting,
but in view of the fact that it has had to be changed -t the last moment, I now
consider that it would be better if Members could be given the opportunity to
absorb the Bill and pass it at a subsequent meeting of/Coufhcil.
The nbxt point to which I want to refer is in -connection with the two
Agricultural Bills on the Agenda for second reading. I have received a letter from
the Planters' As.ociation asking that, in view of the fact that both of these Bills
affect thmrn considerably, they would like to have an opportunity to comment on
them by a memorandum before the second reading is taken. I suggested that you
would probably agree to postpone them to 5th April, which is the next meeting of
Council-,but no longer, and I trust Honourable 'Members will agree to that
procedure.

4. NOTICES OF MQTIONS.
There were no notices of Motions.

5. PETITIONS.
There were no Petitions.

6. PAPERS LAID.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Your Honour, Honourable Members, I have the.
honour to lay the following papers on the Council Table :-
SCouncil Paper No. 6 of 1951-Minutes of Meeting of Finance Committee, 19th
September, 1950.
.Council-Paper No. 7 of 1951-Minutes of Meeting of Finance Committee, 3rd
October, 1950.
Council Paper No. 8 of 1951-Report of the Principal Auditor, Windward
Islands for the year 1949
Council Paper No. 9 of 1951-Importation of Animals (Diseases Prevention)
(Amendment) Regulations 1951.
Council Paper No. 10 of 1951-Importation of Animals (Diseases Prevention)\
(Venezuela) Order, 1951







33

Council Paper No. 11 of 1951-Income Tax (Payment by Covernment
Employees and Pensioners) Rules, 1951
In Typescript-Report on Public Library for the year 1950'

7. NOTICES OF QUESTIONS.
Hon. Member for South Windward: Your Honour, Honourable Members, I
beg leave to give notice that, I will ask the following questions at a subsequent
meeting of Council :-"
1. Will Government please further inform this Council as to the present
position of the Henry Hayward Bequest And the reason for the continued
delay in having the same implemented?
2. Will Government please state what is the estimated cost of the nurses home
that is being built at Montrose? /
3. Will Government please state whether any detailed plans .and specifications
for the said Nurses quarters have been considered and approved by any
responsible body? If the 'answer is in the affirmative will Government
please state the name -of the responsible body?
4. Will Government please state why the control price of sugar has been
recently increased?
5. Will Government please state if this increase was. ever fully discussed by
the Control Board.
6. Will Government please state how soon the Public Works Department
,intends to do the proposed improvements to the drain at Calliaqua for the
purpose of relieving the customary flooding in this area.
'Honourable Member for Kingstown : Your Honour, Honourable Members, I
beg leave to give notice that I will ask the following question at a subsequent
meeting of Council :-
Will Government please take steps to have Fire Hydrants laid in the Villa
and other areas where the New Water Supply is being installed?
President: I call upon the Honourable Colonial Treasurer to move the 1st
Motion standing in his name.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer I beg leave to move that this Council
approves the Schedules of Additional Provision required to meet expenditure in
excess of the Estimates for the year 1950 for the period April to June, 1950.
There are three Schedules-one for expenditure up to and including $1,440,
another for expenditure up to and including $3,600 and the third for expenditure
over $3,600.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
President : I riow call upon the. Honourable Colonial Treasurer to move the.
second motion standing in his name.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer: I beg leave to move 'that this Council
approves the Schedules -of Additional Provision required to meet exFenditure in
excess of the Estirmates for the year, 1950 for the period July to September, 1950.
Here again, there are three Schedules for amounts up to and including $1440;
up to and iriluding $3,600; arid over $3.600.






34

Honourable- Crown Attorney : I beg to second the motion. -
Question put and agreed to.
President : I now call upon the Acting Colonial Treasurer to move the third
motion standing in his name.
Honourable Colonial. Treasurer: I beg leave to move that this Council
approves the Statements of Supplementary Expenditure For the year 1949 which
were not included in previous Schedules of Additional Provision.
There are three Statements in respect of the following sums
"Up to and including $1,440
Over $1,440. to $3,600
Over $3,600. ,
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to second the motion-.
Question put and agreed to.
President: I now call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the first-
motion standing in his name.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that this Council approves the
Regulations cited as the St. Vincent Grammar School ('Amendment) Regulations,
S1951, made. by the Governor in Council under section 29 of the Education Ordinance,
1'37 on the 9th day of Febrpary, 1951.
These Regulations are really a consolidation of all previous amendments to
the principal -regulations. The important point is in clause 3, new Regulation 23,
which-statesthat no pupil shall attend school after a 30 day period has expired
without paying his school fees.
I would'also like-to move that the word "has" appearing in line 4 of this
Regulation be deleted and the word have be inserted.
Honourable Member' for.South Windward : I would like to ask one question.
In connection with what the Crown Attorney said, does this mean that any of the
present practices in vogue will be dispensed with or that pupils will not be given
-the facilities which they now enjoy with regard to payment of fees. In other
words, are there any facilities which.are given at present which will be curtailed?
Honourable Crown Attorney: The facilities are that you will have 30 days
-within which to pay the school fees. Regulation 21 is really a re-statement of the
present position; andthe instalment.system has been dropped.
Honourable Mendber for South Windward: I notice you have dropped ,the
privilege of paying by instalments. Any time .the question of Education is affected
I try to place on record my views. I don't like to see anything done which would
have the effect of restricting certain people of modest means from getting a
secondary education: I can quote many instances of persons-not excluding
myself-who could not have had a secondary education except for the face that
they were allowed-to pay fees on the instalment plan. ..This is about the third
time that I have had occasion to raise my voice against the curtailment of any
facilities for secondary education, and I am going to ask this Council to assist me
.in making the necessary amendment to these Regulations, so that the system of
paying school fees by instalments as hitherto existed be continued.
Honourable 0. D. Brisbane : Your Honour, I wish to be consistent with my
policy in this matter and think it wise-to say a few words. I am very glad the
Honourable Member for South Windward has said what he has in connection with
these Regulations. I don't know if I should say it here; but most of you know


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what my views were on this natter in Executive Council. The matter was passed
by the majority, but I was not-in favour orf dropping payment by inrttalments. I
am still of opinion that reconsideration should be given to the views put forward
by the Honourable Mt/ember for South Windward and instead of allowing 30-days
for payment, make it 14 days and still grant the installment concession, particularly
'to parents whorhave two or more children at school. I am prepared to support any
S. motion put forward by the Honourable Member for Sotth Windward to amend
these Regulations.
Honourable Member for Kingstown- Your Honour, I too would like to join
issue in this matter. I think the instalment system is a facility which should not
be withdrawn from people who have to pay for their children attending secondary
schools, and I should like to move the following addition to Regulation 21 (a)
payable in monthly instalmentswhen two or more children of one household
attend the school."
Honourable-E. A. C. Hughes: I should remind Honourable Members that
these are rules made by the Executive Council, and only placed before Legislative
Council for approval. We can either approve or reject the rules, but we cannot
take upon ourselves the yoke-of Executive Council and proceed to make rules.
Honourable Member for Kingstown: -I fail to see why we cannot make-rules
when we have power to approve amendments to these same rules.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes: Let us say then thaf we do not accept the
Regulations- as they stand, and recommend that new regulations be made.
SHonoukable Member for South Windward : I'beg to move that these rules be.
referred back to Executive Council.
Honourable O. D. Brisbane : I beg to second the motion.
President : I now-call upon the Honourable Member for Kingstown to make
-such recommendations to Executive Council as he would like made.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : I will suggest the necessary amendments
in Executive Council.
Motion proposed by Mr. Bonadie and seconded .by Mr. Brisbane "that these
Regulations be rejected-" foted on as follows :
5 for
3 against.
2 abstentions
President : Are there any other recommendations you wish to make? -
Honourable ieiember for South Windward : I don't like the word "rejected "
-I prefer the wording that these regulations be referred back to Executive
Council for the purpose of retaining the installment principle."
S. President: I now call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the
Ssrcond motion standing in his name.
I-onourable Crowfi Attorney :- In the light of the decision on the first motion,
and as the second motion dealing with the Girls' High School is identical, I presume
it is Honourable Mem.ers' wish that similar action be taken- as in the previous
motion. -
Question as to whether the St. Vincent Girls' High School (Amendment)
g Rgulatio's should be referred back to Executive Council put and agreed to.





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President: I now call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to move ihe
further motions appearing on the addendunm.to the Order Pape r,
Honourable Crown Attorney : Your Honour, Honourable Members, I beg leave
to move that this Council approves the Regulations cited., as the Pensions
(Amendment) Regulations, 1951, made by the Governor-in-Council on.tfhe 20th day
of February, 1951,'under Section 3 (1) of the Pensions Ordinance, 1948 (No. 16 of
1948) .;
These amendments are designed-to include in the Schedule of Titles under the
principal Ordinance the names of certain Colonies and the names of, certain
places and institutions, which would make it possible for a person who has been
transferred from one Colony to' another or for service in another institution to
- carry hispension rights with him. These regulations are made on the advice of
the S.cretary of State, who suggested that these names be inserted,
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Honourable Member for -South Windward : I am afraid I don't understand
the reason why these regulations have. been made-and would not like to leave the
Council Chamber without this information.
Honourable Crown Attorney : In the Pensions Ordinance there is a list of
places which are Scleduled territories under which 'an officer's public service is
taken into account for pension purposes. That is to say, if an officer is transferred
from one territory to another mentioned in the Schedule he is entitled to carry
with him his pension rights.
Honourable-Membet for South Windward : Are'these regulations reciprocal?
I notice Dominica is one of the places mentioned.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : Dominica is already mentioned in the Schedule.
What we are doing now is to insert certaiii words between Dominica" and
"Falkland Islands ", etc. These amending regulations are to make provision for
the man who is transferred from St. Vincent to, say, North Borneo (I can think
now of Major Cozier, who has been transferred from St. Vincent to that Colony)
to which territory at present he does hot carry his pension rights with him. These
regulations are simply to. extend the territories under which an officer transferred
from St. Vincent would be entitled to carry his pension rights.
S- President : Is that expl.aation satisfactory?
Honourable Member for South Windward : Yes.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg leave to move that this Council approves
the Regualations cited as the Scholarships to Secondary Schools (Amendment)
Regulations, 1951, made by the Governor-in-Council on the 9th day of February,
S1951, under Section 29 of the Education Ordinance (No. 29 Qf 1937).
This amendment to the Regulations was suggested by the Education
Department afid is for the purpose of substituting the word September for the
word July as the qualifying date for sitting the examination, on account of the
fact that the examination date has been changed.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg leave to move that this Council approves-
the Regulations cited as the Education (Kingstown Preparatory, School)
(Amendment) Regulations, 1951, made by the Governor-in-Council on the 26th day
of January, 1951, under Section 30 of the Education Ordinance (No. 29 of 1937).







S The object of this amendment is t6 -increase the age \of admission of
pupils to the Kingstown Preparatory School, so that pupils m ay enter at the
beginning of the term in which they attain the age of 5. Hitherto if a pupil
attained the age of 5 in the middle of a term he could not enter at the beginning of.
that term. The age of removal has also been extended to 12 instead of 11.
Question put and agreed to.
President: I now, call upon the Horiourable Colonial Treasurer to move the
first reading'of the Income Tax (Amendment) Bill.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg leave to move the introduction and
first reading ofVa Bill for an Ordinance to amend the Income Tax Ordinanse, 1948.
The objects of this Bill-are to give to persons appointed under Section 3 of the
Ordinance the right to enter business premises for the purpose of checking- the
stock in trade therein, examining books of accounts and'obtaining information for
the better administration of the Ordinance.
Certain subsections of the .original Ordinance were -not included in the
consolidated Ordinance, and it is clear that this was a mistake. This Bill rectifies
those errors.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to.second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a first time.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg leave to move the introduction and
first reading of a. Bill for an Ordinknce o make provision for raising the necessary
money for the Development Works set out therein.
His Honour, the President has already given a full explanation ef the objects
of the Bill and it is not, therefore, necessary for me to repeat anything that he has
said.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
.Bill read a first time.
President: I now call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the
second reading of the Local Government Bill.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Your Honour, Honourable Members, I beg to
move the second reading of a Bill for an Ordinance to provide for the
establishment of Local Authorities for Towns and Villages.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to- .
Bill read a second time. ,
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that this Council'refer the Bill
to a Select Committee of the Council.
SHonourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
President,,: May I now have suggestions from Honourable Members as to the
personnel of the Committee.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes.: We should decide whether the Select Committee
should comprise 3 or 4 or 5 members. I would' suggest a Committee of 4--
members and the Honourable Crown Attorney as Chairman.
Honourable Member fpr South Windward : I suggest that Mr. Hughes should
be a member of the Select Committee: -
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : In view'oi the fact that the Crown Attorney- is
already on the Committee, there is no. need for another legal man, and I would,






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therefore, suggest that Messrs Bonadie, -Joachim and McIntosh comprise the...
Committee.
President: Mr. Hughes begs to withdraw and suggests that the Committee
should consist of the Honourables McIntosh, Bonadie and Joachini, with the-
Crown Attorney as Chairman... -
Question .lut and agreed to.
President. : I now call upon the Honourable Crown-Attorney to move the
second reading of the Teachers Pensions (Amendment) Bill.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I beg to move that "the Teachers Pensions
(Amendment) Bill be read a second time.'
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to
Bill.read a second time.' -
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that Council resolve itself into
into a Committee:of the whole Council to consider theft Bill clause by clause.
SHonourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg-to second the motion.
Question put ahd- agreed to.

S .. Committee': "- -
Honourable Crown Att6rney : I think that I should remind Honourable
Members that Teachers and the Police have had distinct'pensions legislation and.
up: to now it has not been possible for service under one or other branch to:be
carried forward on transfer to other pensionable employment. This .Ordinance
now brings all of the three Pensions Ordinances into line so far as the Teaching,
Police and Civil. Services are concerned.
Clause 2-Addition of new, Sections to principal Ordinance.
Honburable Colonial Treasurer.: I suggest that the word "British" be
inserted between "the at the end of the fourth line of Cla'use 5B and Wes-" in
the fifth line.
S President; With that amendment, nmay clause 2 stand part of the Bill? .
Aye. -
Clause 1-Short title.
SQuestion put and agreed to..
S- Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that the Committee rise, Council
S resume and the President report back to the Council.
H- onourable Colonial Treasurer : I. beg to second'the motion.
Presidehft: Honourable Members, j have to report that the Teachers Pensions
(Amendment) Bill has passed through thp Committee stage with one amendment,
ialftely, the insertion of tle.word British "-between the-words the and "West"
S-in the 4th-line of sub-section 5B of Section 2.-
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that the President's report be
:- ^i ^adopted. .
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion;
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown" Attorney : I beg to move that the Bill be 'read a third"
time by title and passed.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : T second the. motion.
-" Bill read a third time. -
President: I now call upon the Hronourable Crown Attorney to move the
.-second reading of the Fishing Nets (Amendmeht) Bill.







Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that the Fishing Nets
(Amendinent) Bill be read a second time.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : i beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I. move that Council resolve itself into aE
Committee of the whole Council to consider the Bill clause by claus'.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : 'I beg to second the motion.
Question put.and agreed to.

In Committee.
SClduse 2-Section 6 (5) of principal Ordinance amended.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 3-Section 7 of principal Ordinance amended.
'Question.put and agreed to.
Clause 1-Short title.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable CrOwn Attorney : I beg to move that the Committee rise, Council .
resume and the President report back to the Council.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer :. I beg to second the motion. .
Question put and agreed to.
President : I have to report that the Fishing Nets (Amendment) Ordinance,
1951 has passed through the Committee stage without amendment.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I beg to move that the President's report be
adopted.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the. motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : move that the Bill be read a third time by.
title and passed.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : .I-beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a third time.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move-the second reading of the Public
Library (Amendment) Bill.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
*Question put,and agreed to.
Bill read a second time.
-Honourable Crown Attorney: I move that Council- resolve itself into a
Committee of the whole Council to consider the Bill clause by clause.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer: I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.

SIn Committee.
'Clause 2-Section 6 (5) of principal Ordinance amended.
Honourable Member for South Windward : -I hope that greater care will be
-exercised in the appointment of the personnel of the Library Committee and the
Chairman. The whole success of this service tdepehds on the Committee appointed,
Sand I would like Governmnent to exercise the greatest care in selecting. personnel,
particularly as the life of the-Committee is being extended.- -
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Clause 3-Section 7 of principal Ordinance amended.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 1-ShArt title.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I move that the Committee rise, Council
resume and the President report back to thd Council.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to
/ President: I have to report that the Public Library (Amendment) Bill has
passed'through the Committee stage without amendment.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the President's report be adopted.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the Bill be read a third time by
title and passed.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a third time.
President : I now call upon-the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the
S second reading of the Public Property Insurance (Amendment) Bill.
Honourable Crown. Attorney: I beg to move that the Public Property
Insurance (Amendment) Bill, .951, he lead a'second time.
Ionourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a second time.
Honourable Croivn Attorney : I move that Council resolve itself into a
Committee of. the whole Council to consider the Bill clause by clause.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the lotion.
Question put and agreed to.

In Committee.
President : I think I should explain that this amendment really came from
the Secretary of State. When we submitted an application for -finds from the
Public Property Insurance Fund to be used for the repair of decayed public
buildings, he was particularly anxious that we should have a definition of the term
decay ".
Clause 2-Section 3 amended.
.Question put and agreed to.
Clause 3-Section 6 amended.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 4-Commencement.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 1-Short title.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney :-I -move that the Committee rise, Council
resume and the President report back to the Council.
/Honourable ColoniaLTreasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.








President : I have to report that the Public Property Insurance (Amendment)
Bill has passed through the Committee stage without amendment.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I move that the President's report be adopted.
Honourable Coloirial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question-put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I move that the Bill be read a third time by
title and passed.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
-Bill readva third time.
President: I now call -upon the- Honourable Crown Attorney to move the
second reading ot the Medical Officers (Amendment). Bill.
Honorable Crown Attorney : I move that.a Bill for an Ordinance to amend
the Medical Officers Ordinance Cap 114 be read a second time.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a second time.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that this Council resolve itself into a
Committee of the whole Council to consider the Bill clause by clause.
Honorable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.

In Committee.
Honourable O. D. Brisbane : your Honour you will remember that when this
Bill came before Executive Council I objected to the amount of fees to be charged
for these tests. I was of the opinion that they should be reduced by 50%. I
believe it is stated in the Rules that it shall be in the power of a Medical Officer to
reduce fees, and I suggest that the fees which I saw should be reduced by 50%.- I
base this argument on the fact that when this question was considered with the
estimates, collections were based on the fees being reduced. This is a new matter
-we have never paid these fees in the past, and while some people can afford to'
pay them, certain people cannot afford to do so. As I was not supported in my
recommendation to Executive Council, I make the suggestion here now.
I pee no fees attached to this Bill and I do not know whether this Council
would want to know what those fees are, or if they will leave it to Executive
SCouncil or the Senior Medical Officer to make whatever fees they wish.
President: Like the School Regulations, this Bill is only conferring on
Executive Council the power to limit-the fees for these tests.
Honourable Member for South Windward: I am suggesting an amendment
to Clause 2. In these days when Members of Council are blamed for everything
whether they know about it or not, I want to suggest that these fees be approved
by Legislative Council. -
Honourable Member for Kingstown : I suggest the following amendment
Provided that certain other people be entitled to free tests."
Honourable Crown Attorney: Clause 12A provides for -two different
categories of free tests. It states that all labourers or persons entitled to free
medical aid shall have these tests free of charge, and also that tests in the interest
of public health should be free.
'Honourable Member for Kingstown : Should we not restrict it to the earning
capacity of people in some way?








Honourable E. A. C. HughesT -I don't think that can be done.
Honourable O. D. Brisbane : We should submit to Executive Council the fees
that we suggest should be charged.
Honourable Crown Attorney: 'I suggest that the Bill be left in Committee
- and we will then be able to ascertain from the principal Ordinance who are the
persons entitled to free fiedical aid.
Question that the Medical Officers (Amendment) Bill should remain in
Committee put and agreed to.
President: I now call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney -to move the
S- second reading of the Land Acquisition (Amendment) Bill.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that a bill for "an Ordinance further to
amend the Land Acquisition Ordinance be read a second time.-
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a second time.
Honourable Crown Attorney I move that this Council resolve itself into a
Committee of the whole.Council to consider the Bill clause by clause.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer": I second the motion.
Question put -and agreed to.
In Coniiittee.
Honourable Member for South Windward: I would like some fuller
Hxplanation of the background of this Bill.

Honourable E. A. C. Hughes: ,The present position is that under our original
Land Acquisition Ordinance the compensation payable for the land was determined
by a Board of Arbitration. In 1946 a new Ordinance was passed providing that
the land would be valued on the amountwhich it was likely to fetch if sold in the
open market in 1939, plus whatever increase the Governor inr Council might
prescribe. It was, however, found extremely difficult to arrive at a fixed value
and to. get a flat percentage increase. I believe Government appointed, two
Committees to try and decide what this percentage should be, but in both cases
their efforts were in vain. The object of this bill is to value the land at the price
which the willing seller would receive or in other words an open market value.
Clause 2--Setion 19 (a) of Principal Ordinance repealed and replaced.
Question put and agreed to;
Clause 1-Short title.'
Question put and agreed to. .
Honourable Crown Attorney I move that the Committee rise, Council
resume and the President report back to the Council.
S Honorable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
SPresident: I have to report that the Land Acquisition (Amendment) Bill
passed through the Committee stage Without amendment,
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that'the President's report be adopted.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I move that the Bill be- read a third time by
title\andp8as8ed..







I onourable Colonial Treasurer: I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a third time and passed.
SPresident: The question' as to whether the Agricultural Bill and the
Agricultural'& Livestock (Annual Census) Billbe read a, second-time at the next
meeting of 'Council is put to the House.
Aye.
Hoflourable Crown Attorrley : I move that this Council adjourn sine die.
President : Any debate on the adjournment?
Members : No.
President : I had forgotten to mention thaf I hopethat at the next meeting
Sof Council we will be able to debate the Electiohs Bill, 1951. Now this is a very
important :ill as everyone realises and also a very long Bill, but in order to speed
up preparations for Elections I do want-to.take this Bill through all stages at the
next meeting of Council. I hope to get it in the hands\of Honourable Members in
good time before the meeting so that they can-peruse it,jbut I want Men{bers to
realise now that I propose to take it through all its stages at one meeting, so that
no objection will be raised then.
Honourable Member for South Windward : Can you give us any idea of the
date ofthe Elections?
President: August.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : I again draw attention tn the oiling of
the approach to the Court House.
President : I have not been unmindful of this and have taken the matter up.
There is however considerable opposition to the proposal so perhaps you might
take the opportunity of moving a motion that it be so oiled in order that the
subject may be ventilated. The objection apparently is that it will make the
Council Chamber too hot.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : We have got a fan now.
Meeting adjourned sine die.

HENRY H. WILLIAMS,
Acting Clerk of Legislative Council.


-Confirmed 2nd August 1951 .


W. F. COUTTS,
Administrator.







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MINUTES OF MEETING OF LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL HELD AT THE COUNCIL
CHAMBER, ON THURSDAY THE 5TH APRIL, 1951 AT 10 A.M.

PRESENT
His Honour W. F. COUTTS; M.B.E., Administrator, President,
The Honourable P. CECIL LEWIS, Crown Attorney,
S" V. D. ARCHER, Colonial Treasurer,
W. A. H-ADLEY, 'Nominated Member,
E. A. C. HUGHES, Nominated Member,
S" G. A. MCINTosH, Member for Kingstown,
E. DUNCAN, Member for North Windward,
S. G. DEFREITAS, Member for the Grenadines,
S.-F. BONADIE, MIember for South Windward.

ABSENT
The Honourable O. D. BRISBANE, Nominated Member (On sick leave),
E. A. JOACHIM, Member for Leeward.

1. PRAYERS.
The meeting was opened with prayer.

2. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES.
The Minutes of the meeting held on 5th October, 1950, were taken as read and
were confirmed.

3. ANNOUNCEMENTS.
President: Honourable Members of Council, I wish this morning before we
proceed on the business of the meeting to make observations on one or two
matters. The first observation I wish to make is on the general political situation.
Members are invited to give the matter serious consideration for a very large
number of people seem to take delight in spreading rumours. I will urge on
Members and the general public to consider the situation as being very serious.
There is reason for us to take a firm grip on our own affairs and it is for us to
decide how the matter is to be dealt with. I propose to lay the matter before
Executive Council, and to issue a statement on the whole situation which I will
now read to Members of Council. The statement has not yet received the approval
of the Executive Council, but I trust it will do so.

EMPLOYMENT SITUATION.
The Government'of St. Vincent has for some time been concerned about the
rising cost of living owing to the increased cost of imported articles due largely to
the stock piling for rearmament in both the United Kingdom and the United
States of America.
It is fully understood by the Government that this rise in cost of living is
bearing hardly on every member of the community. In addition to this, the







Government, in common with other West Indian Governments, is faced with the
problem of over-population. The econorG of the Colony is dependent mainly on
Agriculture, akd although active steps are being taken to increase production, the-
agricultural industry cannot absorb the number of workers who "are seeking
employment, and in fact.is being severely hindered by the niimber 6f workers'who'
are charitably employed in that sphere. Other. avenues of employment, namely
the Government Service and commercial establishments, are not in a position to
employ a very large percentage of the population. With a view to remedying the
situation a sub-committee of the Labour Advisory Board in consultation with the -
Heads of the Public Works, Agriqulture, Medical, Education, Public Relations anpd
Labour Departments, recommended .the.establishment of certain.industries from
a commercial basis and the enactment of legislation for granting relief from
payment of Customs Duties and Income Tax in respect of such industries for a
limited period.
-- .-The Government have accepted in principle these recommendations and a
Pioneers Aid to Industries Bill has been prepared and is ready for introduction into
the Legislative Council. Plans forth formation 'of a Development Board are also
in progress. It is expected that this Board will be constituted with members not
entirely from within the Government Service and also possibly with persons, from'
other Colonies in the Caribbean Area if they will agree to serve.
It should be-noted, however, that all these plans are in the main. long term
-projects and do not -therefore -take into account the unfortunate state of
unemployment which exists in St. Vincent at the present time -
Government fully appreciates that, the employment of workers outside the
Colony greatly assists the social and economic well-being of the people, and in the
event of-there being an appreciable expansion in the demands of the United States
armed forces and industry, there is a possibility of agricultural workers from the
British West Indian Colonies (including St. ,Vincent) beingg 'recruited for
employment under contract for specified periods. In so far as the Netherlands
West Indies (Aruba and Curacao) are concerned, there is nd large scale demand
for British West Indian workers at the present time, and vacancies whenever they
occur are likely to be filled from the local population of the Netherlands West
Indies. Government is publishing elsewhere a statement regarding the actual
figures of- workers recruited for employmentin the Netherlands West Indies during
the years of 1942-1945 and the position since that date. ,,
Enquiry was also made regarding employment prospects in Panama aind
Government was informed that there 'vas little reason to expect any noteworthy
increase of the labour force in the Canal Zone before the year 1970, and should
unsettled world- conditions necessitate any augmentation of the existing labour
force, such labour as might be required could be supplied for some time to come
from the ranks of the unemployed in the Republic of Panama.
S Quite recently, it-was decided by Government to raise the rates of workers,
and this has been done not because of any pressure from without, but because it is
normally the practice to iaise the wages of workers if the price of the main crops
are increased. It is hoped that this will assist those persons within normal
employment to imet the present situation, but it is realized that the main trouble
of -the agricultural or industrial worker is that he is not given jull employment
during,the week and he may find himself with only two or. three days employment .
'out of seven. There are two ways of meeting such a situation :


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(a) Decreasing the cost of normal foodstuffs to- the community by
Subsidization.
(b) The creation of employment.
Government in reviewing (a) considered that for one year sum of not less than
$100,000 would be required, and at the-end of that time there would be nothing to
show for.the expenditure, and in any case a policy of subsidies was not a good one..
During-the next two or three months, therefore, the Government hopes,..in order
-to relieve the: situation, to create some employment by recommending work on the
reconstruction of the Vigie Highway and also certain suburban roads. It should
be fully understood that these works are merely in the nature of relief to
unemployed people at the present time, and should not be taken as a change in
Government's policy regarding finance. It will involve the expenditure, of
-.Government funds but it is felt that such an' expenditure, notwithstanding the
difficult -financial situation, of the Colony, will assist in restoring confidence
amongst the citizens of St.'Vincent.
It is accepted by Government that, in view of the claims that have been -
Sput .forward by the Civil Service for over a year, it would be unjust to spend the
-money which it will be necessary to spend for these relief works without giving
consideration to the Civil Service.- The results of the MacLeod-Smith Commission
on the Cost'of Living position have not yet been received, but.it is understood that
a certain increase in cost of living is necessary in view of the most recent "rise in
. prices. The Government does not at this stage commit itself to any particular
figure, but intends to make. a gesture in giving the Civil Servants a certain
measure of relief. It should be clearly- understoo bly all, however, that the
employment of labour and the payment'of extra aid to the Civil Service are in
fact no more than gestures of good faith as the financial situation of the Colony
would-preclude -the Government from creating wholesale and widespread
employment. Government has clso noticed with dismay .a certain, tendency on
the part of the worker in the West Indian Colonies al the present time to strike,
without proper negotiation, and calls upon all workers to understand that such
mtinell:ij : are unconstitutional and that negotiations should always precede- any
notification of a. strike.,
,The second matter I want to touch on is the Elections Bill which is to enable
us to proceed with preparation for the next general elections. Until theBill is
passed, we cannot proceed-with enumeration, which we had hoped to commence
on the 16th April. The. necessary instruments have not arrived, but I received
information from the Governor directing me not to proceed with the bill until I
heard from him. --It will not be possible to proceed with.the-bill t today's meeting.
S The Director of Colonial Surveys has notified Government that he will lend us
a team of surveyors to carry out our programme. I think this Is a very welcome
piece of news and it will enable us to make a proper survey of the Colony.
S [At this point the Honourable Member for Kingstown arrived, and tendered
an excuse for being late.]

4. NOTICES OF MOTIONS.
Honourable 'Member .for Kingstown : Your Honotr, Honourable Members, I
give notice that I shall move the following Motion at the next meeting of Council :
lit view'of the fact that the majority of people in the Windward Islands are
miserably poor; and also
In view of the fact that retrenchment is necessary in government; and also





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In view of the fact that recent happeningsinn Grenada demonstrate that
immediate attention should- be given to the matter, as ts xation is-becoming very
burdensome on the taxpayers; .. -
BE IT RESOLViED that this Council recommend the abolition of the post,-f
Governor and Commander-in-Chief of the.Windward Islands immediately.

5. PETITIONS.
There .were no Petitions.

S6. PAPERS. '
S How-c inl 1,- Crown Attorney: Mr. Presidertt, Hol.oiurable Members, I have
the honour to lay the following Ilpers on the CounciL:table :- -
Council Paper No. 12 of: 151 : Finance Committee -Minutes, 7th No.ember,
1950..,
Council Paper No. 13 of;-1951: Finance Committee Minutes, 10th November,
1950
Council Paper No: 14 of 1951-: Finance- Committee Minutes, 14th November,
1950
I n Typescript : Report of the: Select Committee on- the- Local Government.
Bill. -

S- - 7. QUESTIONS,
President -I now call upon the Honpurable: ember for Ki.gatown .to. ask
the question standing in his name.
Honourable Member for K.iigtown : ;Your. Honour, Honourable Members, I
beg leave to ask the- following. question standing in my name:- .
1. Will .Go%-ii enment please take steps to have fire hydrants laid inr the Villa.
and other areass \, Iere the n'ew water supply is being installed.
Reply: 2 inch anl l/z' inch tee-offs, to which Tre hoses can be coupled, arebeing
inserted.at strategic points along the lines.
President : I now call upon the Hoonourable Mdmiber for South Windward to
ask the questions standing in his namee"
SHonourable Member for South Windward: Your Hqnour, .Honourable
Members, I beg-leave to.ask the following questions standing in my name:--
1. Will Government please further infSrm this- Council as to the present
position of the Hayward Bequest and the reason for-the continued delay in
having.-the same implemented?- ,

Reply: The Chief Justice of the Windward and Leeward Islands, who w0ill-undertake
the hearing-C6f the case filed in the .Supreme Caprt, on' behalf of.the
Executors of the Hayward Estate regarding` the validity of the trust
expressed in. the Testator's will, is expected in .the .Colony shortly for the
hearing.
2. Will Governmaeht please state what is the. estimated cost of t~he Nurses'
S Home that:is being built, at Montrose? .
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3. Will Government please state whether any detailed plans and specifications
for the said Nurses' Home have been considered and- approved by any
responsible body? If the answer -is in. the affirmative will Government
please state the name of the responsible body?
Reply: The procedure laid down in General Order No. 305.A was followed in every
detail.
4. WilGovernment please state why the Control Price of Sugar has been
recently increased?
Reply: The price of Mt. Bentinck sugar was increased by /2 cent. per 1b. in view of
.the increase in the 1951 London Market price by $11.40 per ton, and in
accordance with'the formula agreed upon by Government in 1947 as the
basis for fixing future prices of Mt. Bentinck sugar for local consumption,
namely, the nett London preferential price inclusive of all increases
together with a fiat additional carrying charge of 12 cents per 100 lb. While
agreeing that the formula should be adhered to for the 1951 crop, entailing
an increase of 50 cents per 100 1S. Government has notified Messrs. Mt.
Bentinck Estates Ltd., that they propose to review the question in
consultation with the Company's representatives, after two or three months
with a view to adjusting the existing formula for fixing future prices to
meet present conditions.
5. Will Government please state whether this increase was ever fully discussed
by the Control Board?
Reply: Since Government fixed the existing formula in 1947 it was not necessary
to discuss the increase with the Prices Control Board.
6. Will Government please state how soon the Public Works Department
intends to do the proposed improvements to the drain at Calliaqua for the
purpose of relieving the customary flooding in this area?
Reply: Work on the improvements is proceeding.
President : I now call upoi the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the first
motion standing in his name.
Honourable Crown Attorney: Mr. President, Honourable Members, I have
the honour to move the following motion standing in my name :-
That this Council approves the Order cited as the Department of Labour
(Industrial Workers) Order, 1951, made by the Governor in Council under section
5-(1) of the Department of Labour Ordinance, 1942 (No. 14 of 1942), on the 13th
day of March, 1951.
This is a. new Order. Hitherto there was no distinction between an agricultural
labourer and an industrial worker. The Labour Commissioner has advised that to
comply with the International Labour Convention it is necessary that some
distinction should be made- between the two categories, and this Order seeks- to
make that distinction.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
President: I now call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the
second motion standing in his name.
Honourable. Crown Attorney: Mr. President, Honourable Members, I, have
the honour to move :







That tlis Council approVes the Order cited as the Department -of Labour .
(Agricultural Workers) (Amendment) Order, 1951, made by the Governor in
SCouncil under section 5 (1) of the Department of Labour Ordinance, 1942 (No. 14
of 1942), on the 13th-day of March, 1951.
This Order introduces an amended description of the term "agricultural
labourer"., As a consequence of the passage :f the Industriaf'Workers Order
expressions in the definition of agricultural worker relating to industrial workers
have been omitted.
Honourable Colonial -Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
President : I now call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the
third motion-standing in his name.
Honourable Crown Attorney: Mr. President, Honourable Members, I have
the honour to move :-
That this Council approves the Regulations cited as the St. Vincent
grammar School (Amendment). Regulations, 1951, made by the Governor in
c Council under section 29 of the Education Ordinance,-1937, on the 13th day of
Marsh, 1951. -
SIt will be remembered that at the last meeting of Council Regulations bearing
the same title were referred back to Executive Council with a recommendation for
the retention of the system of payment of fees by instalments in the case of more-
than one pupil from a household attending either the Grammar School or the
Girls' HIigh School. Theramehdment has been made in the present Regulations.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
President I now call upon /the -Honourable Crown Attorney to move the
fourth motion standing in his name.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Mr. President, lonourable Members of Council,
I have the honour to move :-
That this. Council approves the Regulations cited as the St. Vincent Girls'
High School (Amendment) Regulations, 1951 made by the Governor in Council
under section 29 of the Education Ordinance, 1937, on the 13th day of March, 1951.
A similar explanation as in- the case of the previous motion is applicable here.
I presume Council would have no objection.to the passage,of this motion.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
BILLS.
Holourable Crown Attorney : Mr. President, Honourable Members of Council,
S.I beg to move that the first reading of the Legislative Council (Elections). Bill be
deferred to a subsequent meeting of Council. The President has already given the
_reason.
S Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second-the .motion.
Question put and agreed to.
S Honourable Colonial Treasurer: Mr. President, -Honourable Members of
Council, I movee that the Bill for an Ordinance to amend the General-Loan and
-- tock Ordinance, No. 14 of 1950 be introduced and read a first time.







The'object of this Bill is to make certain minor amendments'to the principal
Ordinance.
Ionourable Crown Attorney : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a first time. *
a Honourable Crown Attorney : Mr. President, Honourable Members of Council, -
I move that this Council resolve itself into a Committ6e of the whole Council to
consider th6 Lodal Governient Bill.
S THonourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to. -
In Committee.
President': The/Report* of the Select Committee appointed to consider this
Bill has been laid oa the table. Is it the feeling that the recommendations should
Sbe accepted as a whole and that we do not take the Bill section by section?..
S Hohourable Crown Attorney : The Bill should be taken clause by clause, and
as we proceed weshould examine the recommendations of the Select Committee
on any particular clause and either accept or reject those recommendations.
S IHon6urable Member for South Windward: I thought that we would have
,-been given a new bill incorporating the recommendations of the Selebt Committee.
Hasn't that been done?
President : That would have been a waste of paper.
Clause 2-Interpretation.
Questionput andagreed to.
SClause 3--Appointment and duties of Local Government Officer.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 4-Divieion of Colony into districts.
Question put and agreed fo.
Clause 5-Georgetown, Calliaqua, Layou; Barrouallie, Chat(iaubelair and Port
Elizabeth to be urban districts.
S Question put and agreed to.
SClause 6-Powers of Governor in Council to create urban and v llageo districts and
Define boundaries.
President : You will observe-what the feelings of Mr., Mclntosh were on- this
clause in the Select Committee -with the views of the Crown Attorney in the
Smatter.
Question put and agreed to.
'Clause 7-.Village Councils.
Que-ti:"n ptut and agreed to. .
Clduse 8-Capacity of Local Authorities.
Question put and agreed to. .
Clause 9-Ldcal Authority to consist of six members.
Question put and agreed Clause 10-Local Authority either wholly elected or partly nominated.
Question put and agreed to. .

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Clause 11-General duties of local authorities.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 12-First meeting of local authority after constitution. -
President : You have read the recommendation of the Select Committee on-
this Section. Is there any objection to the recommendations?
I-Ionourable Crown Attorney : I move that a "colon" be placed after the
word "year" at the end of subsection (1) and that the following proviso be added:-
"Provided that in the event of the inability of -the local authority to elect a
SChairman the Governor in Council shall be empowered to appoint a Chairman ".
I also move that in subsection (2) the word "on" be added after the word
" Chairman in the second line, and the last word times in the subsection be
replaced by the word occasions"
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 13-Powers and duties of Chairman.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 14-Tenure of office.
Honourable Crown Attorney': I move that the word "year's" in the third
line of subsection (1) be corrected to spell "years',".
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 15-Qualifications of members of a local authority.
Question, that the Select Committee's recommendation on this Clause be
accepted, put and agreed to.
Clause 16-Forfeiture of seat by member.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : Honourable Members will observe what
I felt in this matter, but the other members of the Committee did not think that
the local authorities will soon be in a position to pay their members.
President : Does any other member share Mr. McIntosh's views?
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes: The bill can be amended if and when the
necessity arises.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I should -like to suggest a few amendments to
this section. The addition of the word or at the end of sub-clauses (b) and (c)
of subsection (1), the changing of the comma after the word authority in sub-
clause (e) of the same subsection, and in sub-section (2) (c) the changing of the
comma after the word published to a semi-colon.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 17-Resignation of Member.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the word the in the first line
be *changed to a ".
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 18-Appointment of Warden and Deputy Warden.
President : The Select Committee has suggested that the title "warden" be
changed to clerk ", does any one object to this?
Agreed.
President : This means then that wherever the word warden'" appears in
the Bill it should be replaced by the word clerk ". As regards the other matter
raised by Mr. Bonadie, the argumfients for and against are fully set out in the
report of the Select Committee.









Honourable Member for South Windward : I did not get any support in the
Select Committee, and so I don't expect any here, but I want my views to be put
on record, I feel that if in a small matter as appointing a clerk it has to be done
subject to the approval of the Governor, we are not giving these authorities the
independence they deserve, and they will not be managing their own affairs.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes :' I am in sympathy with the views of the
Honourable Member, but I feel that the Village Councils are. not yet grown up, and
it is desirable to retain provision for the Governor's approval in this matter.
Honourable W. A. Hadley : I agree with the last speaker.
President: What about the remainder of the section. I never heard of a
Deputy-Clerk.
Honourable Member for South Windward: I move that subsections (2) to
(4) be deleted. If the authority has power to appoint a clerk it follows that that
includes power to appoint someone to act for the clerk.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes. I second the motion.
Motion put to the vote and was carried 4 votes to 1, with 1 abstention (Officials
did not vote).
Clause 19-Powers and duties of Warden.
Questions that subsection (3) be deleted put and agreed to.
Clause 20-Salary of Warden.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 21-Appointment etc., of other officers of local authority.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 22-Security by officers and servants.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 23-Accountability of officers and servants of local authority.
Question put ancLagreed to.
Clause 24-Meetings of local authorities.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 25-Filling of vacant seats on local authority.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 26-Qualification of electors.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 27-Register of voters.
Honourable Crown Attorney : An s should be added at the end of the
word qualification appearing in line 7 of sub-section (2) and line 6 of sub-
section (3).
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 28-Elections and returning officer.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the words "to be in the third
line be deleted.
Question put .and agreed to.
Clause 29-Failure to nominate candidates.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 30-Questions at Elections.
Question that the Select Committee's recommendation be accepted put and
agreed to.
Clause 31-Disputes.
9 Question that clause as amended by the Select Committee stand part of the
Bill put and agreed to.







Clause 32-Power of Governor in Council to-dissolve local authority.
S Question put and agreed to.
Clause 33-Assessment lists. in regard' to houses, land, private water service and
traders in urban districts.
Amendments made in Select Committee agreed to.
Clause 34-Amount of rates.
Amendments proposed by Select Committee agreed to.
Clause 35-Notice of Assessment.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 36-Assessment Bboks.
Amendments proposed by Select Committee agreed to.
Clause 37-Traders to keep Stock-book.
Recommendation that this section be deleted and the following sections
:renumbered accordingly accepted.
Clause 38-Rates hoew payable and recoverable. (renumbered 37)
Honourable Crown Attorney : The word if in line 8 should be "in ".
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 39-(renumbered 38) : Power of tenants to deduct rates front rent.
Questionputt and agreed to.
Clause 40-(renuinbered 39) Recovery of rates by warrant.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 41-(renumbered 40) Exclusion from assessment lists.
-Amendments recommended agreed to. ,
Clause 42-(renumbered 41) Notice of appeal against assessment.
Suggested Anfendments agreed to.
Clause 43-Time for hearing appeals. .
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 44-Magistrate's proceedings and powers on appeals.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 45-Non-appearing of refractory witness
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 46-Magistrate's proceedings subsequent to decision of appeals.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 47-Power of village council to issue licences etc.
\Question put and agreed to.
- Clause 48-Property in moneys of village district
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 49-Vesting of property in village.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 50-Laying property in proceedings.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 51-Payment of money to Treasurer for urban or district fund.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 52-Composition of Fund.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 53-Power to borodw on behalf of village.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 54-(renumbered 53), Limitation to forty-eight dollars for new work.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 55-Lotsmentioned in Act. No. 91 to remain parts of Georgetown.
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Honourable Crowh Attorney : I do not think it is absolutely necessary, my
S.nly reason for.including it is that it was in the old Ordinance.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : I move that the sections'55 and 56 be deleted.
Agreed..
Cldusq 57 (renumbered 54) Duty of Superintendent of Works.
Honourable Crown Attorney: In the margin Cap 143" should be added
opposite the words "Superintendent of Works Ordinance'".
SQuestion put and agreed to.
-Clause 58-(renumbered 55)
Honourable Crown Attorney: A marginal note "Miscellaneous- Offences"
should be inserted.: '
S Question put and agreed to.
Clause 59-(renumbered 56) By-laws.
Recommendations of Select.Committee agreed to.
Honouiable Crown -Attorney : I beg to suggest further amendments as
follows :-The words "with respect to" appearing at the beginning of sub-clauses
k, 1, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, w, x, and (bb) shouldd be deleted as well as the word "for "
at the beginning of sub-clauses (z) and (aa).
*Question put and agreed-to.
Clause 60-(renumbered 57)'" Penalties for offences.
Questionrput and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I beg to move -that a new section be inserted
as follows '
;. o- Pdwer of 58. The Governor in Council may by order enlarge the time
Governor in or alter the date fixed for the performance of any duty under
Council to this Ordinance."
enlarge time
.or alter date.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 61-(renumbered 59) Repeal and saving.
Honorable Crown Attorney: There are several amendments to be. made
here..,. \ -
The Ordinances to be repealed are as follow :-
(a) The Small Towns Regulation Ordinance Cap. 211
(b) The Small Towns Regulation (Amendment) Ordinance, 1929 No. 20 of
S 1929
(c) The Small Towns Regulation (Ainendment) Ordinance, 1936 -No. 19 of
1936
(d) The Small Towns Regulhtion (Amendment) Ordinance, 1948 No. 20 of
1948
(e) The Small Towns Regulation (Amendment No. 2) Ordinance 1948 No. 22
of i948
(f) The Village Councils Ordinance, 1948 No. 21 of 1948
(g) The Village Councils (Amendment) Ordinance 1949 NoX. 1,6 of 1949
(h) The Village Councils (Amendment) ,Ordinance, 1950 No. 5 of 1950
(i) The Small Towns Traders' Licences Ordinance Cap. 191
(j) The'Small Towns Traders' Licences (Amendment) Ord. 1936 No. 20 of
1936
S (k) The-Small Town Traders' Licences (Amendment). Ord. 1947 No. 18 of
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First Schedule.
Question put and agreed to.
Second Schedule.
Select Committee's amendments agreed to.
Third Schedule.
Honourable Crown Attorney: In Form 2 "Section 40" should now read
" Section 39 "
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 1-Short title and commencement
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the words and shall come into
operation on a date to be fixed by the Governor by proclamation in the Gazette "
be added at the end of the clause and the words on proclamation be inserted in
the small brackets under the long title.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : ;I -move that the Committee rise, and the
President report back to the Council.
Question put and agreed to.

Report Stage.
President : Honourable Members, I beg to report that the Local Government
Bill passed through the Committee stage with several amendments.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that the President's report be
adopted.
Honourable Coloxial Tieasurer : I secorid the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that the Bill be read a third
time and passed.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a third time. /
President : It is now 12.30, and I think this might be a good point to adjourn.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that Council adjourn till 2.30 p.m.
today;
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Council Adjourned.

RESUMPTION 2.30 p.m.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the Council resolve itself into a
Committee of the whole Council to consider the Medical Officers Bill clause by
clause.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.

Committee Stage.
President: Honourable Members-will recall that this Bill was left in
Committee with a-request that the proposed fees to be charged for laboratory






tests be submitted for examination, and that it night be ascertained whether the
term'" labourer" was defined in the principal Ordinance. The matter was
referred to Executive CounCil, and I think it will-suffice for me to read the
Executive council Minute on the matter.
With reference to the discussion of this Bill in Legislative Council on,
\ 1st March, -951, Council was advised that the term labourer was defined,.
Sin Cap. 114 of the Revised Laws. It was however agreed that.in due course
the definition shoul'l-be amended to increase the minimum income stated in
the definition.,.
Witlreference to the proposed.fees to be charged under the Ordinance
it was felt that it would not be proper to submit them to Legislative Council
before they were approved by Executive Council. They would ha.re to be laid
before Legislative Council after approval."'
Question whether Bill should be proceeded with put and agreed to. -
Clause 2-Additio4z of newusection to principal Ordinance.
Question put and agreed to. -
Claiuse 1-Short title.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I beg to move that the Committee-rise, and
the President report back to the-Council.
Honpurable Colonial Treasurer: I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
President : Honourable-Members-of Council, I beg to report that the Medical
Officers (Amendment) Bill passed through the 'Committee, stage without
amendment.
* Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that-the President's report be
adopted.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
--Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the Bill be read a third time and
passed.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a third time.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Mr. President, Honourable Members, I beg to
move. that the Agriculture Bill be read a second time:-'
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a second time.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that the Council resolve itself
into a Committee of-the whole Council to consider the Bill clause' by clause..
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.

In Committee.
Honourable Member for South Windward : Is there any similar ordinance in
operation in the other West Indian islands? "
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SHonourable W. A. Iadley : I don't think itis undesirable. Some people seem
S to think, that it is a very harsh Bill; it may be. harsh, but I can't see anything'
.. against it as long as it is carried out in the best way. Surely if a planter does not
-cultivate his lands properly.he has to be made to do something about it, arid I
-personally can't see anything against the Bill.
President- I think I should give a brief-explanation. Shortly after I came
-here, I was approached by the Superintendent of Agriculture with a report that
some'people were refusing to carry out conservation measures and look after their
soil properly, and they particularly hindered the work of his Department. In the
.first instance I obtained a copy of the_Kenya Land and Water Ordinance which
was a very harsh Bill indeed and I got the Crown Attorney to put up a draft. Later
on, however,, in consultation with the Crov~n Attorney this bill was drafted from
the British Model.
H. nourable Member for Kingstown: I personally -do not consider it
oppressive, and I agree that if the owner o0'the land does hot carry out- the
necessary measures, then the Agriclltural Department would ceme in and do it.
S t is time that we learn: There seems to be quite a. lot of criticism of the bill in-
Sthe papers by people-who do not know what itis all aboi~t. We must teach people
the manner in 'ich to plant. I see nothing harsh about it. We must be careful
to appoint people who ~ill See it properly carried out.
... Clause 2-Interpretation.
.. Question put and agreed to.
SClause 3-Duties of good estate management and good husbandry.
Question put arid agreed to.
Claudd 4-Good estate management. _
Question put and agreed-to..
Clause 5-Power of Superintendent of Agriculture to supervise management and
farming.
Honourable Member for South Windward This is the one that satisfies me.
Without that the whole thing falls to the ground. -I was really looking for it. I
wondered whether it was possible for \the Agricultural Superintendent to- effect
any spite, but there is no room for anything like that; Could the occupier of the
S, land apply to any court?
.- Honourable E. A. C. Hughes: No.
Honourable Member for South Windward: Will the Court hold any appeal
against the supervision order?.
Honourable, E. A. C. Hughes : The appeal lies to the Committee.
Honourable Member -for Kingstown : I agree, but that Committee might be
lenient. *
S HopourAble E. A C. Hughes : VWhat happens if there is a further appeal? I.
S propose to throw.out for consideration, that there should be a Central Committee
to hear appeals-from the Area Committees. .
SHoaourable Crown Attorney: The Governor in Council would not be .the
person to decide. The Goverhor in Council does not consider itself an appropriate
body to do so, therefore they appoint a committee to go into the matter and make
r_ ecoaxmendations. -







Honourable Member for Kingstown : What is the objection really of' going to
. the Governor in Council.,
President : The Governor in Council made the order, and they may object to
the appeal. Under the circumstances the consideration of other people will be
more effective. The Governor in Council can do nothing about it.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : The Governol in Council makes the supervision
Order and if the person against whom the order is made-does not think an order is
necessary in that case, he eventually finds himself appealing ththe same body
that made the original order. No man is-prone to over-rule his own decision.
Honourable Crown Attorney : That' arrangement is wrong.
Honourable Member for'Kingstown : As far as this is concerned, there are
many 'planters and farmers who realise the need of preserving the soil and I
believe theyare quite willing to give quite an honest opinion.
President,: It seems to me we will have to create another body.
Honourable Member for South- Windwarl : What about leaving the matter
in the hands of a Select Committee?
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : iI agree that it will be proper to leave it in the
hands of a committee, but it will be a good thing if the Crown Attorney be allowed
to put up a draft..
President: Mr. Lewis will you have any objection-To putting up a draft on.
this matter?
Honourable Crown Attorney : I have no objection to that; but I suggest I
should have, the aid of a committee.
Honourable Member for South Windward: I suggest .that the right wing of
this table be appointed to forjn that committee. i~essrs. Hughes, He.dley, Duncan
and De Freitas, with the Crown Attorney.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attoiney : I beg to move that the Committee rise and the
President report back to the Council.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer-: I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
President: Honourable Members, I have the honour to report that the
Agriculture Bill was committed to a Select Committee comprising the Honourable
Crown Attorney, The Honourables W. A. Hadley, E: A. C. Hughes, E. Duncan; and
S. G. De Freitas.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the President's report be adopted.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question'put and agreed to. ~
Honourable Crown-Attorney : I have the honour to move that the Agricultural
Livestock (Annual Census) Bill be read a second time.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a second time.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I move that the Council resolve itself into a
Committee of the whole Council to consider the Bill clause by clause.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer: I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.









In Committee.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes: Members of Committee, I am,. always have
been, and always will be, fundamentally opposed to any Bill that I think can not
be properly enforced, or can only be enforced by the expenditure of a great deal of
money. I do not know how many of you have read this bill, but it seems to me
that it will be impossible to enforce it. Every man who owns a bit of land will
have to make a return of everything he reaped during the year. We have many
illiterate and semi-literate people who will ignore the Law and the only way this
will be able to be enforced is by the appointment of a small army to go out into the
highways and byeways. I know that following the passage of this bill we will be
asked to vote more money for more staff in order that the provisions of the bill
may be enforced. I would like to know why it is necessary that there should be
such a law on the Statute book. The reason I oppose first of all is that the bill
will either become .a dead letter or prove very expensive to enforce. The
Agricultural Department will find it impossible to enforce these provisions without
imposing an overwhelming burden on taxpayers. I do not think that it is
necessary and I will oppose it clause by clause.
President: I fully appreciate what Mr. Hughes said. While I agree,
nevertheless we are to remember the fact that the United Kingdom is now very
much under pressure by reason of its non-self-governing territories, and they have
been asked to supply certain statistics to the Food and Agriculture Organisation
of the United Nations. The reason for the Bill is that the particular statistics
cannot be collected without the necessary legislation. It is important that the
Colonial Office should do everything in their power to comply with the requests of
the United Nations Organisation. The point is that we do definitely lack statistics.
We will have to get these as time goes on. I have had discussions with the
Agricultural Superintendent as to how he will collect the actual information, and
he said that it will be possible to be handled by the agricultural officers in the
districts. It is well for us to begin.
Honourable W. A. Hadley: I agree with Mr. Hughes to some extent with
regard to how the information is going to be collected. I am not quite certain but
I think we used to submit voluntary information of this kind when Mr. Robinson
was here years ago. But the information was so inadequate that I don't think he
could make any proper use of it. I cannot see that it is the proper time for a bill
showing what we produce and what we could produce, and I honestly don't think
we have money enough to see it carried out. I think it is going to take a great
deal of work here and there and the returns would be inaccurate.
President : Is there any further debate on this bill?
Honourable Member for North Windward : To me what His Honour has said
is quite understandable, and I feel we should pass this bill. I view it as being of
more than local interest and, with the demand from the outside for information
on these particulars, if we do not fall into line with other places we might create
the unfavourable impression that we are not co-operative in giving necessary
information. I feel that it will be fairly difficult to arrive at the exact figures, but
I think that we ought to make a try to fall in line with other places.
Honourable Member for South Windward : I agree, but I, like Mr. Hughes
am doubtful that the great quantity of information required by the bill could be
collected. Personally, I feel if the co-operation of the people especially at this
stage could be got, there is no reason to introduce this bill into the Legislative
Council.






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Honourable Membbr forK)ingstown : I think on the same lines as the 4ast
speaker.- I am wondering whether it will be possible to get the statistics,but when
. hearing the explanation on this matter, I am fully convinced it is essential to pass
this measure. We have to fall in-line with other places. I think it is time. that
our people be trained. I-see no objection in passing this bill.
President : We are expected to put, in our figures by the middle of 1951. 1
notice here on the file that in 1946 there was supplied some information similar tf.
what is being asked for now. How was that information collected?
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : That.vias collected, entirely differently.
SQuestion that the bill be proceeded with put to the vote.
Result of the voting was 4 for and 4 against. The President gave his casting .
vote in favour of proceeding with the bill.
Clause 2-Interpretation.
SQuestion,put and agreed to:
Clause 3-Annual returns of cultivated land, crops and live stock.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 4-Superintendent's power of entry.
Question put- and agreed to.
Clause 5-Pep alties,
Question thatAhe proposed fines be halved put and agreed to. ,
Schedule.
Question'put and agreed to.
Clause 1-Short title.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the Committee now rise, and the
presiding member report back to the Council.
S -Honourable Colonial Treasurer; I second the motion.,
S Question put and .greed to.
President: Honourable Members, I beg to report that the Agricultural and
SLivestock (Annual Census) Bill passed through the Committee stage with a few
amendments.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the report be adopted.
: HoDourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put' and agreed to. /
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that the Bill be read a third
'time by title and passed.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the nioon.m
S.Question put and agreed to by a majority ,Honourable E. A. C. Hughes opposing
-the third'readirrg. .-
Bill read a third time.
Honourable COlonial Treasurer : Mr. President, Honourable Members, I mve
that the Income-Tax (Amendment) Bill be read a second time. *
SHonourable Crown Attorney i I second the motion.
Honourable E. A.-C. Hughes: Mr. President, Honourable Members, I move
t 'that thq second reading of this bill be deferred for one year from this date,
Honourable Member for Kingstewi : I beg-to second the mption.







SHonourable Member for South Windward: This ordinance is being brought
"iA to campel people to do things which .could best be done voluntarily. To me it
r serves to give the impression that the Government is going to scrape every drop of
blood out of .the unfortunate taxpayer in full support of the income tax
commissioners.
Honourable Crown Attorney : An inspector of Income. Tax was appointed but
he was given no powers. This bill seeks to give him certain powers which are not
Already in existence under the Ordinance. I have never heard of anybody coming
Forward to give information voluntarily. Whatever is done about section 2, where
section 3 is concerned, this should be passed, because at the present moment
sections 39, 40 and 41 of the Ordinance which are already in existence are useless
because it is impossible to impose any penalties if these sections are not observed
by a taxpayer.
.Honourable W. A. Hadley : It seems to me that the usual way of getting an
individual to pay income tax without sending in a return is to assess him. If he
pays it without grumbling the assessment is increased until it comes to a point
where it pays to keep books. This bill to re 'is going too far, and the subject's
liter.ty is going to be taken away from him. You may ha4/e a good officer now but
the income tax Officer may some day be changed and you may -get a very
undesirable person. I feel that I would be doing wrong to the citizens if I allow
this bill to pass.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : The objects of this bill were so revolting that I
overlooked section 3. This~is a vital section and therefore I would withdraw w my
motion, but I intend to oppose the passing of section-2.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : I feel that the majority of the people
called upon to pay income tax are small people, and it is impossible for them to
keep accurate returns. They will have to pay somebody to keep their books and it
will be a hardship. I still maintain that this bill should be withheld for one year.
S' Honourable E. A. C. Hughes: Sections 39, 40 and 41 of the ordinance call for
certain returns, but there is no-section which makes it in offence to fail to friake -
these returns. Section 3 is to'correct that and provide for apenalty.
Honourable. Member fr South Windward: I' agree that the penalty is
appropriate in order to carry out their duty. Everybody must make a return.
Honourable W. A. Hadley : If that is the case, I withdraw the-statement I
made previously on the.matter and I agree to clause 3.
Question that the Bill be read a-second time put and agreed to.
Clause 2-Section'3 of principal Ordinance amended. -
SHonourable E. A. C. Hughes : I move that section 2 be deleted.
Question put and agreed to. -
Clause 3-(renumbered 2) New section added.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause'1-Short title.
Question put and-agreed to.
S" Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to move that the Committee rise and
Sthe-Presiding Member report back to the Counidil.
, Honourable Crown Attorney : I second the motion. -
*. -- Question put and agreed to. /




.- .- .-

President: Honourable Members I have the honour to report that the
Income Tax (Amendment) Bill was taken through the Committee stage, and was
amended by the deletion of section 2 and the re-numbeiing of section 3 as section 2.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I move that the report be adopted.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I second the motion.
Question put-and agreed to.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I move that the Bill be.real a third time by
title and passed.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to;
Bill read a third time.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I move that the Loah (Economia
Development) Bill'be read a second time.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to .
Bill read a second time.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I move'that the Council resolve itself into a
Committee of the whole Council to consider the Bill clause by clause.'
Honourable Crown Attorney : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.

In Committee.
Clause 2-Interpretation.
Honorable Colonial Treasurer : -I suggest that the word "England in the
definition of Crovn Agents be replaced by the words United Kingdom "
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 3-Governor or Crown Agents may raise Loan in England.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : Here again "England" in the marginal
note should be changed to United Kingdom ".
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 4-Loan to be a charge on the revenue and assets of the Colony.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 5-Purposes for which loan to be applied.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 6-Loan may be raised under Ordinance- No. 14 of 1950, or as the Governor
or Crown Agents may decide.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 7-Sinking fund to commence not later than 3 years from date on which
interest coirmences.
Question put and .agreed to.
Clause 8-Provisions to apply if loan is raised, independently of Ordinance No. 14
of 1950.
Question put and agreed to.
Schedule.
Question put and agreed to.
Clause 1-Short title.
Question put and agreed to.
Honorable Colonial Treasurer-I move that the Committee rise-and the
Presiding Member report back to the Cournil.







Honourable Crown Attorney: I second the motion.
Questioffput and agreed to.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer: I move that the President's report be
adopted.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I move that the Bill be read a third time by
title and passed.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read, a third time.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that this Council adjourn sine
die.
Honourable Colonial- Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Council Adjourned.

HENRY H. WILLIAMS;
Acting Clerk of Legislative Council.


Confirmed 2nd August 1951
W. F. COUTTS,
Administrator.







APPENDIX TO MINUTES OF LEG. CO. OF 5TH APRIL, 1951.

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF SAINT VINCENT.

SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BILL.

Mr. President and Honourable Members;
We having, at a meeting of the Legislative Council held on 1st March, 1951 been
constituted a Select Committee to consider the Bill for an Ordinance to provide
for the establishment of Local Authorities for Towns and Villages, beg to report as
f allows :

MEETING OF COMMITTEE.
The Select Committee held one meeting at the Council Chamber on Monday
12th March, 1951, at which all the members were present. The Honourable P.
Cecil Lewis, Crown Attorney was elected Chairman. Mr. C. G. Huggins, Local
Government Officer, was summoned to the meeting and assisted the Committee in
its deliberations, and Mr. Henry H. Williams, Acting Clerk of the Legislative
Council, performed the duties of clerk.

TIHE BILL
The Chairman explained that the bill proposed only one important change in
the existing law i.e. with regard to the qualifications for electors, and the
qualifications for members-of the local authorities. It was intended to introduce
universal adult suffrage, as was proposed for the Legislative Council. Otherwise
the bill was little more than a consolidation of existing ordinances.
The Committee proceeded to consider the Bill clause by clause.

Sections 1-5 were agreed to. /

Section 6: "Powers of Governor in Council to create urban and village districts
and define boundaries.
Mr. Mc Intosh felt that the Legislative Council should be given some control
under this section. The Crown Attorney was of the opinion that members of the
Legislative Council c6uld exercise such control by the introduction into the
Legislative Council of suitable motions in cases where they saw the need for the
establishment of a local authority or for the changing of the boundaries of an
urban or a village district. '
The section was agreed to.

Section 7--Village Councils.
There was a long discussion as to whether or not a sub-section should be
added to the effect that the existing Village Councils of Troumaca and Marriaqua
should be deemed to have been established under the Ordinance, or whether it
would be necessary to re-create them after the- passing of the Ordinance. The
Crown Attorney finally advised that in his view their position was secured by the
saving clause under Section 61, and the section was accepted.
Section 8-Capacity of Local Authorities.
No Amendment-


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Sectien9--Local Authority to consist of six members.
This section-would mean a reduction by two in the number of members of the
Village Councils. It was thought that the existing number was designed to give
local representation to the several villages comprising the village districts. 'Mr.
Joachim however pointed out that if this was the intention"it had been defeated
in the case of the Troumaca Village Council where all the present members were
from the Village of Troumaca itself. It was felt that establishment of polling
booths in the several villages would remove this state of affairs. It was agreed
That a local authority should consist of.six members.
SSections 10-11 Agreed to..

Section 12-First meeting of local authority after constitution.
It was the Committee's view-that provisionshould be made for the appointment-
of a chairman in the event of a local authority being unable to elect one. Mr.
-Joachim-pointed out that such a situation was not .an impossibility, since on two
occasions every member of the Barrouallie Town Board had-declined to serve as
;Chairman-when nominated for the office.
The Crown Attorney said that in the case of the Kingstown Board provision.
existed for appointment-of a Chairman by the Governor in,Council in such a case,
but-he had not included it in the bill as. he felt it was a retrograde step, and was of
the opinion that such a situation was unlikely to arise. He -had however been
forced to change his opinion in the light of Mr. Joachim's remnarks.-
Mr. Me Intosh felt that if no-member of a, local authority would accept
nomination to the-office he could not be compelled to do so, and provision should
be made for.nomination of a Chairman from outside of the Authority, preferably
the Local Government Officer.
Mr. Bonadie felt that inability to appoint a Chairman would be an indication
of inability on-the part of a local. authority to perform its duties and an authority
that failed to elect a Chairman after twice attempting to do so should be dissolved
Sunder; section 32.
It was agreed that the following proviso should be added at tho end of
..subsection (1) .:-
Provided that in the event of the inability of the .local authority to elect a
Chairman the Governor in Council shall be:empowered to appoint a Chairman."
In subsection (2) after the word Chairman" in the second line the word
on "-was:added, and the last word times was replaced by the word "occasions".
Sect4ns 13 and 14-No change except the correction of a typographical error at
the end of subsection (1) of section 14 where the word "year's should ae
S spelt 'years' ".
. Section 15--Qualifications of members of a local authority.
SAt the end of (e) the full stop should be changed to a comma, .and the words
"and a registered voter for the- said district." added.
S section 16-Forfeiture of seat by member.
With reference to 'subsection (1) (e) Mr. Me Intosh pointed out that n the
case of the Kingstown Board it had been necessary to enact special legislation
making it lawful for the Chairman and members to receive pay.. fIe suggested
that it might be desirable to state in the Ordinance that the offices of Chairman








and, member of a local authority should not be taken to be. offices of profit; The-
Crown Attorney however felt that this would only be necessary in the event of
provision being made for the payment of the Chairman and members. No such
provision was made in the Bill and it was generally felt that it would-be some
considerable time before ..the local authorities would be in a position to make such
payments. No change was recommended.
Section 17-Resignation of member.
The word the" appearing in.the first line was changed to "a ".
Section 18-Appointment of Warden and Deputy W,arden.
Mr. Boadie felt very strongly that the approval of the Governor should not be
necessary for the appointment or dismissal of the warden4 bf a local authority. He
( thought that- the local authority should have the last word in. all matters
pertaining to the officers and servants of the authority. He considered it very
vital to the- political development of the West Indies that an ever increasing.
amount of responsibility should be placed in tha hands of local authorities, and in
this respect the Bill did not go far enough, since the retention of the necessity to
seek the Governor's approval in such matters was a sign that the local authorities
were not given full powers in the management of their own affairs. He said that
in times past the warden was more or less the master of the .authority, and the
members were only his. advisers. The position had altered and the warden was
nowtheservant of the authority. He further suggested that the name warden"
should be replaced by clerk ". Long ago the town or village was properly the
ward of this officer, but it was not so nowadays and in most places the equivalent
officers wer6ecalled town clerks or village clerks as the case may be.
Although the Committee felt that there was some substance in Mr. Bonadie's
suggestion in connection with the Governor's approval it was felt that there should
be someone to whom an appeal could be made, and'the necessity of the Governor's
approval would give the officers of a local authority a sense of security. His.
suggestion for the change of the name -'warden" to "clerk" was accepted. It
was accordingly agreed that this change should be made wherever the word
'warden" appeared in the Bill.
Other amendments'in this sectiofi were :
subsection (1)--thG word "warden"' in the third line was replaced by
the words clerk, to the authority."
subsection (2) -the words "a warden were replaced by the clerk ".
subsection -(4)-" a in the second line was changed to the "
Section 19-Powers and duties of warden (now clerk),
Subsection (3): It was thought that it was sometimes -impracticable to
obtain the services of a suitable person residing, in the district to be clerk to an
authority and it was recommended that this subsection should be deleted.
Section 20-Salary of Warden (now clerk).
Mr. Bonadie repeated his arguments i-n connection with section 18 for the
deletion of the words with the approval of the Governor in 'Council" appearing
in line 4 of this section: The Local Government Officer however advised-that
from a recent experience with one of the Town Boards'he felt it very-necessary
for this provision to be retained, and the Committee agreed that the safeguard
was necessary." ,








Sections 21-29.
No change except the changing of the word warden to "clerk wherever Jt
appeared in sections 27 and 28.
Section 30--Questions at elections.
The word 'the in the last line was replaced by an '7
Section'31-Disputes.
The words "in which the dispute arose" were added between the words
"district and and in the fourth line.
Section 32-Power of Governor in Counbil to dissolve local Authority.
Agreed.
Section 33-Assessment lists in regard to houses, land, private water service and
traders in urban districts.
Sub-section (1) the word February was substituted for the word January"
in the second line.
Sub-section (i) (c) was replaced as follows :
All persons carrying on business as traders in the district, or in the absence
from the Colony of such persons, of all agents in actual charge or, control of the
said business;"
Section 34-Amount of rates.
The Local Government Officer explained that It was intended to levy a single
rate instead of two separate rates as at present in respect of houses and lots of
land and the general water rate. The following amendments were agreed to:-
Subsection- (1) in the third line after' the word "service" the words "and
traders were added and "rate was changed to "rates."
A fullstop 'was put after the word by-laws in the fourth line, and all the
words from upon in that line to dollars "'in the eleventh line-were deleted.
The words "possession of the stock" at' the end bf the sub-section were
replaced by the words control of the business ". In Sub-section (5) the word
"inspecting" was substituted for the words assessing the value of ". It was
pointed out that it was intended to levy a rate not on the value of a trader's stock,
but according to the type of business carried on. There would be no purpose
therefore in assessing the stock, but inspection was necessary to ensure that the
trader dealt only in the type of goods for which he paid a rate.
Section 36-Assessment Books.
In addition to changing the word "warden to 'clerk", sub-section (2)1 was
amended by replacing the word copies" in the second line by a copy",
changing lists in the third line to list ", deleting all the words from the word
places t6 the end of the sub-section and substituting therefore the words office
of the local authority or any other conspicuous place in the district."
Section 37-Traders to keep stock book.
In view of the explanation given in connection with sub-section (5) of section
34, it was agreed that this whole section should be deleted and the following
sections re-numbered accordingly.
SSection 38 to 40 remumbered 37 to 39.
Section 41 (re-numbered 40)-EXclusion from assessment lists.
the word and figures 'Fsection 31" amended to section 33.'








With reference to (a) Mr. Joachim said that in the case of the Barrouallie
Town Board the rates collected on public buildings formed an important part of-.
their revenue, and he felt that it would. be a hardship if these buildings were
exempt from the payment of rates. The majority felt however that public
buildings should be exempt, but that a compensatory increase in-the Government
grant to the authority should be made.'
Section 42 (re-numbered.41)-Notice of appeal against assessment.
In the second line" 32 and 33 was 'hanged to "33 and 34."
Sections 43-45 re-numbered 42-44-No -change except substituting "-clerk "
for "warden in the sixth line of sectiorn-44 (re-numbered 43).-
Section 46 (re-numbered 45)-Magistrate's proceedings subsequent to decision of
appeals.
The words -from and in the fourth line to book in the sixth were deleted,
and the word shall" was inserted, between the words and" and collect in
the last line.
Sections 47-52 re-numbered 46-51.
Section 53 (re-numbered 52).
The word "'village in the marginal note was changed to "local authority ".
Section 54-57-No change except renumbering' to 53-56
Section 58 (re-numbered 57) a marginal note Miscellaneous offences was inserted
Section 59 (re-numbered 58)-By-laws.
The symbol (1) was-inserted at the beginning of the section. Under (z)
the word huckster was replaced by or" a semi-colon was inserted after the
word vendor the words or trader were deleted and replaced by and for the
levying of a rate on traders-: "
Mr. Mc Intosh felt that a local authority of an urban district should have
control of its beach and fore-shore and the following was added at the end of
subsection (1) (cc) for'the control of the fore-shore or beach of an urban district
'and the collection of taxes on any goods lying thereon : "
Section 60 was re-numbered 59 and a pew section 60 was added as follows:-
"Power of 60. The Governor in Council may by order enlarge the time
Governor in or alter the date fixed for the performance of any duty under this
Council to ordinance." .. ..
enlarge time
or alter date.
Second Schedule-
Part II -The column headed "Assessed Rent" was removed. The word
"traders was added between for '"and rates "; and
Part III-the column headed "Assessed value of stock was removed.
Objects and Reasons.
In' paragraph 4 British Subjects was-replaced by a British subject."
P. CECIL LEWIS,
(Chairman) -
_GEO. A.-MeINTOSH, Members of Select Committee.
E. A. JOACHIM,
S. F. BONADIE,


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MINUTES OF A MEETING OF. THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF ST. VINCENT
HELD'IN THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL CHAMBER ON THURSDAY 3RD MAY,
1951.

PRESENT
His Honour W. F. COUTTs, Administrator (President),
The Honourable P. CECIL LEWIS, Crown Attorney,
V. D. ARCHER, Colonial Treasurer,
S' W. A. HADLEY, Nominated Member,.
O. D. BRISBANE, Nominated Member,
E. A. C. HUGHES, 'Nominated Member,
S G. A. MCINTOSH, Member for Kingstown,
E. DtUNCAN, Member for North.Windward,
S E. A. JOACHIM, Member for Leeward,
S S. F. BONADIE, Member for South Windward.

ABSENT
The Honourable S. G. DEFREITAS, Member for the Grenadines.

1. PRAYERS.
The meeting was opened with prayer.

2. MINUTES.
The minutes of the meeting of the Council held on 2nd November, 1950, were
taken as read and were confirmed without amendment.

3. ANNOUNCEMENTS.
President: Honourable Members 9f Council, we have a heavy day in front of
us in that there .are two very long bills whichI wish to ask you to take through all
stages at this meeting as a matter of'urgency. I do not propose to take up your
time any longer, other than to read to you two Certificates of Urgency in
connection with these Bills.
President's Certificate of Urgency under. Rule 39 (3) of the Legislative Council
Rules, 1950.
WHEREAS it is provided in .Rule 30 (1) of the Legislative Council Rules, 1950
(S.R. & O. 1950, No. 60) that not less than seven days' notice shall be given of the
presentation of a bill or of a motion for leave to bring in.a bill;
AND WHEREAS it is provided in Rule 30(3-) of the said Rules that a bill mentioned
in the President's certificate ma.y be introduced without leave if a certificate of
urgency signed by the President shall have been laid on the table.
I Do THEREFORE by virtue of the powers vested in me by Rule 30 (3) of the
aforesaid rules hereby certify that the presentation to this Council of the
Legislative Council (Elections) Bill, 1951', is-a matter of urgency.
Dated this 30th day of April, 1951.

(Sgd.) W. F; COUTTS,
President,







President's Certificate df Urgency under Rule 30 (3) of the Legislative Council
Rules, 1950.
WHEREAS it is provided in Rule.30 (1) of the Legislative Council Rules, 1950
(S.R. & 0. 1950, No. 60) that not less than seven days' notice shall be given of the
presentation of a bill or-of a motion for leave to bring in a bill;
AND WHEREAS it is provided.in Rule 30(3) of the said Rules that a bill mentioned
in the President's certificate' may be introduced without leave if a certificate of
urgency signed by the Presideht-shall have been laid on the table.
I Do THEREFORE by virtue of the powers vested in me by Rule 30 (3) of the
aforesaid rules hereby certify that the presentation-to this Council of the Hydro;
electric. Bill, 1951, is in the public interest.
_Dated this 30th day of April, 1951.

-(Sgd.) W. F.'COUTTS,
President.


4. NOTICES OF MOTIONS.
There were no Notices of Motions.

5. PETITIONS.
There were no Petitions.

6. PAPERS. -
Honourable Crown Attorney : Mr. President Hohourable Members of Council,
I have the honour to lay before Council the following paper (in typescript) :
Report on the St. Vincent Police Force for the year 1950.

7. NOTICES OF QUESTIONS.--
Honourable Member for Leeward: Your Honour, Honourable Members, I
give notice that I shall ask the following questions at a subsequent meeting of this
Council :-
1. Will Government please state what is the-present position relative to the
erection of a School at Rose Hall?
2. Will Government please say how soon it is intended to start the
o reconstruction of the Leeward Highway?
3. Will Government please state how soon the Public Works Department
intends to do the proposed improvements to the dangerous corners at
"Jameson Hole on the Leeward Highway?
4. In view of the fact that the people of Spring Village, Coulls Hill and
Troumaca are experiencing great difficulties in finding somewhere to put
their houses, will Government please take steps to provide house spots for
the people in these areas?
5. Will Government please state what is the present position relative to the
_removal of the Caribs from Rose Bank?
6. Will Government please take steps to control-the erosion which is taking'
place at the Glebe, Barrouallie on the Leeward Highway?








S8. QUESTIONS.
Honourable Member for Kingstown: Your Honour, Honourable Members, I
ask leave to ask the following questions standing in my'name-:-
: Q. .1. In view of the -fact that the housing scheme for rental of house at
Montrose to poor persons has not been carried out, will Government
consider repairing the Low Point house and dividing it up into rooms so.
that persons with slender means can be accommodated there at small
rental?
A, Low Point is not considered suitable for this type of housing project, and in
any event the dost of- Iaking this house habitable will not be justified by
the number of persons-it can accommodate.
Q. 2. Will Government please state what is the present pifition with regard to .
the intended extension of Kingstown?
A. The position as stated in a reply to a question by the Honourable Member
on the same subject at the meeting of this Coluncil on-2nd November, 1950,
remains unchanged.
President: Honourable Members, .on the. Order Paper the next thing is a
Motion td be moved by the Crown Attorney in respect of'a draft agreement and
-licence which Government proposes to enter into with the Colonial Development
Cdrporatiolr It would appear to me that in view of the fact that this Agreement
and Licence form the Schedule to the bill, it would/be more convenient to deal with
it as a schedule rather than a separate resolution.
Would that meet with the wishes of-Council?
Agreed;.
President : I now call upon the Honourable Member for Kingslown to nove :
"the motion standingin his name,.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : I ami going to ask leave to have this
motion deferred for a subsequent meeting of Council, in view of the fact that the
- carrying-through of this motion by this Council alone may not have the desjxe.d.
effect.. I am communicating with other Councils in the Windward Islands; -aid
would like first to get their views before proceeding.
President: I now call upon the Honourable E. A. C. Hughes to move the
motion standing in his name.
Honourable i. A. C. Hughes -.. Your Honour, Honourable Members, I also 'am
going to ask-to have my motion deferred for .the simple reason, as your Honpur
pointed out, ;:hat we hive a heavy Agenda before us, and as this motion is a very
contentious matter-I shoidld prefer, with Your IHonour's permission, to -have it-
deferred.
President : I-now call upon the Honourable Colonial Treas~urr to move the
motion standing in his name.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer: Your Honour, Honourable Members, I ask
leave to move that this Council approves the Schedules of Additional Provision
required to meet expenditure in excess of the Estimates for the year 1950, for the
period- October to December 1950.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to second the motion.
Motion accepted without amendment.
president : I now call upon the Honourable Member for South Windward to
move the motion standing in his name. -"







Honourable Member for South Windward : Your Honour,. Honourable
Members, I beg leave to move the following motion standing in my name :-
That this Council approves the introduction of a Bill for an Ordinance for
the incorporation of certain persons as Trustees of the Mission known as the
General Council of Co-operating Baptist Missions of North America.
.The object/of this bill,-Sir, is-to incorporate as a body the Trustees of the General
Council of Baptist Missions for the purpose of operating in St. Vincent in trust for
the Mission.
These people are not British subjects or of British nationality, and, in order to
be able to own or hold property, a bill such as this will have to be passed in the
Legislative Council.
There is precedent for this sort of bill, as a bill of similar nature was
introduced some years ago.
SI don't know myself why I was selected to introduce this bill, but perhaps it
is because the Members of the Mission heard that I had serious aspirations once of
going in for holy orders.
Honourable Member for Leeward : Your Honour, Honourable Members, I beg
leave to second the motion.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I will have to study the bill further again; as I
did not realise that the persons whom it is intended to incorporate are not British
Subjects. I would, therefore, like to examine this aspect of the bill.,'
President: Question as to ',whether introduction of this bill should be
deferred-is put to the House.
Honourable Meimber for South Windward : Could the bill not be introduced
and left there? You don't usually throw out a bill like that.
President : The question as to whether we grant leave to introduce the bill
*is before the House.
Agreed to. .
Bill read a first time
President : I now call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the
introduction and-first reading of the Legislative Council (Elections) Bill, 1951.
Honourable Crown Attorney : -Mr. President, Honourable Members of Council,
I beg-leave to introduce and have read-for a first time a bill for an Ordinance to
provide for the Registration of-Persons entitled to vote at Elections of Merff-ers of
the Legislative Council, to regulate the Procedure at such Elections, and for other
purposes in connection therewith.
It is hardly necessary to dilate on the reasons of this Bill which are to provide
for the registration, on the basis of universal adult suffrage, of voters, and to'
regulate the procedure for elections.
The Bill is based on the Trinidad Legislative Council (Elections) Ordinance
No. 10 of 1946, with its amendments.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed te.
Bill read a first time.,
Honourable-Crown Attorney: I beg to move that the Standing Rules and
Orders of this Council be suspended in order to allow this bill to be taken through
,all stages at this meeting.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer-: I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.








Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that a Bill for an Ordinance to
provide for the Registration of personsentitled to vote at Elections of Members of
the Legislative Council and to regulate the procedure at such Elections and for
other purposes in connection therewith be-read a second time.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer :- I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a. second time.
Honourable Crown Attorney : -I beg to move that the Council resolve itself
into a Committee of the whole Council to consider this Bill clause by clause.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion. -
Question put and agreed to.
President : With Honourable Members' permission I .propose to ask the
Labour Commissioner, who has largely been instrumental in preparing this Bill, to
sit in on the Bill.
Agreed.

In Committee.
Honorable Crown -Attorney : I' would like to point out that certain
amendments to this Bill will be necessary when the St. Vincent Legislative Council
Order-in-Council, 1951, has been received from the Secretary of State.
Clause 2-Interpretation.
Question that Clause 2 stand part of the Bill put and agreed to.
Clause 3-Electoral'district.
Question that Clause 3 stand part of the Bill put and agreed to:
Honorable Crown Attorney : Between Clause 3 and Clause 4 I would like to
insert the words PART II. REGISTRATION OF ELBCTO'RS ".
Amendment agreed to.
Clause 4-Qualifications of electors.
Question that Clause 4 stand part of the Bill put and agreed to.
Clause 5-Disqualification of electors.
Honourable Crown Attorney : There has been a suggestion in one or two of
the other Islands of the Group that there should be a further electors qualification
making it necessary for a person to reside ih his Electoral district for a period of 6
months prior to the election. This has been done as a safeguard against a person
voting in more than one electoral district. In considering, this point we must,
however, think of the greater evil which might result tlierefrom, viz that it might
prevent-certain people from voting at all. I do not know whether Honourable
Members consider it necessary to make this amendment.
Honourable Member for Kingstown: As long as'a person is,registered in a
district he must have been resident there. /
President: If you had two political parties and one party felt certain of -
obtaining a seat in the district, they could arrange for 200 or 300 persons to
register there, so that they could vote for a party candidate in that district. In
order to prevent that, this additional qualification has been proposed.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : But a voter can only vote in one district.








President: While he can only vote in one district, he could live in one.
district and votein another. But do you think it-necessary to make this provision?
We may, by introducing this, prevent some people from voting at all. It is now
May, and if we are to have the Elections in September and somebody moves now
from one district to another he will be unable to vote.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes': That would be a very difficult provision to
enforce. Hovwis the Registration Officer to find out whether a person has been
Sliving'ih a district for six-months or six years.--
Honourable O. D. Brisbane: As long as 15rovision -exists that one person
cannot vote twice I think this section can stand as it is.
Mr. Jack (Labour Commissioner) : The Registration Officers have already
been told to keep-in touch.one with the other in cases of doubt.
S Question that Clause 5 stand part of the bill put and agreed to;
Honourable Crown Attorney: The words "PART II REGISTRATION OF
ELECTORS" should be removed from page 4 and I-move an amendment to this
Effect.
Aniendment put and agreed to
Clause 6-Compiling lists of electors.
Question that clause 6 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 7-Polling Divisions.
Question lhat Clause 7 stand part of the bill put and agreed to..
-. Clause 8-Registration Officers.
Question that ClauSe 8 stand:part of the Bill put and agreed to.
Clause 9-Registration duties. 2nd Schedule.
President With clause 9 you must examine'the Second Scledule which is
on page 69. Do Members wish to go through this section by section.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer :' There, are various amendments.
Rule 1-Form of liet of electors.
Agreed.
Rule 2-Commencement of enumeration.
SHonourable Crown Attorney: This rule has been deleted and a new rule
2 substituted. The idea is that instead of specific dates, periods dating from the
appointed day" shall be prescribed. ,
questioin that Rule 2 as amended stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 3-Appointment of-enumerators.
Question that:RRule 3 stand part-of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule-4--Qualification of enumerator.
Question that Rule 4-stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 5--Removal by Supervisor of Elections.
Question, that Rule 5 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.-
Rule 6-Oath of office of enumerator.
Question that Rule 6 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 7-Registration Notice.
Questi(Xi -that R'ule 7 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.





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Rule 8-House to House enquiry..
Honourable Crown Attorney : Substitute the words ", appointed day for the
words 16th day of April 1951 in the second line. s
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : Would it not be possible for all amendments to
the Rules to be indicated now, instead of going through all the Rules?
Rule 9-Complete enumeration.
Question that Rule'9 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to..
- Rule 10-Penalty.
Question that Rule 10 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 11 -Enumeration.
-Question that Rule 11 stand part of:the Schedule put and agreed to.
SRule 12-Certified preliminary lists to be sent to registration-officer..
Honourable Crown Attoriey : -Substitute the words "ten days after the
appointed day for the words the 25th day of April; 1951" in line two.
Question that Rule 12 as amended stand part of the Schedule put and agreed
to.
Rule 13-Enumerator to certify copies of preliminary list.
Honour.ble Crowni Attorney : After the word completed in line 3,; delete
the words on or about the 16th day of May, 1951 and substitute the words not
later than 31. days after the appointed day."
Question that Rule 13 as amended stand partof the Schedule put and agreed
to.
Rule 14-Distribution of certified copies of.preliminary lists.
-Question that Rule 14 stand part of the Schedule-put and agreed to.
Rule 15-Posting up of preliminary lists.
Honourable Crown Attorney : In line 1, after the word shall ", delete "on
the 20th day of May, 1951", and substitute "not later than 35 days after the
appointed day ", and delete all the words in the last line, and substitute- the words
"for a period of 20 days".
*Question that Rule 15 as amended stand part of the Schedule put and.agreed
to.
Rule 16-Oath of enumerator on completion of work.
Question that Rule 16 stand part of the Schedule put,and agreed to.
Rule 17-Registration Officer to-distribute to Post Offices copies of Forms
Nos. 9, 10, and 12.
Question that Rule,17 stand part of the Schedule put aid agreed to.
Rule 18-Notice of Revision.
Question that. Rule 18 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 19-Claims-to be delivered or posted to Registration Officer.
Honourable 'Crown Attorney.: In line 5 after the word than substitute "55
days after the appointed day" for the words "the 12th day of June, 1951".
Question that Rule 19 as amended stand part of the Schedule put and agreed
to,
Rule 20-Notice of objection to registration.
-iQestion that Rule 2,0 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 21-Notice of objection to claims.
Question that Rule 21 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to,







Rule 22-Form No. 10.
Question that Rule 22 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 23-Dates for making objections.
Honourable Crown Attorney : In line 2, after the word than delete the
words the 12th day of June, 1951," and substitute the words 55 days after the
appointed day ", and in the last line delete the words the 22nd day of June, 1951",
and substitute the words 65 days after the appointed day."
Question that Rule 23 as amended stand part-of the Schedule put and agreed
to.
Rule,24-Names on more than one list.
Question -that Rule 24 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 25-Notice of persons affected by objection.
Question that Rule 25 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 26-Publication of claims to insertion.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Foir the words the 17th day of June 1951"
'appearing in line 2, substitute 60 days after the appointed day ", and delete the
words until \he 22nd day of June, 1951 in the last line and substitute the words
for five days". -
Question that Rule 26 as amended stand part of theSchedule put and agreed
to. "
Rule 27-Publication of objections to registration.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Delete the words the 17th day of June 1951 "
in line 2 and substitute the words 60 days after the appointed 'day" and delete
the whole of the last line and substitute the vords for five days ".
Question that Rule 27 as amended stand part of the Schedule put and agreed
to.
Rule 28-Posting up the list of objections to claims.
Honourable Crown Attorney : In line two delete the words the 26th day of
June, 1951" and substitute the words "69 days after the appointed day ", and in
the last line delete the words ".until the 1st day of July 1951, and substitute the
words for a period of five days ".
Question that Rule 28 as amended stand part of the Schedule put and agreed
to. '
Rule 29--Considerdtion of objections.
Question that Rule 29 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 30-Consideration of claims.
Question that Rule 30 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 31-Correction of lists.
Question that Rule 31 stand part of the Schedule put and, agreed to.
Rule 32--Objection to corrections.
Question that Rule 32 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
S Rule 33-Completion of lists.
. Question that Rule 33 stand part of the Schedule put and .agreed to.
Rule 34-One copy of finally revised lists, to be posted to Supervisor of
Elections and the other kept for inspection by the public.
Honourable C'rwn Attorney: In line 4 after-the word "than" delete the








Words." the 19th day of July, 1951 ", and substitute the words 92 days after the
appointed day ".
Question that Rule 34 as amended stand part of the Schedule put and agreed
to. '
Rule 35-Description of polling, divisions and maps',and finally revised
lists to*be transmitted-to returning officer.
Question that Rule 35 stand part'of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 36-Insertion of names in printed lists.
Que on that Rule 36 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 37-Deletion of name& from printed lists.
Question that Rule 37 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 38-Publication of documents.
Question that Rule 38 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed-to.
Rule 39-Destroying or defacing documents.
Question that Rule 39 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 40-'Duty of Registration Officer to supply forms.
Question that Rule 40 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 41-Supply of copies of claims, objections, etc.
Question that Rule 41 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.-
Rule 42-Mode of sending notices.
Question that Rule 42 stand part of the Schedule plut and agreed to.
Rule 43-Information from householders, etc.
Question that Rule 43 stand-part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 44-Declarations-as to age and nationality.
Question that Rule 44 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 45-Hearing of claims and objections.
Question that Rule 45 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 46-Power to require evidence on oath.
Question that Rule 46 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Rule 47-False declaration.
Question that Rule 47 stand part of the Scheuile put and agreed to.,
Rule 48-Provisions as to misnomer or inaccurate description.
Question that Rule 48 stand part of the Schedule put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I would like to add a new Rule, as Rule 49-
Revocation-to read as follows :
S" the Legislative Council (Elected Members) Rules 1945 (S.R. & 0. 1945,
No. 81) are hereby revoked ".
Question that Rule 49, as inserted, stand part of the Schedule put and agreed
to.
President: With the substitution of a new clause 2 to the Rules; various
amendments to the dates in the Rules; and with the addition of a new clause 49,
may these Rules and Clause 9 stand part of the Bill?
Honourable Members : Aye -
SClause 10-Division of list.
.Question that Clause 10 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.








Clause 1--Appeals.
Question that Clause 11 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 12-Rules of Court.
Question that Clause 12 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.

PART III. .ADMINISTRATIVE PRoVISIONS;
Glause 13-Appointment, powers and duties of Supervisor of Elections.
Question that Clause 13 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
SClause 14-Returning Officers.
Question that Clause 14 stand part of the bill put and agreed toc
Clause 15-Election Clerks.
Question that Clause 15 sTand part of the bill put and.agreed to.
Clause 16-Substitute. Election Clerks.
Question that-Clause 16 stapd part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 17-Presiding Officers.
Question that Clause 17 stand part-of the bill put arid agreed to.
Clause 18-Poll Clerks. ..
Question that Clause 18 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 19-Oaths to be taken before, magistrate, Justice of the Peace, returning
ofifcer, presiding officer, or-poll clerk.
Question that Clause 19 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.

PART IV. ARRANGEMENTS FOR ELECTIONS.
Clause 20-Issue of 'writs for holding election.
Question that Clause.20 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 21-Notice of time and place of election.
Question that Clause 21 stand part of the:bill-put and agreed to.
Clause 22-Copies of lists of electors to be obtained.
Question that Clause 22 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
PROCEnRdJREATLECTION S.
Clause 23-Nomination of candidates.
~ Question that Clause 23 stand part of the bill-put and agreed to.
Clause 24-Disposal of deposit.
Honourable Crown Attorney: I would like to draw the attention of Council
to the word "shall-" in line 2 of C4) which it was suggested by the- Select
Committee hight be changed to "may ".
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes: You cannot have may" in this sub-section if
in sub-section (2) you have "shall" which is mandatory. You will have to tie up the
proviso in sub-section (4) with that in sub-section (2). If you want togive a man
a longer time to claim his deposit, increase it-from I to 3 months-then you will
have to make it 3 months in both cases, i.e. in sub-section (2) and sub-section (4).
Honourable Member for Kingstown: I do not consider that the deposit
should be forfeited at all. The man should be ableto collect it whenever he wished.
President: If you leave it on deposit indefinitely that would be making a
convenience of the Colonial Treasurer. Do you, Mr. McIntosh, propose that sub-
section (4) be deleted?
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Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : I move that sub-section 4 stand as it is. If the
deposit is not .claimed, the Colonial Treasurer will be holding the money in the air.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : I move the deletion of sub-section (4)
of clause 24.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes: What happens is that the money is deposited,
- and if a candidate. does not get the number of votes required, the Treasurer retains
the money. He cabnibly claim from the Treasury if he has obtained the required
number- of votes.
Honourable Member for South Windward : I want to be quite sure that what
you.say is so.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : You make-a deposit and'there are circumstances
in which you can get it back.
President: There is a motion by the Honourable Member for Kingstown that
sub-section (4) of Clause 24 be deleted. There is also a motion that sub-section 4
of clause 24 should stand as it is.
S 2 in favour of Mr. McIntosh's motion 6 against.
6 in favour of Mr. Hughes' motion against.
Honourable Member for South Windward : Provision should be made that no
candidate should lose his money just because he didn't apply for it within a month.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : My view is that he should get the
money no matter how long he waits to call for it.
President : With a record being made of Mr. McIntosh's and Mr. Bonadie's
views, may clause 24 stand part of the bill.
Honourable Members-.: Aye.
Clause 25-Uncontested elections.
Question that Clause 25 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 26-Contested election. Adjournment to take the poll.
Question that Clause 26 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 27-Powers to adjourn polling day in event of emergency.
Question -that Clause 27 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 28-Withdrawal of candidature.
Question that Clause 28 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
" Clause 29-Taking of poll and the-ballot.
Question that Clause 29 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 30-Establishment of polling stations.
Question that clause-30 stand part of the bill put and agreed to,
Clause 31-Supplie of election material.
Question that clause 31 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 32--nspection of polling stationby presiding officer'
Question that clause 32 stand part of the-bill put and agreed to.
Clause 33-Hours of taking the poll,
Honourable Member for Kingstown : If the polli-s not completed by 5 o'clock
what happens?
Honourable Crown Attorney : It would have to be completed by 5 o'clock.




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Honourable Member for South Windward : I suppose provision will be.made
to see that. it is completed by 5 o'clock.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : Persons who are there at the hour
should not be turned away.
Mr. Jack : Those who are Vctually within the building will be allowed to vote.
Those who are outside will not be allowed to vote.
Question that clause 33 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 34-Ballot boxes.
Question that clause 34 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 35-Electors to vote only in division upon list for which their names appear.
Question that clause 35 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 36-Penalty.
Honourable 0. D. Brisbane : I don't think it is right to impose such a drastic
penalty. I think a fine should be imposed as an alternative.
.Mr. Jack : This is a very serious offence. Other offences not so serious are,
punishable by fine or imprisonment.
Honourable Member for South.~Windward : Any person attempting to destroy
the.entire constitution of his country should be penalised by imprisonment and
nothing less. This is,a constitutional offence.
Honourable O.-D. Brisbane : I move an alternative of a fine of $250.
Honourable W. A. Hadley: You must realise that this is a penalty for a
person who deliberately votes twice.
Clause 37-Restriction on number of candidates for whose election vote may be
cast.
Honourable E. A. C. -Iughes : There seems to be no penalty attached to
SClause 37.
Mr. Jack : This is provided for under Part VI Election Offences.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Transpose sections 36 and 37 and amend the
words last preceding section" in line 2 of section 36 to read "*last two preceding
sections ".
President : In view of the fact-that no'penalty clause is attached to section
37, Sections 36 and 37 should be transposed, and an amendment made in line two
of 36.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : I still believe that any poor unfortunate
person-who does not know the proper proceeding should not be put into prison.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : If you are going to have benefits under the new
constitution, you must accept responsibility also.
Question that Clauses 36 and 37 as amended stand part of the bill put and
agreed to.
Clause 38-Transfer of electors in'special cases.
Question that clause 38 stand, part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 39-Where transferred electors to vote.
Question that clause 39 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.





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Clause 40-Proceedings atPoll.
Question that clause 40 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 41-Who are to be admitted within the polling station.
Question that clause 41 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
SClause 42-General mode of taking ballot.
Mr. Jack: Subseetion (6) of this cla-se should satisfy Mr. McIntosh's
contention that voters who are in the polling station should be allowed to vote after
five o'clock.
Clause 43-Questions which may be put to an elector.
Question that clause 43 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 44-Mode of tafcing ballot in special cases.
Question that clause 44' stand part of the bil put and agreed to.
Clause 45-Who may vote.
Question that clause 45 stand part of the bill'put and agreed to.
Clause 46-Who may be present.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : Under sub-section (1) the period of 5
minutes allowed is rather short. I suggest 15 minutes.
Mr. Jack-: In the case-of an incapacitated or blind person he may desire the
Presiding Officer to cast his vote for him. In that case the candidate should not
be there.
President : The proposal is that the time allowed for a candidate and his
agent-to be in the polling station at the same time should be 15 minutes, instead
of 5.
5 in favour.
Question that clause 46,As amended stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 47-Proceedings after poll.
Question that clause 47 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
SClause 48-Agent.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : Will the candidate:be allowed to remain
at the polling station even though he has appointed an Agent?
Mr. Jack: There is no objection to a candidate remaining at the polling
.station.
Question that clause 48 stand part of the bill put aad agreed to.
PART V-PROCEDURE SUBSEQUENT TO POLLING DAY.
Clause 49-Final counting of votes.
Question that clause 49 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
causee 50-Provisions applicable 'where ballot boxes not returned.
Question that clause 50 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Jlause 51--Declara+ion of the poll.
Question that clause 51 stand part of the bill put and'agreed to.
Clause 52-Election return.
Question that clause 52. stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 53-Penalty for delay, neglect or refusal of returning officer to return
elected candidate.
Question that clause 53 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.





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Clause .54-Power of Council to elect in event of equality of votes.
Question that clause 54 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 55-Custody of election documents by Supervisor of Elections.
Question that clause 55-stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 56-Custody of ballot boxes.
Question.that clause,56.stand part of the bill put and agreed to.

PART VI. ELECTION OFFENCES.
Clause 57-Intoxicating liquor not. to be sold or given.on polling day.
Question that cla-use 57 stand part of the bill put and agreed t0.
Clause 58-Employers to allow employees prescribed period for voting.
Question that clause 58 stand part of the bill.put and agreed to.
Clause 59-Offences by election, officers.
Question that clause 59 stand part of the bill put. and agreed to.
Clause 60-Loud speakers ensigns and banners prohibited on polling day.
Honourable Member for South Windward : I would like a full explanation of
sub-section (i).
Mr. Jack: So as to maintain order, we have prohibited the use of these
things. We may have, for instance, persons abusing one another.by means of
such things.
Sub-section- (3) makes provision for all these things by the candidates
themselves.
Question that clause 60 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 61-Definition of bribery.
Question that clause 61 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 62-Definition of treating.
Question that clause 62 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 63-Definition of undue influence.
Question that clause 63 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 64-Definition of personation.
Question that clause 64 stand part of the bill. put and agreed to.
Clause 65-Penalty for bribery, treating or undue influence.
Question that clause 65 stand part of the bill put-and agreed to.
Clause 66-Penalty for personation.
Question that clause 66.stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 67-Disqualification for bribery, &c.
Holiourable Crown Attorney : Change &c in the marginal note to etc.".
Question that clause 67 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 68-Penalty for certain illegal practices at elections.
Question that clause 68 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 69-Offences in respect of ballot papers.
Question that clause 69 stand part of the bill put and.agreed to.
Clause 70-Infringement of secrecy.
Question that clause 70 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 71-Maintenance of order at polling stations.
Question that clause 71 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.





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Claused72-Influencing of electors to vote for any candidate.
Question that clause 72 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.

PART VII. ELECTION PETITIONS.
Clause 73-Petitions against disputed elections.
Question that clause 73 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 74-Presentation of election petition and security for costs.
Question that clause 74 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 75-Trial of election petitions. Decision of judge final.
Question that clause 75 stand partof the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 76-Power of Judge. Summoning witnesses.
Question that clause 76 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.

PART VIII. MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS.
Clause 77-No obligation on voter to disclose vote.
SQuestion that clause 77 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 78-Conclusiveness of list of electors.
Question thatclause 78 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 79-Candidate nay act in person.
Question that clause 79 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 80-Name and address of agent.
Question that clause 80 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 81-Absence of agents.
Question that clause 81 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 82-Rules.
Question that clause 82 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 83-Expenses of Elections.
Question that clause 83 stand part of the bill'put and agreed to.
Clause 84-Computation of time.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : Why exclude holidays?
Mr. Jack: There are only two public holidays during the period.
Question that clause 84 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 85-Refusal of elector to take oath or affirmation or answer questions.
Interpreters.
Question that clause 85 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 86-Repeal Cap. 110 No. 16 of 1946.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Delete the word "and" in line 2 and change
"1946" in the third line to 1943 ", inserting thereafter the words "and the
Legislative Council (Elected Members) (Amendment) Ordinance, 1946 ", and in
the margin No.-16 of 1946..
Question that clause 86 as amended stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
First Schedule. .
President: Do Members wish to take the Forms one by one, or as a whole
with amendments?
Honourable Members : As a whole with amendments.
Honourable Crown Attorney : In Form 20 the word "regulations should be
changed to "rules", and in Form 24 the initial letters of the words "His Writ'"







should not be in capitals. Forms 26 and 26A will have to be amended as soon as
the St. Vincent (Legislative Council) Order-in-Council 1951 has been received and
published locally.
Question that Forms 1-46 comprising the firstt Schedule. to the Bill stand
part of the Bill put and agreed to.
Clause 1-Short title.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Delete the words from and in the 2nd line
to the end of the clause; and amend the marginal note by deleting the words and
commencement ".
Question that clause 1 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that the Committee rise, Council
resume, and the President report to the Council.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
President: Honourable Members, I have to report that an Ordinance cited
as the Legislative Council (Elections) Ordinance, 1951 has passed through the
Committee stage with various amendments.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the President's report be adopted.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
.Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney :II beg to move that the Legislative Council
(Elections) Bill, 1951 be read a third time by title and passed.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a third time.
(Mr. Jack withdraws).
President : I now call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the first
reading of a bill for an Ordinance to amend the Entertainments Ordinance, No. 43
of 1947.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg leave to introduce and have read for a
first time a bill for an Ordinance to amend the Entertainments Ordinance No. 43
of 1947. The object of this Bill is to empower the Governor in Council to remit any
fee or tax payable under the principal Ordinance where he is satisfied that it is in
the public interest to do so.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to. Bill read a first time.
President : I call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to. move the first
reading 6f a Bill for an Ordinance further to amend the Pensions Ordinance No. 16
of 1948.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Your Honour, Honourable Members of Council.
I beg leave to introduce .and have read foi, a first time a bill for an Ordinance
further to amend the Pensions Ordinance No. 16 of 1948.
The object of this Bill, as stated in the Objects and Reasons-clause, is to give
legislative effect to the Scheme drawn up by the Secretary of State whereby
Officers originally employed by Colonial Governments, and who subsequently
obtained employment with University Authorities, might be able to retire in






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pensionable circumstances. In other words, the officer will be able to carry his
pensioniable rights from the Colonial Service to the University.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read .a first time.
BILL IN COMMITTEE.
President : I.understand that the Select Committee on the Agriculture Bill
has not been able to meet.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Due to pressure on Members' time, the
- Committee has been unable to meet. It will therefor'e not be possible to take this
Bill through its further stages until the Committee has met.
President : I call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the second
reading of the General Loan and Stock (Amendment) Bill.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that the General Loan and Stock
(Amendment) Bill be read a second time.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : Ibeg to second the Yrotion.
Question put and agreed to
Bill read a second time
Honourable Crown Attorney : I beg to move that Council resolve itself into
a .Committee of the whole Council to consider the bill clause by clause.
-Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
In Committee.
Clause 2-Minor amendments of principal Ordinance.
Question that clause 2 stand lart of the. Bill put and agreed to.
Schedule.
Question that the Schedule stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
-Clause 1-Short title.
Question that clause -1 stand part of the Bill put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown.Attorney : I beg to move that the Committee rise, Counci'
resume, and the President report to the Council.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion. \
Question put and agreed to.
S' Report Stage.
President: Honourable Members, I have to report that an Ordinance,cited
as the General Lo:an and Stock (Amendment) Ordinance, 1951, has passed through
the-Committee stage without amendment.
Honorable Crown Attorney: I beg to move that the President's report be
adopted.. -'
Honourable Colonial-Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney :. I beg to move that a Bill for an Ordinance to
amend the General Loan and Stock Ordinance, No. 14 of 1950 be read a third time
'by title and passed.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer ` I beg to second the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a third time.







President: I now-call upon the Honourable Crown Attorney to move the first
reading of a hill cited as the Hydro-electric Bill, 1951.
Honourable- Crown Attorney Your Honour, Honourable Members, I beg to
introduce and have read for a first time a bill for an Ordinance to implement an
agreement made between the Government of the Colony of St. Vincent and the
Colonial Development Corporation for the construction maintenance and operation
of hydro-electric works by the Corporation in the said Colony. The long title of
the Bill is self-explanatory, and I think everyone here understands what is the
objective of this Bill. The Government of St.'Vincent is to enter into an agreement
with the Colonial Developmenit Corporation to establish hydro-electricity in the
Colony, and this agreement-must have the approval of the Legislative Council. This
agreement is contained in the Schedule to the Bill, and if you pass the Bill and
approve the Schedule, it will not be necessary for us to proceed with the motion
standing in my name for the specific approval of the-draft agreement.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I beg to second the motion.
Honourable Member for South Windward: There is just one question. I
would like to know the reason for the urgency in passing this bill today.
SPresident : The reason for taking the Bill through all its stages today, is that
,. the Construction -Engineer of the Colonial Development Corporation is now-in the -
island, and will be ready to start the work as soon as Mr. Roddam the Deputy
Manager of the Corporation arrives on May llth. The Corporation would like to
make an immediate start on the Sche'me, but cannot do so until it is given power
under this Bill to enter on people's lands, run pipe lines, erect poles etc. I don't
know if Honourable Members have had time to go through the Bill, but it is
similar to the one which was passed recently in Dominica.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Apart from that, there are quite a number of
clauses in the bill which are similar to those in our Electricity Ordinance.
Honourable Member for South Windward : I was more concerned about the
Schedule to the Bill. -
President : -ve have already discussed, the Schedule in detail in Finance
Committee.
Honourable Member for South Windward : I was not at that meeting.
.Clause 2-Interpretation.
Question that clause 2 stand part of the bil put and agreed to.
CGlause 3-Governor empowered to make agreement with Corporation.t
Question that clause 3 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 4--Generation etc. of electricity during currency of licence forbidden,
except for own use.
1- Hnourable Crown Attorney:- This Clause was re-drafted by me because the.
original draft gave power to the Governor to fine, which is an.unusual provision.
It rnow reads as follows :-
(2) "Any person acting in contravention of the preceding subsection, shall be.
guilty of an offence thereunder and shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine
not exceeding six months' and in addition thereto he may be ordered by the court
within such time as the Court may prescribe, to dismantle his equipment at his own
expense, and if he shall'fail to obey the order of the Court within the prescribed








time the Court may order the -equipment to be forthwith dismantled and -the
expenses thereby incurred shall be paid by the person against whom the order has
been-made ".
Question that clause 4 stana part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 5-Corporation-may, erect works on lantd for purposes of Hydro-electric
,undertaking.
Question that clause 5 stand part of the bill put aid agreed to.
Clause 6-Cutting trees and boughs.
Question that clause 6 stand part of the bill put-and agreed to.
Clause 7-Obstructing Corporation etc.
Question that clause 7 stand,part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 8-Com pensation.
SHonourable Member for Kingstown : Will compensation be obtained through
the Court?
President : Presumably the Corporatibn can be sued.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : I notice that the umpire is chosen by
the arbitrators.
Honourable E. A. C. Hughes : This is common arbitration provision which-is
adopted by all Insurance Companies. Before the arbitrators meet they decide on
Some one to act as umpire.
Question that clause 8 stand part of the bill put-and agreed to.
Clause 9-Maliciously or carelessly chopping trees causing damage.
.Question that clause 9 stand part of the bill put' and agreed to.
Clause 10-Unlawful and malicious damage.'
Honourable O. D. Brisbane : Here again the penalty of imprisonment without
a fine seems too severe. I agree that these offences are serious and that offenders
should-be punished, but-I think the usual practice used to be that where a person.
committed an offence for the first time he was fined, and if he committed the same
offence on another occasion, he was imprisoned.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : I agree that a fine is no punishment
for offences, but it is the practice under. our system. It permits the man with.
money to commit'an offence and pay for it.
Honourable O. D. Brisbane: I would like to move that these punishments
should be first by fine, and afterwards by imprisonment, and suggest a fine not
exceeding $500.
Hynourable Member for South Windward: Why make special provision for
fining people-just-for. damaging property of 'the Corporation? How does this
relate to damaging any other property.
Honourable Crown Attorney: ,, This is a Hydro-electric Ordinance, and you
are therefore making special provision under this Ordinance for offences
committed under this Ordinance. You don't fall back on the general provisions
when you have a special Ordinance.
Honourable W. A. Hadley: I would imagine that damaging electric wire will
be very dangerous to the public.
Honourable Member for South Windward.: 'Would the fine be more severe rn
this instance than if they destroyed any other property.







Honourable Crown Attorney: Not necessarily, it depends on whether there
is a conviction by a Magistrate's Court or the Supreme Court.
Honourable Member for Kingstown : Why give.them extra. protection?
Honourable Crown Attorney : This, is -not extra protection but specific
protection, and at any rate this is the sort of thing that needs protection.
President : With the insertion of the words a fine not exceeding $500 or"
between the words to and imprisonment" in line 5, may clause 10 stand part
of the bill?
Hon. Members : Aye.,
Clause 11-Stealing electricity.
President : With the insertion of the words "a fine not exceeding $500 or"
between the words to and-" imprisonment in the 3rd line, may clause 11 stand
part of the-bill?
Hon. Members.:' Aye.
Clause 12-Tapping electricity, or tampering therewith.
Question that clause 12' stand, part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 13-Liability of consumers.
Question that clause'13 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 14-Power of entry for ascertaining quantity of electricity consumed etc.
Question that clause 14 stand part of the bill put andagreed to.
Clause 15---Electric lines etc. not distrainable in certain cases.
Honourable Crown Attorney : Delete the words "-in certain cases appearing
in the marginal note.
Question that clause 15 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 16-Recovering of charges.,
Question that clause 16 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 17-Rules.
Question that clause 17 stand part of the bill put and agreed, to.
Clause 18-Penalties for breach of rules.
Question that clause 18 stand part of the-bill put and agreed to.
Clause 19-Damages to public property by Corporation.
Question that clause 19 stand part df the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 20-.Corporation responsible-for damage caused by them.
Question that clause 20 stand part of -the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 21-Nuisance.
Question that clause 21 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 22-Penalty.
Question that clause 22 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 23-Corporation to be- company for purposes of Income Tax Ordinance No.
23 of 1948.
Question that clause 23 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.
Clause 24-Repeal.
Question that clause 24 stand part of the bill put and agreed to.

SCHEDULE.
Clause 1-4.
SQuetion put and agreed to.







Clause 5.
Honourable Crown Attorney: Subsection (ii) of the proviso has been
changed to The amount expended on development by the Corporation during the
currency of the agreement;". The reason for this amendment is to remove any
ambiguity.
Clauses 6-12 agreed to.
-President : The only other-main point on which I would like your opinion is
Section 13, the question of a tax holiday. There has been a certain amount of
correspondence6 with the Corporation on this matter. They asked for 7 years and
I replied that in the Aid to industries Bill provision was made for 5 years, and,
therefore, I did not want to make .any difference between the concessions granted
to the Corporation and any other Company. They accepted this proposal, provided
-the.tax holiday started with the third year of operation up to the seventh, and-
that any losses- in the first 2 years would count' against -the profits after the tax.
,holiday. I then pointed out-that that would be a tax holiday for 7, years in any
case; and suggested leaving it at-7 years. I didn't want to change the period of 5
years because it would seem reasonable for other Companies to query the fact that
the Corporation had been given better terms than they.
SHonourable O. D. Brisbane: Except for the fact that this is' a special
Ordinance for a particular Corporation and would not come under thegeneral Aid
to Industries Ordinanee.
SQuestion that clause 13 stand part of the bill put and-agreed to.
Clauses 14--16 agreed to.
Clause 17.
Honourable Member for South Windward: ,The site on which the Power
Station stands is the property of the Kingstown Board, and I don't see how
Government could-arrange to sell something which does not belong to them. I
think this action is high-handed, but I have no objection'to passing the bill.
Honourable Crown- Attorney : I did not realise'that the land on which the
power station yests was not the property of Government.
Question that the Schedule as amended stand part of the Bill put and agreed
to.
Clause 1-Short title.-
Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move that the Committee rise Council resume
and the President.report to the Council.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion
Question put and agreed- to.
President : .Honourable Members, I have to report that a bill.shortly entitled
the Hydrp-electric Bill has passed through the Committee stage with certain
amendments to sections 10 and 11 and to the Schedule.
Honourable Crown Attorney ; I move that the President's report -be adopted.
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second the motion.-
.Question put and agreed to.
Honourable Crown Attorney : I move the third reading of the- Hydro-electric
Bill, 1951. ---
Honourable Colonial Treasurer : I second. the motion.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill read a third time.








ON MOTION'FOR ADJOURNMENT.
Honourable Member for Kingstown: Ydur Honour, Honourable Members, I
observe that this morning the Honourable Member for Leeward, has given notice
of questions with regard to the improvement of certain dangerous corners on the
Leeward Highway. I remember him having to do this some time ago, and at the
same time I did the same thing, I am going to draw attention to the Camden Park
Corner and Gibson's corner. These are two very dangerous corners, and-I think it
would not cost very much to improve them.
Again, I would like to repeat that the approach to the Council Chamber should
be oiled.
President: I now declare this Council adjourned sine die.

HENRY H. WILLIAMS,
Acting Cleri, Legislative'Council.


Confirmed 2nd August 1951

W. F. COUTTS,
Administrator. ,




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