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Gazette Notices
Coin Continuation Board re Statement of British
Caribbean Currency Board Coin in Circula-
tion at 31st May, 1968............................. 548
East Caribbean Currency Statement of Assets and
Liabilities at 31st May, 1968.................... 546
Notice re intention of the Barbados Association of
Professional Engineers to introduce a Bill
into the Legislature................................ 545
Report of Registrar of Trade Unions for 1st April,
1967.................................... ............. 547
Temporary Appointments to the Barbados National
Stadium Corporation: E. S. Hewitt; C. B. Forde 545

Senate Debates for 23rd March, 1968.


There will be a meeting of the Senate on
Wednesday 3rd July, 1968 at 3 o'clock p.m.

The House of Assembly will meet on
Tuesday 2nd July, 1968 at 2.30 o'clock p.m.



Temporary Appointments to the Barbados
National Stadium Corporation

Pursuant to the provisions of section 3 of
the Barbados National Stadium Corporation
Act, 1966 (1966-9), the following temporary
appointments have been made to the Barbados
National Stadium Corporation in consequence

of the absence on leave of Mr. H.M. Simmons
until 8th September, 1968:

M. E. S. Hewitt, Esquire to act as
Deputy Chairman
Clifford B. Ford, Esquire to act as a
(M.P. No.65A1A).


intention of The Barbados Association of Pro-
fessional Engineers to cause tobe introduced
into the Legislature of this Island a Bill to
incorporate the said Association and to em-
power the Association to hold real and per-
sonal estate and to sell and dispose of the
same and to make, alter, rescind and vary all
articles, rules, orders, regulations and bye-
laws as may be deemed necessary for the
management of the business of the Associa-
tion and to do all other acts and deeds for
promoting and furthering the objects of the

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For the Year 1967-68, in accordance with Section 33 of the
Trade Union Act, 1964-2

The Trade Unions registered under the Act on 1st April, 1967 were:

(1) The Barbados Workers' Union
(2) Sugar Producers' Federation of Barbados
(3) Association of Assistant Teachers in Secondary Schools
(4) The Transport and General Workers' Union
(5) The United Taxi Owners' Association
(6) Barbados Employers' Confederation
(7) Barbados Association of Local Government Officers
(8) Barbados Progressive Union of Workers
(9) The Barbados Civil Service Association
(10) The Cane Farmers' Association of Barbados
(11) Sugar Industries Supervisors' Association
(12) Barbados Entertainers Association
(13) The Barbados Sugar and General Workers Union


There were no new registrations.


Barbados Progressive Union of Workers was dissolved
on 22nd April, 1967. Barbados Association of Local Government Officers ceased
to function. A Notice of Dissolution will be filed.


On the 24th August, 1967, Barbados Workers' Union ap-
plied for a partial alteration of Rules. The alteration was registered on the 8th
day of September, 1967.


All of the Trade Unions have complied with Section 32 (1)
of the Act except Cane Farmers' Association of Barbados.


In exercise of the power conferred on the Registrar by
Section 18(1) of the Act, I appointed the Auditor General as Auditor of the Trade
Unions with effect from the 6th July, 1964. During the period of 1967-68 he fur-
nished me with reports on the following unions:-

Barbados Workers' Union
Sugar Producers' Federation of Barbados
Barbados Employers' Confederation
Association of Assistant Teachers in Secondary Schools

1st April, 1968.

July 1, 1968




AS AT 31ST MAY, 1968

(Pursuant to the British Caribbean Currency Agreement 1964, Article 10 (3))

Trinidad & Tobago
Guyana ...

Barbados ...

Antigua ...
Dominica ...
Grenada ...

St. Kitts/Nevis/.

St. Lucia ...
St. Vincent ...


... 959,921
... ... ... 501,792

... ... 1,205,750

... ... ... 327,725

... ... 161,675

... ... ... 238,375
... 37,050

lla ... ... 170,775

... ... 175,575

...... ... 146,175

"Proof Sets"






Executive Commissioner,
Coin Continuation Board.

13th June, 1968.

Government Printing Office.


July 1, 1968





Thursday, 23rd March, 1967
The Senate met in the Senate Chamber, Public Build-
ings, at 4 o'clock p.m. today.

His Honour Senator E. S. ROBINSON, C.B.E., (Presi-
dent)*, is Honour Senator C. AsquithPHILLIPS,B.A. (De-
puty President); Senator the Honourable H. A. VAUGHAN,
O.B.E., Q.C., (Minister of State and Leader of the Senate)
Senator the Honourable P. M. GREAVES, B.A. (Minister
of Home Affairs); Senator the Honourable F. G. SMITH, Q.C.
(Attorney General); Senator H. Odessa GITTENS, M.R.SH..
(Parliamentary Secretary); Senator H. F. ALKINS; Senator
E. Lisle WARD; Senator W. W. BLACKMAN,M.B.E.; Sen-
ator S. A. BLANCHETTE; Senator S. V. ASHBY; Senator
C. G. JOHNSON; Senator D. A. WILES, C.M.G., O.B.E.;
Senator F. L. WALCOTT; Senator Erma V. ROCK; Senator
R. G. MAPP: Senator C. L. BRATHWAITE: Senator F. H.

Senator P. G. MORGAN (On leave until27.3.67).; Sen-
ator Dr. R. B. CADDLE, B.Sc., M.B.B.S.; Senator N. A.

Prayers were read.


President. Before the stated business of themeeting be-
gins I seek permission to proceed with a Resolution of Sym-
pathy to the family of the late Sir Frank Worrell. I must
apologise for not having a copy of the Resolution to offer
members of the Senate. Itwas notpossibleto do so during
the time at my disposal.

There being no objection leave was granted to move the
passing of the following Resolution:-

S.BJ- IT RESOLVED that the Senate place on record its
deep 'sorrow at the death of Sir Frank Maglinne Worrell
who has won great fame and highrenownfor Barbados and
the West Indies with his exploits on the field of sport, as
a Legislator, and in the service of the University of the
Webt Indies;

AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that a copyof this
Resolution be forwarded to his bereaved family and to the
Chancellor of the University of the West Indies.

President, So much has been said within the last few
days about the career and calibre of the late Sir Frank
Worrell, that it is almost unnecessary for me to say any-
thing further on that score. But Ifeelthat we in this Cham-

ber would be failing in our duty if we did not signalise our
very high regard for the man by passing a Resolution of
regret at his death and expressing our sympathy with his
bereaved relatives.

The late Sir Frank was a Barbadian, born here some
42 years ago. In his very short life he managed to pack a
great deal of activity supported by unbounded energy. I doubt
that there is any Barbadian who, in so short a life, has
achieved such imperishable glory.

And, sir, the glory which he achieved was not achieved
in Barbados alone; but in the whole British Caribbean. He
was prominent in the field of cricket; but he was not a one-
string fiddler. He also gave service in the Senate of Ja-
maica, and he qualified himself academically and was also
a trained social worker. So from more angles than one he
has achieved distinction.

We today mourn his loss. We feel that the example
which he set is one of which we are proud; and we are
certain that those who come after him will.endeavour to
emulate the record which he set.

I move, sir, that the Resolution be agreed to.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, I beg to
second the motion. Last Sunday the entire nation, not only
Barbados, but all the West Indies, paid great tribute to the
memory of this outstanding Barbadian and West Indian, and
it is fitting that this Senate should pass a Resolution of this
sort and pay tribute, however small, to the memory of Sir
Frank Worrell.

Those of us who knew him personally went through such
emotional stress that it was difficult even if we wanted to,
to continue to speak or to add towhat has been said. While
a few of us who were not taken up in the world of Sport
could add nothing significant to what has been said, those
of us who are legislators, and who have the responsibility
of running the affairs of this country should contribute in
any way we can, and add that Sir Frank was the embodiment
of all that was best, not only in this island, but in the na-
tional life of the West Indies.

It is significant that in one field in which he made a
tremendous impact on the world and achieved some sem-
blance of unity is the one field in which he refused to be
bound by the narrow confines of this small island. I feel
that the lesson will be brought home, if not to this genera-
tion to another, that the only way to make any significant
contribution to this world's affairs is to foster the unifying
spirit of national unity which he fostered.

Although we know that his contributions are lasting
monument to his name. Ihope that the Government and
other social organizations will set up a committee to dis-
cuss in what way this nation can enshrine the memory of
Sir Frank in some lasting form.


HIS HONOUR THE PRESIDENT: I would like as Presi-
dent to associate myself with the tribute paid by the Minis-
ter of State and Senator Mapp. He was a worthy son of
Barbados, and I only hope that his example will be followed
by many Barbadians in future.

I will now ask senators to stand a minute as a mark of

Members stood.

Minister of State to take the necessary steps through the
appropriate official channels to have a copy of this Reso-
lution of Sympathy conveyed to Lady Worrell and her
family, and to the Chancellor of the Universityof the West

Senator the Honourable H. A. Vaughan, Minister of
State and Leader of the Senate laid the following Papers:

The Civil Establishment (General) (Amendment) (No, 4)
Order, 1967.
Question No. 3 asked by Senator R. G. Mapp, on 9th
February, 1967.

To enquire of the Appropriate Minister:-

1. .Was it brought to the attention of the Housing
Authority by Mr. Charles Abrams that manypersons renting
houses from the Authority were themselves renting these
houses to others and at higher rents than the Authority was

2. If the answer to (1) is in the affirmative, how
many persons were found to be indulging in this form of
profitable speculation?

3. What has the Authority done about it?

4. What measure is the Authority taking to guard
against malpractices such as this?

1. No, Sir. The Housing Authority was awareof the
problem of unauthorised sub-letting of houses, and drew the
attention of Mr. Charles Abrams to it. He made reference
to the problem in his report but gave no details.

2. and 3. Do not arise,

4. It is a duty of the Housing Inspectors and of the
Wardens in the several estates to exercise vigilance in the
matter of unauthorised sub-letting and other abuses involv-
ing the Authority's houses.


The President called the first Order A Resolution
to place the sum of $43,855 at the disposal of the Govern-
ment to supplement the Estimates, 1966-67 Part I Current
as shown in the Supplementary.Estimates, 1966-67 No. 54
which forms the Schedule to the Resolution.

President, The notes to this Resolution are reasonably de-
tailed and I shall limit myself to giving some additional
information on one or two items which I think senators
might care to have. If, of course, any member desires
further information which is at my disposal I shall be only
too willing to give it.

With respect to Item 14, Overtime Allowance, under
Head 17, Premier and Home Affairs, the supplementary
request for $900 is occasioned by overtime work performed
by stenographers and junior staff.'

As regards Head 18, Police, Item 30A, Allowance in
Lieu of Quarters, when the present Commissioner of Police
was appointed one of the conditions of his appointment was
that he should be supplied with quarters.
At that time, December, 1965, his immediate pre-
decessor, Major Stoute, wasonpre-retirement leave, and
was not expected to leave the quarters allotted to him as
Commissioner until the 31st May, 1966. Since that date it
was decided not to continue its occupation by the Commis-
sioner of Police but to transfer the Police Bank there.
Originally, a sum of $72 a monthwas voted for Captain
Farmer to cover the cost of his providing himself with a
house from the 1st of December, 1965 to the 31st May, 1966.
Now that the house formerly allotted to the Commissioner
will no longer be used for that purpose, it is proposed to
pay Captain Farmer $72 a months fromthe 1st June, 1966
until March 31st this year. That accounts for the sum asked

With respect to Item 60, New Bicycles, that and Item
79, Motor Vehicles under the same Head have something in
Common. In each they concern articles ordered through
the Crown Agents but which did not arrive during the finan-
cial year in which they were ordered. Therefore, it was
necessary to ask for revotes.

Parenthetically, it may be of interest to know that of
the $43,855 asked for in this Resolution more than half is
by way of revotes, concerning sums that have lapsed either
because the materials ordered did not arrive until the end
of the financial year, or because, as in each case of the
one dealing with the newspapers, Item 57 of Head 18,
vouchers had not been put in before theend of the financial

I should just like to make a brief reference to the last
item, Item 21, Head 36, HotelTraining. Itis stated that the
Hotel School is getting on very well and the numbers of
Students enrolled last year was three times as many as when
the school opened.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in,

Senator the Honourable P. M. Greaves seconded the

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, Item 34,
Elections, Head Premier and Home Affairs the note re-
fers to additional expenditure incurred inconnectionwith
the payment of Returning Officers, overtime work and ad-
vertising in preparation for the General Elections.
Now, Sir, it has been widely discussed by all sections
of the public and noted in the Press the wide public dis-
satisfaction resulting from the preparation of the Register
of Electors for the last elections. I do not intend to go over
old and beaten ground or to relate certain experiences of
what took place on a wide scale in relation to the registra-
tion of voters; but I distinctly recall that after the elections
no less a person than the Prime Minister of this island
made a public promise that an enquiry would be held into
the Registration of voters for the elections. I would like to
ask the Minister if the Government has made any progress
towards putting this promise into effect.
Does the Government intend to straighten out the situa-
tion? You never know when there may be a by-election, and
many things may happen between now and the next General
Elections, and one must hope that what took place at the last
General Elections will not recur.
Newspapers in their editorial columns have cried out
that there would be an enquiry. Are we to assume that the
voices of public opinion and information do not amount to

anything in this Island? I hope, Sir, thatthe Government is
taking this matter seriously and will carrry out the promise
previously made by the Prime Minister.

SENATOR F. L. WALCOTT: Mr. President, lam not
replying for the Government, but since this matter has been
raised I want to bring up something which is extremely
serious. Today, repeatedly people are making statements in
broad and general terms about democracy, security, free-
dom and liberty, but we find that some of these same people
are encouraging people to be undisciplined and to disre-
spect law and order, but sometimes when these things re-
bound they cry out.

Senator Mapp talks about registration. I am surprised
to hear him say that. I remember distinctly that the party
to which he belongs did everything in their power to prevent
people from being registered. People were told that if their
photographs were taken the Government would take away
their cows and goats and know their business. This sort of
stupid fear was instilled in people's minds.

I will not speak of the elections. I do not feel that it is
necessary to do so. Some of us havetoo many experiences
of this business of elections. If the idea is that public opin-
ion is what is written in newspapers, we have to ask how
informed is this opinion. Informed opinion is something you
can go by: but misinformed opinion is something different.

In proper public opinion there should be pronounce-
ments by people that should register for elections. Politi-
cians should encourage people to be registered no matter for
whom they vote. Do not make these cheap jibes in a place
like Barbados. You will be surprised to know, Sir, that this
sort of cheap jibe was carried to the London Conference.
They were talking about the Constitution and the Secretary
of State was told that somebody was Registering Officer.

I take an extremely serious view of these broad and
general statements that you are trampling on someone's
rights in issues that have nothing to do with anyone's rights
being trampled on. I suppose that Governments have to
investigate when they have enough evidence; but you find
that so many people are afraid to come forward and give

I am getting a bit tired of these pronouncements. In
every argument I want to know what the other side is up to.
No one's freedom is being challenged. Numerous articles
are being written. I do not believe that in any country which
has become independent in the last ten years there has
been such a concerted effort to denigrate the Government
It seems that papers and individuals are trying to create
the same upsetting influences that were created in Africa.
They do not mind seeing the country destroyed because they
will be able to say I told you so.

I am saying, Sir, that there is a concerted effort in this
country to try to build up discontent, to build up disloyalty,
to build up the feeling that you must do something because
something is going against you. There is this effort to deni-
grate the country to which they belong.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Can I riseona point of order
or explanation?

he ask upon what point he should rise?

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: As I remember the rules I can
only speak once on a Resolution.

not know if I can support the Prime Ministerial promise
which Senator Mapp said was made about an enquiry; but as
I am aware no such enquiry is on foot.

With respect to the rest of the remarks of the Senator,
Senator Walcott in his usual manner has returned the ball
very neatly into Senator Mapp's Court, and has given him
and the other members of his party who are inclined to

take it, a lot of food for thought. I do not intend to follow
Senator Walcott along that line,

I am surprised at the ease with which some people-
and here I refer specifically to what Senator Mapp said -
take it for granted that when a person with a minimum
knowledge of the subject pontificates weekly in the Press
that what he says is gospel. Ithinkthat the time has come
when those of us who have some sortof reason and who try
to take a balanced view of the affairs of this country should
speak out and let those who feelthat they are in a position
to mislead the public, that while there are those who feel con-
strained to write in the Press, their critisisms of the Gov-
ernment are utterly ill-founded.

A leading article in a newspaper is no more justifiable
in being regarded as public opinion as one swallow making
a summer.

It is true that there are some people who think that
because something is in black and white it is gospel, it is
the Bible. I would advise Senator Mapp not to delude him-
self with that idea any longer.

In spite of the fact that Parliament meets relatively
often it does not mean that the Government is not aware of
its responsibility of doing its best in running the affairs of
this country; and those who feel that it is part of their job
to harrass the Governmentwill onedayhaveto face genuine
public opinion when there is a revolution of public opinion
against this type of denigration that is so often indulged in,

The question that the Resolution be concurred in was
put to the Senate and agreed to.


The President called the second Order A Bill to amend
the Financial Administration and Audit Act, 1964.

President, As stated in the Objects and Reasons, this Bill
seeks to amend the Financial Administrationw and Audit Act,
1964 (Act 1964-23) to bring that Act into line with the pro-
visions of Chapter of the Constitution of Barbados which
deals with finance and provides for the establishment of a
Consolidated Fund.

The Bill, Sir, seeks to achieve the object in three or
four different ways. In the first place it makes specific
provision for the setting upofa Consolidated Fund, some-
thing hitherto unknown to the Constitution of Barbados. That
is Clause 2. It says: "Consolidated Fund" means the Con-
solidated Fund of the island established by Section 107 of
the Constitution of Barbados. The definition of "public
moneys" is deleted by Clause 2 (a) ii, and in Clause 2 (a) iii
at the end of the definition of "revenue" the words "includ-
ing the proceeds of all loans raised."

The definition of "public moneys" is deleted inasmuch
as the definition of "Consolidated Fund" would include all
moneys which would accrue to the Government including
sums that come under.the General Revenue, and by loan as

Provisions which operate along similar lines to bring
this Act into line with Chapter 9 of the Consittution are to
be found in other portions of the Bill. There are also pro-
visions for how the new measures areto be put into effect.

Take for instance Clause 7 which deals with the ab-
stract account. This is necessary in order to give effect
to the setting up of the Consolidated Fund, and also by
Clause 15. I repeatthat I am onlygiving instances. In this
Clause the term "Minister" is substituted for the term
"Governor-General". The word Minister needs no defini-
tion. According to the Interpretation Act, "Minister" is the
person charged with responsibility for the particular mat-


Opportunity has been taken to effect one or two amend-
ments whichwill correct certain typographical errors in the
principal legislation.

I move, Sir, that the Bill be read a second time.

Senator the Honourable F. G. Smith seconded the mo-

The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A. Vaughan,
seconded by Senator the Honourable F. G. Smith, the Senate
went into Committee on the Bill, Senator C. Asquith Phillips
in the Chair.

Clauses 1 to 6 of the Bill were called and passed with-
out debate.

The question was put and agreed to that the passing of
the Bill in Committee be reported to the Senate.

His Honour the President resumed the Chair and the
passing of the Bill in Committee was reported accordingly.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A. Vaughan,
seconded by Senator the Honourable F. G. Smith, the Bill
was read a third time and passed.


The President called the third Order A Bill to regu-
late the holding of boxing contests in the Island.

President, The purpose of this Bill is to set up a Boxing
Board of Control composed of not more than seven mem-
bers. This is provided for in Clause 3 (1) and the purpose
of the Board is to regulate the holding of boxing contests
within the island.

Written permission will have to be obtained from the
Board before any person can hold, assistinholding or take
any part in a boxing contest whether for prizes or other-
wise. That provision is found in Clause 7 (1), and the Board
is given power to exempt from the provisions of the Bill
any scholastic ins-tution or any amateur athletic or any
other organised institution. That is in Clause 12. For exam-
ple, the boys at Harrison College may have boxing as part
of their normal sporting activities.

The Bill deals withtheformationofthe Board and its
powers. Among these powers there is the important one to
be able to enter any place where a contest is being held,
and power is also given to the Police to enter any place
where a boxing contest is being held. That is found'inn
Clause 8.

Members will see that there are Regulations appended
to the Bill as a Schedule and these will continue in force
until it seems expedient to have them revoked, or modified
by other Regulations. The Board is also given power to
make rules for the good conduct of boxing.

I move, Sir, that the Bill be read a second time.

Senator the Honourable P. M. Greaves seconded the

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, As far as the
principle of the Bill is concerned I do not think that there
will be any objection by any member of this body today. We
would all like to see boxing regulated and we hope that the
standard of boxing will be raised. I have no fundamental
objection to the Bill.

But, Sir, while on one side we hear much and read much
about the guarantee of democracy in this island, we read in
this Bill that the Chairman and Deputy Chairman are to be
appointed by the Cabinet from among the members. I am

expressing the opinion of thousands in this island that we
do not want a political control of boxing in the sense of doing
more than setting up a Board to control and regulate it.
Surely we do not want to see a political monopoly. In creat-
ing such a Board you should appoint those who you feel are
knowledgeable and who can do the job well.

That is the only part of the Bill about which I have
some misgiving in that I feel that it is going a bit far to
have a political finger ineverypie. Expect a ready answer
from the Minister.

tor Mapp hopes for a ready answer, and I would add a true
answer. A lot of things said inhere are not always exactly
true. At present there is no Boxing Board of Control. There
are some people interested in boxing and who have been
carrying it on in the face of great difficulty.

This Bill has been the subject of much and careful dis-
cussion with those who have been carrying on the sport
in Barbados and who are now in charge of it. If Senator
Mapp impliedly wants to say that they have done
wrong in their satisfaction, he may have to get in touch
with them and let them answer for themselves. As far as
the Government is concerned, these people have accepted
the provisions of the Bill.

President, Under Clause 3 (1) it is provided that the
Board shall consist of not more than seven members as the
Cabinet may from time to time appoint by instrument in writing
I thought that Senator Mapp would object to the entire Board.
If the Government only appoints the Chairman and the Depu-
ty Chairman does that mean that they have control over
the entire seven members? He does not quarrel about the
whole Board, but only picks out two.

Why bring politics into something which the Govern-
ment is trying to put on a good footing. The Government is
trying to build a stadium and to put sport in general on a
better footing and give them the facilities they have never
had inspite of all the progress thathas been talked about for
donkey years. Now that the Government is trying to do
something it is accused of establishing a political board as
if it matters to thePrimeMinister or any other member of
the Democratic Labour Party what happens in boxing. What
member of the Cabinet or of the DLP is interested in
training a boxer or organising a contest? When it comes
to politics, accuse us; but not on issues like this. That is
carrying political criticism too far. If this was the footing
on which the party operated I would never have joined it.

We are trying to put the sport on a footing through
which Barbados might one day be able to produce a cham-
pion. I was sure that the senator perhaps has more sense
than some of the others in his party.

SENATOR F. L. WALCOTT: Mr. President In my
younger days I was an ardent physical culturist. I now pre-
fer to spend my time in more cultural pursuits; but there
are some young people people who have notyet reached my
stage who will enjoy this kind of sport.

Senator Mapp was a member of the Cabinet of Bar-
bados. If you take a look at the Acts passed during that
time you will note that the Development Board is appointed
by the Cabinet although it is a board of businessmen. Be-
cause boxing is a rough and tumble sport I do not see that
it is wrong that you should try to control it. I have had the
experience of a contest when the whole of the money col-
lected disappeared and those who went into the ring only
got cuffs.

The Cabinet can decide the merits of the persons to
be made Chairman and Deputy Chairman without it becoming
a political matter. We should not deceive ourselves that
Senator Mapp is doing these things by accident. He is doing
them by design; so that whenever any person reads what
he says they will decide that the Government does not want
democracy any more. Their whole argument was that after

Independence you would not be able to open your windows
until the Government gave you permission to do so.

As has been said, we have ambitions of producing a
champion. The values of the people of Barbados where these
things are concerned will have to be completely changed,
and this is the sort of Bill on which Senator Mapp is at-
tacking the Government and saying that it is trying to con-
trol boxing politically. If you are going to expend public
money ona stadium why should notthe Cabinet be in a posi-
tion to decide the calibre of the people whom you will like
to be concerned with such an institution.

I feel that these methods of attacking the Government
by innuendo and making people believe that the Government
is taking away their rights, whether in the Senate, in other
places or by newspaper articles, must be answered quickly
by members of the party sothatthe record is kept correct.

SENATOR S. V. ASHBY: Mr. President, Iwould like
to say that this Bill should have been passed 20 years ago.
It is peculiar how some people think that because something
appears in the Press it reflects public opinion.

I myself have experience of two people going into the
ring, and after two rounds one falls. This Bill seeks to
protect the public by imposing certain safeguards. It also
provides for law and order being maintained in what is a
dangerous sport. I do not think that the Government should
be censured for saying who should be Chairman and Deputy
Chairman or for seeing that their policy is carried out.

The question that the Bill be read a second time was put
and agreed to.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A. Vaughan
seconded by Senator the Honourable P. M. Greaves, the
Senate went into Committee on the Bill, Senator C. Asquith
Phillips in the Chair.

Clauses 1 to 10 of the Bill were called and passed
without debate.

Clause 11 was called.

SENATOR F. L. WALCOTT: I would like to ask if this
provision for the Police to enter where boxing is controlled
in cludes the power to take peopleout. It is becoming pre-
valent in Barbados for peopletogotogames and misbehave
themselves. The Police cannot take them out because they
do not have the authority. I would like to see that provision
covering all games. Some people come armed withweapons
and other people have to scamper.

power to which Senator Walcott refers is contained in this
clause. Generally, any private concern which opens its doors
to the public would be justified in putting out a person who
misbehaves himself, if he uses reasonable force,.

As will be seen, the situation is made more effective
when the person authorised is clothed with legal authority.
Thenthe mere present of the police willstop some people
from misbehaving themselves.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Clause 11 (a) refers to any
person who being duly licenced in accordance withthe pro-
visions of this Act etc. Do Itake it that this only applies to
people who are licenced?

SENATOR H. A. VAUGHAN: The Senator has obviously
misread the whole thing. He has cited Clause 11 (a), but
there are paragraphs (b) and (c) covering all categories
If you hold a boxing contest without being duly licenced you
will be guilty of an offence under the Act. I remember that
Senator Mapp was in the Courts when I was on the Bench. I
am sorry that he has not gained by his training.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Perhaps we do makes mistakes
whether in the Court or not.

The question that Clause 11 stand part was put and
agreed to.
Clause 12 was called and agreed to.

The Schedule was called.
SENATOR S. V. ASHBY: Clause 23 of the Schedule for-
bids the sale of intoxicating liquor for consumption on any
premises before, or during the progress of, any boxing con-
test which may be held thereon. I was wondering what would
be the position after the contest.
not the desire of Government to prevent people from enjoy-
ing themselves after a boxing contest. If after the contest
one feels like having some jolification and liquor is used it
is perfectly all right. This was the subject of discussions
between promoters and the Government and they insisted
that the word "before" should be inserted. These Regula-
tions are modelled mainly after the Trinidad legislation.
After all, we are not kill joys and we do not suggest that
after a contest a person should not be able to "fire one",
SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Clause 9 of the Schedule deals
with the amount of fees to be paid for contests including
and excluding championships. It is not clear who is to de-
termine championship. I think that in America there are
bodies which determine that. Is it to be determined by the
this Bill becomes law there will be one Boxing Board of
Control, Other people may have their own views as to who
is a champion; but he will not be so officially recognized
or styled.
SENATOR H. F. ALKINS: Am I correct in assuming
that all expenses incurred will have to be met by the fees

is correct.

SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: I am not clear about
Clause 23, which deals with the consumption of intoxicating
liquor. Who commits the offence, the person buying it or
the person selling it?
whole idea is to prevent people from being able to obtain
liquor to be drunk on the premises before or during the
boxing contest. A precise prohibition is there setout. What
the Senator does not perhaps realise is that a draughtsman
may use two words where a layman might use one. That is
not done for elegance but that there should be no doubt as
to what is intended.

SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: That comes from a legal
man and I will have to accept it.
On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator the Honourable P. M.
Greaves it was agreed that the Schedule stand part of
the Bill.

The question was put and agreed to that the passing
of the Bill in Committee be reported to the Senate,

His Honour the President resumed the Chair and the
passing of the Bill in Committee was reported accordingly.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A. Vaughan,
seconded by Senator the Honourable P. M. Greaves, the
Bill was read a third time and passed.


The President called the fourthOrder A Bill to make
special provision in respect of the pensions, gratuities or
other allowances which may be granted under the Pensions
Act, 1947, to officers who retire from public service under
the Government of this Island and re-enter the public ser-
vice under the Government of this Island.

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President, The present position is that if an Officer in
the Public Service transfers from one colony such as Bar-
bados up to November 30astyear, and retires in the colony
to which he transferred or returns to his home base and
then retires the whole of his service bothin his home base
and in the colony to which he transferred is taken as the
whole basis on which pension is calculated.

In the Schedule to the Pensions Act there are certain
provisions by which there is reciprocity in these arrange-
ments. On the other hand, if anofficer after having served
in a colony transfers to an independent country which is
already independent atthetime of his transfer, or transfers
to a colony which then becomes independent, and remains
in the service of that Independent country, and he wants to
revert to his home base, he might find it difficult to get
the whole of his service for the purpose of pension.

Suppose an officer was in the service of Barbados
when it was a colony, and he wentto Gambia when that was
a colony and remained in the service of Gambia when that
country became independent; be might find some difficulty
in getting his service in Barbados included in the compu-
tation of his pension; and if he wanted to leave Gambia and
return to Barbados the position might be even worse be-
cause there would have been a break in his service in a
dependent country as defined in the Act of 1947.

The object of this Bill is to facilitate such an officer
if he wants to return to Barbados after having served in an
independent country, and the provision in Clause 3 (1) would
enable him, if he returns to Barbados and enters our Ser-
vice here, to be treated as thoughtthewhole of his service
had been a series of transfers from Barbados to, for exam-
ple Gambia and from Gambia to Barbados.

In doing so, he must understand that any pension which
he had been drawing from this Governmentwhile in the in-
dependent territory would not be paid to him until the com-
pletion of his service here. His second period of service in
Barbados would be used as a basis for computation so that
he would not suffer.

There are one or two provisions with respect to
machinery, and "appropriate Commission" is the Public

Service Commission, the Judical and Legal Service Com-
mission and the Police Commission according to the branch
of the Service in which the officer served.

These are the main provisions, Sir, and I move that
the Bill be read a second time.

Senator the Honourable F. G. Smith seconded the mo-

The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.

On the motion of the Senator the Hon. H. A.
Vaughan seconded by Senator the Hon. F. G. Smith the
Senate went into Committee on the Bill, Senator C.
Asquith Phillips in the Chair.

Clauses 1 to 5 of the Bill were called and agreed to.
The passing of the Bill was reported to the Senate,

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A. Vaughan,
seconded by Senator the Honourable F. G. Smith the Bill
was read a third time and on like motion was passed.


President, In moving the adjournment of the Senate I would
say that it is the intention that we should meet on Wednesday
next week instead of on the normal Thursday. Members will
realise that we have to consider the Estimates and also
other matters that have been passed bythe lower House. It
is not unlikely that we may have to sit both on Wednesday
and Thursday. Everything depends on the expedition with
which members are willing to deal with the matters. I am
entirely in their hands.

I now move, Sir, that the Senate adjourn until Wednes-
day, March 29th at 2 p.m.

Senator the Honourable P. M. Greaves seconded the

The question was put and agreed to and His Honour the
President adjourned the Senate accordingly.

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