October 21, 1975VE
OCT 30 1975
TO: DONALD R. FEASTER, Executive Director
THROUGH: E. D. VERGARA, Deputy Executive Director for
FROM: WILLIAM T. ALLEE, Administrative Assistant
RE: Senate Natural Resources Committee Meeting of October 13, 1975
The main purpose of this meeting was to bring the Committee up to date on
the progress that has been made relative to the recent reorganization of
environmental agencies and to discuss any problems that have arisen
including further legislation necessary.
Mr. Shields and Mr. Landers both indicated the reorganization is progressing
well with satisfactory cooperation between their respective departments.
They and members of their staffs have met several times and have a mutual
understanding of each other's response' ilities. The two departments intend
to jointly represent the State in Washington, D. C., i.e., DER is to cover
water resources management, DNR is to cover waterways, ports, beaches, etc.
Mr. Shields said the proposed organizational charts for the divisions in his
department will be submitted to the Department of Administration for
approval this week. He said funding is short in some sections that were
transferred to the Department of Natural Resources.
Mr. Shields said he feels the Bureau of Coastal Zone Management and
Protection should remain under DNR and that the Governor has indicated he
has no objection as long as there is cooperation with DER. Apparently
there has been discussion in some circles of transferring the Bureau to DER.
He said it was still too early to recommend any needed legislation, but,
there may be some proposals as the session draws earer.
Relative to the transfer of the Sea-Resources Section from Department of
Health and Rehabilitative Services to DNR, Mr. Shields said his department
has experienced some slight problems due to lack of cooperation from
certain local health departments in taking samples of shell fish popula-
tions as required. Chairman Spicola instructed him to keep the Committee
informed if these problems persist.
Mr. Landers stated that he will be submitting periodic reports to the
Governor and Legislature on the progress of the reorganization. He said
due to funding shortages in certain areas he has been forced to leave
approximately twenty-five authorized positions unfilled. Additionally
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some thirty positions are to be eliminated in accordance with the Act. He
assured the Comittee that cooperation between DER and other agencies has
been extremely good and that there is no duplication of permitting responsi-
bilities with local environmental agencies.
On the subject of land and water planning activities between agencies Mr.
Shields commented that it might be appropriate for the Division of State
Planning and the Coastal Coordinating Council to be under the same depart*
agent. MW. Landers commented that better horizontal and vertical coordination
between planning agencies is needed.
Mr. Swanson of the Division of State Planning then initiated a drawn out
presentation by DSP with a definition of the Division's responsibility:
i'To provide a State Comprehensive Plan for all planning agencies to plan
within, to identify what others have done and are doing and to integrate
It was evident from various comments and questions by Committee members
that they are anticipating at least a partial end product in the form of a
map showing recommended land uses. The major question raised relative to
the State Comprehensive Plan was, "What happens when it is completed?" No
one quite knew the answer but the general consensus was that it would be
up to the local (county) governments to enforce or implement the plan and
if this was not satisfactorily accomplished, the Legislature could mandate
it. In any event there may be a need for certain legislation next session
related to the Plan.
Mr. Swanson named some fourteen "elements" that will be available to the
Legislature prior to the coming session. Water Resources was among the
fourteen elements and he indicated that DER, DSP, WMD's, and some top
legal minds in the State will have had input to it by then. These four-
teen elements are to be provided to the Governor by late February so that
doesn't leave much time for input from the water management districts.
Mr. Lovell of the Division of State Planning pointed out a potential
problem in that DSP, HRS, and the WMD's are organized under three different
sets of District boundaries. He said this may create problems with
implementation of the State Comprehensive Plan in the future. Chairman
Spicola authorized the DSP to work with the Committee's staff (two people)
on this matter.
cc: L. M. Blain