UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA
ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM
Interviewee: Betty Mae Jumper
Interviewer: Jeanette Cypress
C: My name is Jeanette Cypress. Today we are interviewing Betty Mae Jumper.
This interview is taking place in her home in Hollywood. This interview
is being conducted in English and Miccosukke and the topic is her recollec-
tions about life during the Great Depression Era, 1927-1943. Question
Number Seven: Where did you live during the 1920s?
J: 1920s? I was living in Indiantown.
J: From 1922 when I was born and after that I lived in Indiantown until 1928.
C: How about in 1930?
J: In the Hollywood Reservation.
C: And in 1940?
J: Hollywood Reservation.
C: Did you ever live or work in any of the tourist attraction places like Mulsa
Isles or Silver Springs?
C: Did you or your family ever work for any farmers?
J: Yes. My mother and my grandmother and my grandfather.
C: What kind of work did they do?
J: Picking tomatoes, beans, and oranges.
C: Did they hunt or trap or sell hides?
C: What kind of animals?
J: Coons, otters, alligator.
C: If there were not hardly any jobs, is that what they did to make a living?
C: How about any government work in Dania? Like any job training or...?
J: No, I worked with about a couple years.
C: Did you ever hear of a lot of people coming up to Dania to work, like from
Big Cypress or other places?
J: When I was a kid, about eight or nine years old, I saw a lot of people
coming and cleaning this reservation here.
C: Do you think that was with the land clearing program?
C: And during that time, did you ever see any agents by the name of Spencer,
J: I was too young to remember him.
C: How about Reverend Glenn?
J: Yeah, I remember him. He kind of looked over the place and,on account of Mr.
Glenn was going to preach here too. We used to go out and sometime he
preached at night, we used to go to sing for him. I remember that. Indian
songs, Christian songs.
C: So, did he try to help the Indians as much as possible, like finding jobs
J: There was no jobs to find. He tried to help them and he tried to get money
for them. I remember he gave my grandmother ten dollars a week to get some-
body to give ten dollars a week, the government or something. Ten dollars
a week to buy groceries and they got a truck and went back and forth to
Dania on Saturdays to get groceries.
C: Were there a lot of Christians or churches during that time?
J: No. There were two men, two old men, Willy King was here, and my uncle and
my great-uncle Jimmy and Willy Jumper and my mother. And Mishi, my aunt.
I was the only one that was Christian then.
C: How about Mr. Scott? Do you remember him?
C: What kind of man was he?
J: He was pretty good man too. He is the one that had me go away to school to
Cherokee, North Carolina. He fond a school for me to go to.
C: So, did he try to help a lot of the people?
J: As far as I know. As far as what he could do. Like I said, there was not
too much things he could do. Of course, there was no jobs or nothing.
C: How about Mr. Gardine?
J: I was in school. I did not know him. I do not know what he did.
C: So, was there a school here in Dania for the Indian kids?
J: For a little bit.
C: Who ran that?
J: Our teacher's name was Mrs. Deball. She was the teacher. Tried to teach,
but hardly anybody go to.school there.
C: How about like medical care, if someone needed to go to a doctor or, who
helped them with that?
J: The superintendent did. There is this old doctor in Hollywood. Old-fash-
ioned doctor like in Hollywood. I forgot what his name was. But when I
took, when I fell out of the tree and break my arm, they took me over there
to Hollywood and that is where I saw.
C: But if you needed to go like to a doctor, you had to provide your own tran-
J: We did not have any cars, except my mother. Once in a while, she took them
to Hollywood. There was only one day we could go and there was one old
doctor that was there.
C: During that time, did any of the superintendents ever try.to force the
Indian people to move-to the reservation?
J: No. Not as I remember. But then in 1940s there was trying they was asking
us to move to Big Cypress or Brighton or they was going to buy our place
for us. I think it was in Clewiston somewhere.
J: And we got the help of Mrs. Stranahan, Friends of the Seminoles, and lot of
the Friends of the Seminoles and the older people and they called me back
down to interpret for them when I was in school and that is the only way we
stopped it. From selling this land.
C: It says did you ever benefit from government programs for Indians during
the 1920s or 1940s period, like the CCC program, the land clearing, building
J: I heard that there were CCC, I know they were around, but I never did work
for it or I, my husband, Moses, I think he worked for it, when he was a young.
C: Yes. How about back then, was there any cattle program or anything like
that stuff in Brighton or Big Cypress?
J: No, I do not think so until later in the years, they brought cattle in, but
I do not remember what year it was.
C: Some of the people told me there used to be a lady that wore a uniform, an
old lady that used to help people, like make home visits? Do you remember
seeing her? I guess she was with she was like a nurse or something.
J: I do not remember her. I know Deaconus Bidell was around, but she was, she
was on the trail.
J: That is
where that thing, once in a while she would come around and see
I remember that, I remember talking to her, but she never did
the reservation. She worked on the trail.
C: And you started working with the medical stuff too for a while didn't you?
J: That is when I worked after I came back from school in 1946 after my train-
C: So, the only thing that you kind of Benefited from it was like going to
school? They helped you go to school?
C: Okay. This is the end of the interview.