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INTERVIEWEE: Barbara Freeman
INTERVIEWER: Lew Barton
January 20, 1975 dib
B: This is January 20, 1975. I am Lew Barton recording for the University
of Floridaa history department's American Indian Oral History
Program. kL with me at 211 South Broadway in Baltimore, Maryland,
is a young lady who has kindly consented to give us an interview.
Would you mind telling me, Ma'am, what your name is?
F: Barbara Freeman.
-.e -Freeman?
B: Uhatah. It's'F-r-e-e-m-a-n'.for the record, right?.
F:
B: May I ask your age?
F: Thirteen.
B: Thirteen. What grade are you in?
F: Eighth.
B: Eighth grade. Are you having any difficulties in school?
F: ja'h. s e 7)
B: Would you tell us about your parents and your sisters and brothers?
How many, would you tell us first the names of your parents?
F: My mother's name is Barbara Ann Freeman and my father is Wilbur Lacie
Freeman.
B: .n how about your brothers and sisters?
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F: Their names?
B: Uh huh. A(, c-) k /-CJ V s
F: My older sister is Sandy Ann Taylor, she's married, and Janet Fay
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Freeman and Alethia Kay Freeman and WilbArtLacie)Junior.
B: 440*, do you remember their ages?
F: My older sister is seventeenjaad- the next one is sixteenaed my little
sister is three, Ity brother is eleven.
B: tMEEh, are you tutoring over here Are you one of the tutors at the
center?
F: No, I was.
B: How do you like going to school?
F: It's all right.
B: You don't have any problems?
F: No.
B: Have you lived here all your life?
F: No, only been up here going on six years.
B: How do you like it?
F: It's O.K.
B: You were born in Robeson County, North Carolina?
F: Lumberton.
B: Si, that is in Robeson. ff'A you rather live in Lumberton or live in Bal-
timore?
F: I did, but now since I got up here/I don't want to leave.
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B: Well, at thirteen years old you haven't started dating yet of course.
F: Uh uh. Ck^^ V
B: Mrd.- your mama would frown on that, wouldn't she? Do you think
Indian children have trouble catching up in school?
F: Some of them.
B: Do you have any problems because you are an Indian? Do people treat
you differently because you're an Indian?
F: No.
B: Having lived in both the rural area and in the city can you tell
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any differences? are there any differences between living at home
and living here?
F: They're just, the city and the country is different by the way it's
built and everything.
B: 48-erA Is there anything about living in the city that bothers you
more than living back home?
F: -h Ui 1
B: You're catching on easily aren't you to city ways?
F: MJhi. J rhuh
B: Do you think people are nicer in the country than in the city?
F: Yes.
B: In what ways? Are they more friendly or what?
F: Yes.
B: In your school, what is the name of your school by the-way?
F: Hemstead Hill Junior High.
B: Hemstead, that's H-e-m-s-t-e-a-d?
F: Uk-h. ....
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B: Do you have counselors in school? That sort of thing?
F: Yes, sir.
B: Do you have personal problems do you have someone you can discuss
them with?
F: JUhbJliuheY^^.-7O -
B: Do they teach sex education over there?
F: No.
B: Do you have, do you haveAcertain men 6 teacher designated tmaI,
-e*trpe anything like a family study or anything like that?
F: No.
B: You probably haven't gotten that far to get into those things.
-Ll ; some kind of a program4.. ally I don't know. What
do you think of our young people? Is it easy for a thirteen year
old to get into social circles, so to speak, with other children?
Are they friendly?
F: Yes.
B: By the way do you play any games?
F:. What, sports or anything?
B: Uh huh.C + /e5S
F: At school?
B: Uh huh. t2 4 y
F: I play basketball, volleyball.
B: And what is your favorite'sport?
F: Basketball and baseball.
B: Indian children, many of them like to swim. Is there anyplace you can
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go swimming in the summer around here?
F: Yes, maSf not around here. .Hr. Patterson Park, but we
don't go up there? j .___onily swimming place they have.
B: Is Patterson Park a nice place to go? Or does it have a bad repu-
tation? Are people afraid to go around the park at night?
F: At nighttime, yes.
B: Well, that's too bad, isn't it?
F: Uh huh( mf v- 2 Y S
B: What do you plan to do when you graduate from high school?
F: I was planning to be a nurse, but I'm not sure what I'll be.
B: You seem to be very much advanced for your age. Do you get along
well with other students?
F: Uh huh..f^+^ ly L/s
B: .WIA e your favorite girlfriend?
F: At school?
B: 1Jh-4hm- 1/ e s
F: I don't have a favorite really. Just the two, ones I hang with,
one named Marcia Carol and Gurrevua_____e__
B: Are there many other Indian students in your school?
F: Not as many as the other nationalities.
B: Ukftzk, do.Indian kids have a tendency to stay to themselves away
from other students)do you think?
F: Uh uh. PrVSA \V1 N
B: They get along well together with all of the groups?
F: Yes, I think so.
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B: That's nice. What do you think about discipline at school? What
kind5of punishment do they use?
F: If you fight or anything they suspend you from school.
B: tW- But they can't suspend you indefinitely though, can they?
F: They say if you just done it three times in the year they kick you
out of the school,Ayou have to go to another one.
B: Oh, I see. What do you think about Indian parents, their discipline?
Do you think they're pretty strict?
F: Some of them. Some of them's not.
B: -Jibs how about yours, are yours strict?
F: My father, not my mother. C T(.c-r
B: Do you go to North Carolina very often?
F: Not often. Sometimes.
B: Well, I want to thank you very much for giving me this intervieZ)
.-AR I've enjoyed it very much. Is there something you'd like to
say to other young people?
F: No.
B: Well, thank you so very much.
F: welcome.
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