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A. E. Forster
fMay 1916

The story I'm going to tell you at this time starts at May
10 1916 That was the day I was discharged as a first class
pattern mrker from the Ur.ooklin, l4ew York Navy Yard, I was given
an efficiency ra: tef excellent 95%. General Conduct 95%, Just
nint to get that in the records now.
On the 15th of may 1916, I reported to work at Pensacola Naval
Air Station. It was then known as the United States Aeronautical
Station at Pen acola, Florida. I was employed as a pattern maker
first class rating. I got four dollars a day, that was a first
class rating of Pensacola, at that time. I didn't know it, at that
time but I was employed by the machinery division and loaned to the
Hull division of the Bureau of Construction and Repair, I said I
went to work on the 15th of May 1916, on the 18th of August, 1916
my supervisor, Mr. B. H. Hake* He had been a warrant officer, but
I think by this time they had made him a Lieutenant, due to the war
coming. Well I was working in the shop and he came to me and he
said, of all these enlisted men that we have in the shop, they're
all going to be taken out of the shop. They won't be supervisors
around here any longer. And he said that it happens that these
old men we have in the shop, these old Navy yard men, that you are
the youngest one around here. He said, how old are you,? I said,

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A. E. Forster
~y 1, 1916

I'm 26, he said, well that's old enough, he said, Z've decided to
put you in charge of the shop, acting leading man and when the time
comes and they have examinations, if you pass in a high, you'll get
the job. I said, fine enough I'm satisfied with that so from then
on that was the 18th of August 1916 I was acting leading man.
Oh after a few days passed more or less this warrant officer come
to me and said Forster, he said, you know you're taking the place
of some of these chief petty officers. He said, I know they don't
like it theywant to be here as superviilors, as, long as possible.
And they are going to be against anybody that takes their jobs.
So he said, look out for these fellows. He said now you remember
I was in the Navy. I was an enlisted man and chief petty officer
just like these fellows are now but I know. Remember now I know
just exactly what they will do to have their way. They'll do any-
thing. I said, well I'd better look out for them then. He says
yes you had better look out for them. Well it went on alright for
a couple weeks more or less. And z was called over to building 26A,
that was a little (Ogr shop they had. And I went in that place
and they had four or five chief petty officers in there some of them
were carpenters mates and some of them were machinist mates. But
they were all chiefs and then I went in there, they all put their
hands out and congratulated me that I was going to be made supervisor.

A. E. Forster
May 1, 1916
They thought it was a fine thing and they thought I would be
able to take care of it. And after talking for a while one fellow
said, what do you say if we have a drink on it, the other fellow
said, got anything to drink. 0 yes he says we got something to
drink here up there in the closet. We got a bottle of prune juice
and alky, that is alcohol. He says, let's get that down, we'll
have a drink on it, So it was gotten down. I had a drink, it was
passed on to one of the other fellows, they had a drink first then
it was handed to me and I had a drink.
Now I want to tell you to begin with I didn't drink with this

gang. Remember I was told to look out for them. When I put the
bottle up to my mouth I put my tongue in the stem of the bottle so
none of the liquor came out and went in my mouth. That's I'm sure.
Oh I did taste it, I know what it taste like because your tongue
will cause that. Well the next fellow, he had a drink, then another
had a drink. Talked a little more then decided to have a second
drink. We talked a little more and like I say I'm not a fool. I
happened to look around and noticed that this gang was changing. I
wasn't talking to the same men that I started to talk with. There
were quite a few chiefs on the station and I noticed that they were
changing. I wasn't talking to the same ones and they wasn't having
the came amount of drinks as I was supposed to be having.

A. E, Forster
fMy 1, 1916

So we had another drink and we had a fourth drink and it got
down to about the fifth drink, just about waptied the bottle. I
left enough in it at least there was enough in it for the last
man to have a drink, put it up to my mouth did the same thing I
did the other four times, handed a fellow the bottle smacked my
lips a few times and we stood around talking a little bit longer.
Finally it come tame to leave, time for the whistle to blow
or getting around that way. I happened during the conversation to
look out the window and see a policeman standing outside the window
looking in ever once in a while. I figured he was looking at me
but I wasn't sure. Well anyhow I came out of the place. It was
time for me to leave. I shook hands with all of them and said
goodbye to them. They all wished me well and out I went. Walked
a little ways didn't pay any attention to the policeman. But he
followed me. This policeman's same was Bonner. He was an old
native of Warrington, he followed in back of me about twenty feet
I want in the shop and the East end of the joiner shop, down-
stair s started up the stairs and about the time I got to the top
of the stairs he was starting down at the bottom and I went right
through the building to theat v rend of the building.

A, E. Forster
~y 1, 1916

I got to the west end of the building, that's where my office
was, I just about got in my office then in come the policeman.
When he got in the ire I was sitting down and he looked at me and
I said what can I do for you Bonner. I said, I've never seen you
up here before. What's on your mind. He said, Hr. Forsterlet me
tell you the truth. He said, I was supposed to pick you up for
being drunk. I stood outside of that shop over there for close
to an hour waiting for you to come out drunk. So I could pick
you up. I had orders to do that. X said, I won't ask you who
gave the orders. I said, We'll forget that cause I know It would.
not be right for you to tell me but anyhow he said. You know I'd
be a fool for picking you for being drunk. He says, you're not
drunk. He says, you don't even act as though you have had a drink.
I said to tell you the truth Bonner I haven't had any. I said, X
put that bottle up to my mouth about five times, but I said, that
don't mean I had to drink anything out of the bottle. I said, You
don't have to drink out of a bottle just because you put it up to
your mouth. I sald, you got to know that you can put your tongue
into the hole. I said, that's what I did and I did it five times.
And I said I'm no drunker than you are right now. He said, I know
you're not,

A. E. Fnrrter
rr 1, 1916

PI E~id, I'd be a fool to piuok yrn up e cn .l I aon't
o taeek with you, tnako yzu loack ith me -nm an he left the#. offc.,
An9 on his wry ont he roxt my boors thin wParent rntfleer tnla:? ,1.lf\
he ,sid, what: did that#. follown rnt. He mrld, -rtnt Id tiet police-
man uant? I cid'lt' t tell you thn truth he tn d 'e ho ccme up h~irs
to pick mO uip for taing drmnlrr, 7r rid, that I na.i,. yena he cam
up ha e to pick me up for tring dru:nku T7 cn Pr, why yu'r-uc not
Crmk. I r-lI, I know I'm rnt lnn Tl. Uno saMa horre Ihvo you been?
I cali, I boon vnfr there nuropnerdly Crinkire a lct rf llquor with
Gome of those cf on ovsr there but I r!ir I dlfrn't drink ony. I
took your ovinc to look out for thoa ana I said, I locked out for
Ve rode ho t, and when we rot hone tow old id n c 15 I drn't
thin y o hWr. a drink, 'o r.id. you tdn't even lookt 3koe it. bt
acld, you don't ct like hyvi h'Id ony. Co he sr.aid, f2 let it
to at that but he cir1, ratch1. trro fcllcow, Io ca.0 they'll get
you orcin. '-tSh then. So I vent on, got tP be o somewhere a-
r und roverber 1916 arn officer by the r -me of trc, A. ritchor,
He's c juniorr grrOe Ireutonrnt U S ''svy and heas *rvnl Aviator 23,
1t% thi fol"3ost hV, be!n tho bncr in thfr mTchine chcp jurst about
two mnnthcs

A. E. Foreter
May 1, 1916

Now if he's like all other young Navy Officers and I don't

think he's any different if he had a group of enlisted men or at
least long time chief petty officers working for him. And they told
him anything he'd rather take their word for it then as not. So
these fellows I don't know what they uaid but I believe they said
something about him and his org-.n'iz-tion. Something that I said,
eo he called me on the phone and caid Mr. Forster and I said,
yes sir, this is Et. Mitsecher engteeering officer. I said, yes
sir, he said, if you say anything against anybody in my department
from now on confine yourself to the truth. Well I didn't know
what he was talking about, honestly I didn't know. I know it was
some of these lies that these chiefs put up* So I said, where are
you and he said 1*m in my office if you want to see me come over
and see me. I said, yes I'd like to come over and talk to you
about it. Well I went over there and just as soon as I opened the
door, well let me say ahead of time I had two things on my mind.
I'm not going to mention what they were, but I had two things
on my mind. Anyhow when I opened. the door he was sitting at a
desk with a grin on his bare face and thwee were two chief petty
officers standing on one side of him and two chief petty officers
standing on the other side of him.

A. E. Forster
m~y 1, 1916

Now these fellows didn't even put out a smile. Now that was

the same gang I'd been drinking whiskey with. Supposedly and sus-

posedly got drunk with that afternoon. But they didn't know me,
but they had reported me I know they Enid something. And I asked
this fellow 1itrcher what it was I esaid, What did I say? He said

listen if you have anything further to say to me put it in writing.

What can you do when a fellow tells ycu that if you have anything

to say to me put it in writing. Well I had nothing to put in writ-

ing. But I'll tell you the other thing I would have done, if I

had caught him in there alone. I'd probably wouldn't be working

in Penoacoln today.

I only wr.s fortunate in having four chief petty officers stand-

ing gur dr over him and that's the only reason why I'm here today.

Let me tell you what happened the next day. Now I told you I was

hired as a pattern r-ker and there was another fellow by the name
of Hess, Henry Hess. He ws hired as a pattern maker and we were

both working in the shop, I was working as a pattern maker and
somebody came in the shop and handed me and Hess a piece of paper.

And here's what it says on the piece of paper. From the Machinery

Division A. E. Forster 112316, pattern mhakr four dollars a day.

You are here by discharged for lack of work, your general workman-

ship has been good your general conduct has been good. Signed

M. A. Mitscher Lt. J. G. U. 8. Navy in charge.

A. E. Forster

MYy 1, 1916

Well we were both laid off, we didn't have jobs. If I

-did what I was going to.do the day before I wouldn't have

had a job anyhow. But anyhow, when Mr. Lakes came in I handed

him both of these discharges we received from Mitscher. And he

took them up in the office and the construction officer up there

was Commander n, C. Richardson. How he was a lot senior to this

fellow Mitscher. Rlichlrdson was aviator number 13 and he was a

Commander in the Bureau of Construction and Repair.

Commander Richardson sent down to the shop and he wanted

to know if we would go to work for him as an airplane wood worker

with the same rate of pay. And no both Hess and I agreed that

we would go to work for him ac airplane woodworkers. But I

asked Mr. Lake what this fellow Mitscher would have to say. He

said, he wouldn't have a damn thing to say about it because he

has discharged you end he don't even own you, He said, I-wouldn't

even let you make a pattern for him.

On May 1, 1917, this Lt. Lake came to me and said Forster

we're going to make you a leading man without examination. You

won't have to take an examinstlon for the job. The commanding

officer will just appoint you. I said wait a minute. I said

there's a war on and I said we're going to be hiring a lot of

men. We've got 36 men in the shop at the present time. I, said

who do you intend to make Quaterman and I said, we need with the

group of men we have in the shop today 36 men, we need two lead-

ing men and a Quarterman. And that don't take into account the

A. E. Forster

May 1, 1916

men we are going to hire. We'll be hiring quiet a few.And you

know that he said, I never thought of that well he turned around

and he went upstairs, came back in a few minutes and he seid,

the fellow you want for leading men, he sold, who were they. I

scid~iVan Arsdale was one and Hendrickson was the other and he

said you're Quarterman. I said, well that's fine. I said, now

we can get down and have an organization. And get some work done.

It was getting around to where everybody seemed to be going

into the Military. I was starting to figure I ought to be in there

myself. So I made application for I don't know where it was

chief petty officer or warrant officer. I'm not sure, but however,

I made the application and the application had to go through

channels. Through Lt. Lake, my inmedidatre supervisor and through

the chief of the Burrau of Construction and Repair, that was Olden

E. Richardson. He was the big boss on the station, as far as our

department was concerned. And it had to go to the Commandant. Well

I waited three or four months ard finally on Christmas Eve. It

happened to be December 24, 1917. I was called up to Mr, Richardoon's

office* He said, I don't want you, he said, the Commandant is call-

ing for you, but he happened to call for you through this office,

I said, well I'll go on and see him I guess I'm in the Navy now.

And that was all I said to him. Got to the office, the Commandants

office, there was a sailor outside, he said you Mr. Forster, I jaid

A. E. Forster

May 1, 1916

yes, he said, well wait out here a few minutes the boss will call

you in. Well I waited outside for the boss to call me in. Well

all the sailors were gone and then Mr. Forster was called to come

in so I went in I stood up in front of the Commandant. I'd met

him before, we were friends. We'd had dealings in the shops come

around ever once in a while to see what I was doing. So I knew

him. We talked a few minutes and he said, rise your right hand

And I raised my right hand and I repeated after him the oath of

office and I thought well I'm in the IJTvy, he says come over and

sit r.lonC side me, sit in this chair just a minute. So I went

over ard I sat down and the first thing he says was I guess you're

in the T vy now, don't you, he says. Well You're not he said.

I need you with your experience in the shop, he said, I can get all

the men I want for the Navy, but I can't pick up many men that have

the overall experience that you have so I can use you in the shop.

So I'm going to put you on as Foreman Mechanic now. I'll give

youesome more money just as soon as I can I have to put you on at

a certain rate later on in the summer time if everything goes well.

He says I'll increase it. I thanked him and I don't know whether

I was actually happy because I didn't get into the Navy or whether

I was happy I was staying out 6f the Navy.

A, E. Forster
May 1, 1916

I did go in to Commander Richardonh office and told him

what the eommnTndant had said and he seemed to have known all

about it. I told him I'd do the best I couldto do him a good

job. and justify his recommending me for the job. Now this is

1917, the latter part of 1917 in fact it's Chriatmes Eve. But

I want to let you know that this Lt. Mitscher the came fellow

that fired me got another chance to take a rap at me twenty-two

years lotor and that would be in the reconds and you will see it

later on, but not right now.

A. Forsnter
Story of Lindbergh

.!'vo you ever helgnr of Charlles llnhbergh? Vell If you
haven't I have anrl I'm gp6lin to tell you a little story about
Charloe Lindbemrh. Uow you rany have henrd' it before but you
havont henrd it the v-uy I'm going to tell it.
At the ravnl Air Z;tntion we had a field, a land.iz field
onlled Chviloeir Field nnd it wa.n the landing d field for lighter-
thFn- oir, that io re had bnlloonn nd these small dirnilblo,
thnt flow around horse during lWorld 'r I,l After t'"orld lVr I
they rere cent to T-ake Hurst, .#'ow Jorney tnd that left us with
a field, apparently with no use for nri no runways h-t ever been
built on the field., No concrete runways, it was all dirt, come
oley thht the Ehvy hrd put there to stabilize it somewhat, so they
could use it for the tflloons. '0oll everything ma quiet, I didn't
kntiw w~nt they were going to do with the flmld.
Anl roneo day there wan a folln flew in, I drn't know trhther
hoe t a Liouton.nt or vF rt he i.c, his name tw --- -G- : cL?.ughlin,
T''r he inc r.vlr.t or number 90e ?"Tou if you flow on the field ith
a Curtias, ur.t was l:nrrnl s a Curtin Jenny, on-1 it uns numser 41475.
;'ow I donot 1:nwmT whether thit ims a 'hrine or an Army number P-nr
Very shortly afterr that we ctortoe, to receive box err lands of these
Jennies with quite a f.ew cprLre pcrtf C W didn't khve nuch of a plnce
to put then, we juct rt .rcke;l them in th- bir.: -blloon hanrl'rs-.

t{l// LPSQA Lr/ i/12q o

STCob ftlc Ap SEr/< Itq -2.

A. %. Forstor
'Stnry of Lindbergh

AMI then wOe T r tnld shortly after t.t to otart proparring a
cquiadrtn,. oell we were vwr:ing an prop.rinc a cquacreno and they
worn putting: o-eomwn cosm crnercte ranpn tr, put the plane cn. And].
they lmro uCing a lot of red clny th.t they brought in. First
they brought it in en fljt cv.rs nnrl1 it hudi to be ploked up and
hriule" to nthihro they wanted ti and then at a Rlater dato they
prnlrnbly 'tr'.o r contract with comobody to imvo it brrwu:ht in bic
trucks, And trucl: land afterr truck lod of it ceio in for a lon:,
long tie, They r.ul-d rt in n'.r, sproe it nrn-;und en thn feldl.
Thi wind iwoultd blow c il which ever iry the w-ind bler th-\t w~ms the
=y thick elny itoulO blowr. It blr; from the couth, we got it at
thV bic 3Pyon u, If it blow fror the o-ect then the officers and all
their homec not it. An. it m.c na te-rrible thirn, for a len: tino.
.'wr tihey ctrtod ucing those Cuirtic JonnieE n the fleld and
they had Pa tael aond on it coaething tht wrulrl clilde acent the
brtto mand diOr into the ground. And, it rne utier to cteer the
plinos on the crouin; Any-. every ti n they started to cteoar r. plane
enn the groum' thert irouil. bm r. clou.'' of cl y .-goI into the air n.tn
which over %.y the tinl bleor thnt clay went. A-ell th.-t uont on for
come tiPn, for c long time

A. E. Forater
Story of tinlbergh

X think the Oely evOntunlly, they were able to keep it dampened,
Ikept Ei so it r tcn't too tld or at leset it P-acnt as bad as it

hR b'.en,
Cne ra.y a feIl-T flew in th?.rt ud been bern-ctorming, as they
cllecl it.* e Isrtlecl on the t-ntion Tith his Jo, '.lth is two
front spvrIC of the loter tings broken where he had mado a bad land-
t nt -L o ho hfA liledt down on the wheels, Just where they landed
n. the whtelr thnt's Vfhro the spars broke, well he was able to
patch therm up by putting wond on top nnd bottom of it and trappings
it with wire and then covering up with some fabric, covering the

wint ui with fabric and he mnnageed to get into Chaviliro field with
hic plz.nn.
h.. en ha t~ent in to Chailtiar Field he rent to the Conmmn.nants
office, tcldThf Cr7mniindnt, tnl4 the Comandant of his plight,
The comn.tndnnt c.llfrd my bna Lt o, Tucker, Lt. Tucker called mn and
I weont up in the c 'fftc nnd nmtt this follow Lindborgh, Tie was a
t4ll fellow, I thinT: if you tay 2sit foot six you are till too chort,
.!Ho aes a tetl boy, nic fellow to talk to, And he tnntod come lower
wiini and n mno sruts nn'd gxod knows what else he ddl.n't amnt. eut
it '.: the CocrnnT nt!.n a ; er to my boss to lot him havo what he
rvnter, Ho cA.d he, hnd to oneourage these barn=sctormrnrs, because

it helps to in-t.InIn nvIntion enc. tiret' what tTOia e in the aviation

A, R. Foreter
Story of thlbortmr.h

Tho ir s r yr'un e.mllror on the station I think he W' a
over in one of the) FQ unlirnnc over or the lt.ni~ng field, nt that
tine. I think, hi na tre Fg r cmethin lIke that .,n! he
a.n LinT-rblrc boo~-nCe ro -1 fritenri, Aicht h..v-. been trt..t they kn'e
coach other before Llxndberrh ecmte here, that I dc.n't know, T7ut I
know LinTbvrrDn tre hnre a mrnk ror sI a0n- thick fellow har LIanht0rg'h
rnt.y at his hire clnrin-. the tiam hme pnft in r.en~ncL. fle usn
hero a woIk or moFre, mare cr len I don't lklrf7, inw this iler
onn Linmberch brought the pleteeu over to rur rchp thnit they w.ntc3r
to either ro!-.ir or exchange. 'r'.. we had .on m:th of tir.t mntoeril
arroun. th.rt there wssO no nenQ. reipnil.ng nny of It. *'e r7nr't rce
paTring -ny of It, To ronrr just drrwing sprre pe-rtr. So we mmrrsod
to lToni- thru the ntnctn of ttlr th1ti I hi pnd p5ilCko o'vt a
pcair r -f ?rlngs the-y tere shrp rarn, but 'r nwr. Teoein Sn rtrr.Po
nll cNurinv the ;,r and r3nvr torek their price on an airpleno. So
thono wero the dlrnvs thrt r-.v TLonborrt'erh.
Io tec' thnloe riirs,f prt'mnbly E'ne of the s.tr.ts, lan'-ing
gear prrts, t.l sk-4 ays ancr quite a few ether place. I2 left Ten-
Oanolo. with a goo, airplrne, jurt nc Eg tnds nny of th vi we re
flvim- rrunrA on the nstati.n at tht.t tmSe,


A* T. Forrtr
STory of Linbrchgh

!tnw he left iPennclan and I never heard of him again. N*t
I Irlleve t o t thi ',:.';c nbcut 1920 or 1921, I'm w t sure rnd I
isvor hearo.r him rgr.ln until 1927* I didn't heQilr A',ut hi!m
lcnvirn. for Iz-, AneTl;ces, Cr'f cior.o it wie in the- ;p rnrs, 1but
I didn't zso t the. first I he3ar-d of -Linrbergh was lhen he raE
cettlc rondy to Ie'.vo i,1nro.r, 17n 0 The.nd to ncke tlch trip
to Ib.trc. nncl of conurce fr-m thon on- I kept t-nc:k of hS.,
I rcnaew;Lr whon he flUw..ly, I tiin!, Ie rode r.vr Iro.ln,C ,
flew over Iircland, and than he itent from there to flPrivs And
the field. TE 8. o crotwed he cnuld I-rlrly rke o a ZIe.ndi. ..ut

he smade a l.ndir.;g :nd I don't lmon T whiit khindr of co0thos t;h't he
hnd on when ho left no0.: York:, 'but he htX; to Iove a p.tr of prnts
th.t was prerenttble o ndl the only pair of parnt t f ts hey could
find over there th i.t iwac praco nnbl1, at theM-t piarticul..r tinro,
z..c a pair lof p.fnts thr.t s~fhowl his picture rcnd they were about
htlf way botvecon thl;e Ltp of his- horoc .n.? hbi kr:nves Thcr ust
be crmne atll rZsn ,,over in riEtrf, if hl couldn't find' any larger
troucTer than th;tt,
I c'rmanbcr Wit _nt cnl I rre'..rmbier hina m!o.1in hic trip. A c;o,!.
rrry ye'rs lrtotr 'I ron't s,.y a good many years Ins-er, I'll -jny
lortr he w.E .s rating.; a t rip -round. the United Stctes rnd he got
into Now Orlenns. He flew into sI:r Orleans and I believe he wnI

:: tsr:y of LirbCrg''

tmTkn- fr3r thi oitbhor, flnri' r n'tritfIt orVI the itlr-rl Ceri rap'hic
rltitf coity; or rm-an of tn-er;% pmr.pl. An h :.-..rt j:t? rrle nIs -r.nl
ttey hrid rt parcad in T:Tl erfs.nc c.n- tbiz &a2llcr t -not hiw In htr frlonnc
hi wes w'.tchlnb the rrnde r-n- he hllored to "inA irch alr Lirlborgh
ree,,n5.-rr. the fall.r:r o e ho c-r.ll', cn~. l n mct r.c: 'rveor to him to
c.f, r .vnt r-". rt in the c'vr vith him .-i !.!9 rcr-t rvnC~ thrro irtlh hin.
Arni I bnollvn 1 rh o;t'.,1 ith hi- unt3l L.~lrAh r'r;h brr.:-.ct tih p.l.rne
t-" roncer.c2l., T- rot r, ro rf tiht bl'!:t I tLclive tir S.u, ftEr Linc-
ir.t:h lftt ienrt-c :l, iru third 'ot rirtr. G .-raphic Lncitty obhile.
tior., if It mr rnn nblSc-tilnw t" to r ta a trilr dnrn In tihe Cnrltbrban.
...n".pl.ce C'wn "i thr C2ribi'"rn 1trimlzn.* They !.'-,O- a trip d1n m there
Prnu It w oaef rocneZnr nt th'.t Vti thit ho fCrun 1. bill, th'.t harlctepc
On it and thiy thE. plc*turr : f it 5-i th p-'pr,
7 Linheb'. rclcn't. f.*in t!rt Vryyrvr thr. I dide, tbut h! -ft
th. cr-tt for It al 3ort thy rt thhey r t publicity for thr ft.ct tt~nt
he frunar It.* r:f evrr- s trt -Fv r vb"n.t 1927* that'c rcrnetino F.-ao.
!'ell this )Ic-ction, over th'l yr'r.C A.t r; I L1c qtuitc n 'Lt cf :',n.
licity nn- trn Forster r.Ft hir i,4o irn rie a trip, r- thero-, v-r.t
tor :.eXic City rr'1 flte-r tr-n "'rtcr C.it ovr tro third; hill s;.rn .l
crzunr I" t-rt rInip"CrE'tr' -K trfr y I vrr nr-l very maich ,'ut
it, I rfrn't thin': they tV'lurlht rn.rh ef lit X t thin:t-t ne r.rT.D
quite a fctn trircp nr R I thin': tiht thi.t :ce on" or there tl it nir ht
htrve Itent a dlicrspp.oilntmeint t ther, thst rws D.'n .n Ann,


, ,. ,ntr
Story of T.lri'r'ber.h

ofpors '.rrl6l lTr 7xl sn3tint, LSnAib'Trz.h was invitocl tor CAirmany
by Adolph hitler .nn1 he rent over there Ir or3rt to .ee the fine
xavantion the Gor-rm.nc !i-.cd l an I thini: he ad.vlced the rthor 2'ftlonr
not to fCi.ht GnrrmTny. In other words give the" what they T.ritedi
Put hea mts just one r.nd I thin!: hbe i-.ac risdnTfInrro by the Gaermns,
In other wnrdSn they just know too ruch for him to t'l k anl. rvhn he
came 'Ick to thick country heo r-mcn't thought of .nre nms much nr he
wMa thought of in the older idayn.
OnT beinr; ire are an thin 7T1 J4 ptlno, iTi ing to tll; .lbout'
another fellc, thiit hr.d a rT el,. with a '". J. jruo ie nr fllo

hiti nnrm was m 1.fl.n Tnv1:. I thin: heo r. Leritonnt C'rern-ior
r-n? hP 's calrpl!ne jiE&t Zf number 50, rl;w I dor't know irheth'lor heo
w the firnt cqrcTrion Corr.nder over threo on these N, J*' but at
this particulcur tie e r.n cqnruron Co nrmn er rnr he thoughtl: p
the irden tlrt he ..ntol to put, T rt-t; they c.r.llre. n t rtc:h control,
lto they hknv on the 2!, J's efn thfr :,9.' inrotes& of wrtr.t they
call the yoTe control 'Ith a t;heol thtt'E rtht they hIrve on th-i

11.9c. Hle -nted to put tl.ht rftck control or tio n 9'*, an ,he
rame in the ohop, cam t, t.ho ths, !,':7 curel., t-.r.e: :ith him.
I don't worh: for you he snEar., If you nt that done he lr.id, i.f

you t.nt that done we'll do it, 11ib it n-p to cnn frrj'. "Top :Sde""

A. C, rorstor

rtye :- i v t mNr tr.1 a rn, ?1 no *..r/z I td
hli tih or"n thltn. 7 iMd, olln ynil h1.vn t,. go up cn r?;
t,:AcIor, hr I." thie ;. : orfcer. ciyr we vrr'r: for hii. 1-i.
thin.t Cn- -n n. l r 1., t ,Al r' : e t s men or, I r tr;r : t Lt, Tu~c' or.
I rOo:nt tChitnt Wi 11.0' '':& s'"? ,r 5rv- t. ;r up "::tl rcv him
to a ce"rt-*.n t-v, bat t. v.-r t" .: it. :,t 1'A' the t.'y -ay
cut oM it P hi trnrt n-up -'n I rtr Lt, dlc:Ior,

Lt, ?Th.er-r c yc, I c.on't llkzo tiho 1~cea of It but If y..u incct
1,,mn ite h? r"y', Iote r4.t ,I^. .r tr. thoe ohe .n.r l el o11 d' Jutt ox-

r t-lyt .t youl toll Iuc t' '; rfr. ,'br yr.'2 a re, rV'1 .avlr.tor, you
cthJau lmni:rsr. 1o rly r:: horn, my En rnrly T;:r 1- horo 0 d0n tf-.
T'tro cupr-Evos to, t t Ihz cmTIC If you wa.nt thick jrb Cicno, lie rcs y
T-'11n 0 it. :ny 140ith It ar.n1 rh.nn you*'r ctctio1. thnn t tcke It
intr tih mir, :,'11 it .cMnr't ,cAi f r-' jb t tnkco the yrl re ut
.of the corts n. ~t ?e tw, -tlc '-:a. .- pnt ir pl e o.f ctb-t ynecs.
Th.ro ;eF e the pl.-cton to tie int.- but whn it n t cirrn to the chblnR
tien co-ntrnl c-blevp Thn crntrrl cIblIn woro ierto-l. up Cnry 1o di
jurt ithtt thins Lt.. v511fU ri., t-!n urt to Ir, It we It.. Cn!, nder,
:.C1 .U..r t- -: libe< cs c r. 7-.- ?, h' i w n-te. r pr.t, ti t c C,!
*,y .I.c': t r .In ,l'- f i i-I- in. to- jtb.
m.y b .c': there f. 170 "1r-21n-ch& thl,. Jnb.

A. ;, recTtor
Yitutomrrnt C&rron'Tr "112kis' Tr-rn?:

I o.lrn't put nny Incictlcrn c- it. Infact rt that tirl
t-o eiS^n't hve oTny Incpoctlen cystae. *I'? havo to put cfme-
b_,,1y up thrc to inu: at It ae:#. c:y if it* all right, tits
nil rl:>tt" but ::1y oilul C I br ti.1t ?irn th3 n yc CC bo*h11
rcalste tiei ryreptsiblity. r'- %) t'2"'t( tih IIPI, rrnt Si it,
rivvcw up t'? r-?tr-r, runr It C-rn thn runmny vn' wvent r*tr- t ti
or t-hroo htan!rm.C fTfot- rr1 ho cbtrterN' to lenn ten rqn3 thei left
tj-,r. n.7 C '1 t!c "i:t2c ctart-l t>- go tetzr, tVo left or in
othrr ctc ho 'fV'Q & 11'-.'r 5: tTh n,'tor. lithi 10 llo eft YlrC
with lMe quick: t* t to thor lnft, of cmoarct' trh plc ne iw praocteLd.
Do mncrt't Ivrt, thloy n'rr oO tc ctt e co- cled out t% get hit nn'

rot hi711 In Iti a feu minztoc. ArO ir !.nIr trounl cn'5 he SAid
,lnat 1tl' you eo to the V pic -, t.crL tsa rr.r t'-1nt A r7nv twith It.
to tfi,(, woe Cir?1 4ct erxtly astt y'r:t mn tf no th'ct rc r
"rThrs, rwneerba.
S&- ,'t thVi) pr n ci 'ec In thr shop In a ownco tho phle.n
trMCn't toc 1rely 'rDrO. 1t.f nll. th ringw ccll'pirc e that in
tho ctruts, tphe3 prnrttOn. it I!1r:l3 br'le;n ui~p consw?"t. 'iut we
an ?eot to rot the plr.n's in tho Echp,. Turtll ca.crcwtner t meno
thDt we try an, t$iTr2 nut !trt heppo'r. I c11i yon I'd liko tr,
!rnrt: rt:bt h:trprc.'. I cl1 we don*!t wnrt ttrt thinr to Irppon

A. 2', 'nrcttor
Ileften'r!t C-rminn"or "Alli-n 't^c:

nrp-In ciOd thoreo cr.esthlv :'rvrn irith thirt plassn, to we
carted, we rs*?-o a frnena mout f :? x 4 r4 in . crot tho wsnitr -n
the frmee, irt all the wire crtrrirht^lne' out got these ctlctc,
ticr; control in the r.lVne, cnr! Ih.- tho plntr in the cone if it
MiCOnIt fnr the brLren vinr;o vnn theV broken piecoc the plane 3ma in
sa 1y 2e.!y-tc-riee The 'mn ornlV rPot up thore and try all cof
tho cnntmrlo. 'oll this follow hung count prad eho ot up in the
pirne, anrr he cniyc hbll youvo geot thoca wirec up here srrn'cn.
Theio fellow that 6d11. tthe jb cryct, 'rwit a niinite, you t71 I uc Just
exactly wh.t eto h^ my tro did ythat you mntel fo.nno te didn't rokl:
to see whether it use right or avrrn, it (idln't rshlre nny Jdifrorenco
for as X% oneoarnoe!. 7fTt*c nh.t thic fellow thrt erC ntortcilns
tn thin plno tel! Mhn nir he corr t6 me about it ancd I prntilcnlly
t^.ld him the same thing. I cnI. mlotr hve opn Invoctimrtinn, Iota
have a brnrd nppointel to see who weo actually wrnnr with thick "
s.ro they h)rt a boisr rppolnt& ef i^tl Officers. "rw I remember
thick isa n cvllltrn ohc'p there the rnly hwad in thie shop =0j the Met.
ndi3 the c.zqrron Crm-rran'er rs i t, corstner. ('ell we tcad nn UIsn
ve0at1ciatlrn rn-! the inventicatitn s th thrt the obhep set ths tqwinc
up diametrically nppovito in other word.e we had the winve Crocced,
And it was a fTult of the chap.

A. ES Forster
Lieutenant Commnraer Will.iam i &k

I didn't go along with it and I told my boas I didn't go along
with it so they sent off to Washington, with the report saying
that the shop was responsible for the accident, The reply came
back from the Department saying that the squaWron Commander,
Willilam amsir who was aviator number 58 had over a thousand fly.
ing hours, he was squadron Commanders And he should have looked
at his i lloronC to see whether his allerons were working properly,
beforehe took his airplane in the air* So therefore, he was
totally responsible for the accident. I don't remember who was
Commandant at this particular time, but the commandant wrote a
letter to the department congratulating the department for not
having made that mistake. That the mistake was the responsibility
of the squadron Cocmander.,

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