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OFFICERS


RUSSELL T. PANCOAST
President
First National Bank Building
Miami Beach
JEFFERSON D. POWELL
First Vice President
Professional Building
Jacksonville


1--R. Daniel Hart
2--James A. Stripling
3--William T. Arnett
4--Franklin S. Bunch
5--G. M. Peek
6--W. Kenneth Miller
7--Elliott B. Hadley


O. C. STAGEBERG
Second Vice President
517 West University Avenue
Gainesville
E. F. DE LA HAYE
Secretary-Treasurer
Box 3747
Daytona Beach


DIRECTORS OF DISTRICTS
Pensacola 8--Donald R. Pierce Lakeland
Tallahassee 9--Richard W. Rummell Cocoa
Gainesville 10--Nat G. Walker Ft. Myers
Jacksonville 11--Bruce P. Kitchell West Palm Beach
DeLand 12--Courtney Stewart Ft..Lauderdale
Orlando 13--Robert M. Little Miami Beach
St. Petersburg 14--Robert L. Weed Miami
15--Earl V. Wolfe Key West


Object: "To organize and unite in fellowship the architects
of the State of Florida and to combine their efforts to pro-
mote the artistic, scientific and practical efficiency of the pro-
fession".


JULY 1939


NUMBER 7


THIS MONTH


WE GIVE YOU THE


Rporr-h of


CGhe Legislative( Committee


JUL 6 1939






June 8, 1939


REPORT OF THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE
OF THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION
OF ARCHITECTS


All Association members probably know by this time
that we were not successful in having our proposed
amendments to the Architects' Act passed by the recent
session of the state legislature. The committee feels
that it is important that each member of the Association
be informed as to the actions of the committee, and the
probable reasons why our bill was not made into law.
Before the beginning of the recent session of the leg-
islature the committee submitted the final draft of the
amendments to Senator Wm. C. Hodges on March 23,
1939 and requested a report from him as to whether or
not the amendments were acceptable to him. His reply
on March 25, 1939 was as follows:

"I have your letter of March 23 enclosing copy of the
Architects' bill which seems to me to be all right. I
have no suggested corrections to make in any of the sec-
tions of the bill. If the bill suits you people, it certainly
will suit me. Yours very truly, Wm. C. Hodges."

Senator Hodges apparently arranged to have our bill
referred to the senate committee of which he was a mem-
ber, and this committee approved our bill without
changes. Either before the first reading of the bill or
immediately after the first reading on the floor of the
senate, several hundred telegrams were received in the
house and the senate, opposing passage of the bill. This
opposition came apparently from two sources. By far,
the strongest opposition came from members of the
Florida Lumber and Millwork Association, headed by
Mr. Marcy Mason, of Jacksonville, and the balance of
the opposition apparently from local builders and lum-
ber dealers in the Tallahassee section. Since the oppo-
sition was so well organized, the committee immediately
realized it would have to make two amendments to the
bill.

Perhaps these changes should have been written in the
bill originally, but in the light of later developments it
appears that the organized opposition would have oc-
curred anyway. The committee got in touch promptly
with Mr. Mason and talked over his objections to the
bill andmadea very strongfappeal for his support in view
of the two amendments which we had authorized. The
committee was not successful in obtaining Mr. Mason's
cooperation, although many members of the Florida
Lumber and Millwork Association removed their objec-






tions to the bill when the proposed amendments were
explained to them. However, this change in attitude by
some of their members was passive instead of active,
because the Legislative Committee of their Association
would not change its attitude.

At this point the committee and many members of our
Association worked hard for letters and wires from
builders and others, in the support of the bill as amend-
ed. Every member of the legislature was notified that
the bill was to be amended to exempt all buildings cost-
ing less than $5,000.00, and that we believed this would
remove 90% of the objections to the bill. Eventually,
with the help of MacEwan and Striping and other
Tallahassee architects, we believed that we had twenty
senators willing to vote for our bill including the amend-
ments which we had recommended. We, therefore,
asked Senator Hodges to bring the bill up for second
reading on the senate floor including the two amend-
ments which we had recommended, which were as fol-
lows:
IN SECTION 9-"DECLARATION OF LEGIS-
LATIVE PURPOSE" and under Sub-heading-
"C" Exemptions In Certain Respects", add another
paragraph numbered "5" as follows : 'Any person, other
than an Architect, acting as the actual designer, of a
building or alteration to a building, costing less than five
thousand dollars, provided any such person place his
name and address on the drawings but shall not use the
title 'Architect' or any term derived therefrom, and pro-
vided such design and construction shall conform to all
lawful rules, regulations and requirements of the State
or of the City or Town or any political subdivision of
the State where said building or buildings are to be con-
structed.'
IN SECTION 15-"Architects Seal and Use There-
of" under paragraph "C" and after the first word "that"
insert here "subject to exemptions in section 9C."
The bill was brought up for a second reading on the
floor the day of our semi-annual meeting in Gainesville.
(May 20, 1939). To the amazement of the committee
we learned by telephoning Hodges that afternoon, that
the bill had passed second reading and had been amend-
ed not as we had authorized and suggested, but amended
in such a way as to make the new bill even worse than
the law which now exists. One of the amendments which
Senator Hodges added had been submitted by him to
the F.A.A. Legislative Committee for approval a week
or ten days before, and had been flatly rejected by the
committee. Another amendment had also been added
by Senator Hodges which had never been submitted for
approval to the committee, and which would never have
been accepted had it been presented to them. A third






amendment was made by Senator Rose. For your in-
formation and education we are submitting here the
wording of these amendments:

FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS ADOPTED BY
SENATE SECOND READING-Senator Hodges of
8th District offered amendment to Senate Bill No. 104
change the number of the present section 14 to 15. Sen-
ator Hodges of the 8th District offered the following
amendment to Senate Bill 104. Change the number of
the presentsection 15 to 16. Senator Hodges of the, 8th
District offered the following amendment to Senate Bill
104. AFTER SECTION 12-Add a\ new section to be
known as section 13 as follows-SECTION 13. The
provisions of this act shall not apply to construction,
replacement or repair work where the amount involved
does exceed the sum of five thousand dollars. Senator
Hodges of the 8th District offered the following amend-
ment to Senate Bill 104. Amend the title to said bill by
inserting at the end of the title as now written the fol-
lowing-"Making certain exceptions to the act and also
for the registration by the State Board of Architecture
of certain persons by granting to them under certain
conditions a personal builders certificate".
SENATOR HODGES OF THE 8th DISTRICT
OFFERED THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT TO
SENATE BILL 104. Add a section to be known as
section 14, which will read-Builders who have been us-
ing a practical draftsman for five years last past in their
construction in Florida may continue to use such prac-
tical draftsmen for their own construction work the same
as if he were a registered architect by certifying to the
State Board of Architecture the fact-that he is a com-
petent, practical draftsman, is and has been a resident
of the State of Florida for the past five years and is
qualified to do the usual architectural work registered
architect would do and upon the filing of such a certi-
ficate the State Board of Architecture shall grant the
said practical draftsman a certificate' known as "Per-
sonal Builders Certificate", but which shall limit the
work of such practical draftsman to only the work of the
builder for whom he has been the practical draftsman
for the past five years in Florida and only then on re-
placements, repairs and construction work not to exceed
the value of five thousand dollars,

SENATOR HODGES OF THE 8th DISTRICT
OFFERED THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT TO
SENATE BILL 104. In section 6 (Typewritten Bill)
amend section by adding to section 9 of chapter 5951
acts of 1915 as set out in said section 6 on new sub-section
under paragraph "(C) exemptions in Certain Respects."
As Follows-"5. Any person who confines his architect-
ural services to the business of a corporation of which he






is an officer or employee, provided such corporation does
not engage in the practice of architecture for the gen-
eral public."
SENATOR ROSE OF THE 19th DISTRICT OF-
FERED THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT TO
SENATE BILL 104. In section 6. Entire sub-section
(C) 3. _Beginning at line 28 page 7 "Typewritten Bill"
strike out the wolrds-"Any person acting as the actual
designer of a building or buildings to be constructed for
his own personal use and on his own property, provided
such building or buildings are not intended for public
employment, use, assembly or other occupancy by the
public and provided further that any such person place
his name and address on the drawings but shall not use
the title "Architect" or any term derived therefrom, and
provided such design and construction shall conform to
all lawful rules, regulations and requirements of the
state or of the city or town or any political sub-division
of the State where said building or buildings are to be
constructed. "And insert in lieu thereof the following :
"3. Any person acting as the actual designer of a build-
ing to be constructed on his own property provided said
building is not intended as place of public employment,
amusement, or assembly. Or into which the public is to
be invited for use, occupancy or entertainment.
We asked Senator Hodges to submit to the committee
in writing the amendments which he had added to the
bill, and after receiving the actual wording of the amend-
ments, and having determined that we could not ask for
a separate vote on the amendments, we requested Senator
Hodges to withdraw the bill-which he did.
While the committee made some mistakes in its tactics
the committee feels that the bill would have been passed
by the senate if it had been presented as we requested
Senator Hodges to present it. The committee is not
prepared to say whether it would have passed theY house,
although we were prepared to handle the fight in the
house promptly, had the bill passed the senate. After
the bill had been withdrawn from the senate by Senator
Hodges we decided that we had; nothing to lose in mak-
ing an attempt to introduce the bill before the house in
the form which we had authorized. Representative
Crary of Martin County took a great interest in our bill
and consented to make an attempt to have our bill pre-
sented in the house. As rushed as he was during the
final week of the session he did much to get the bill re-
ferred to the Judiciary Committee of the house, of which
he was a member. He was not successful in getting the
bill any further, but the committee feels grateful to him
for his last minute efforts.

We do not expect to give up the fight, and the commit-
tee will formulate a course of action assuring a better
managed campaign in the next session of the legislature,






as this committee has learned much of legislative proced-
ure and workings, also the opposition, alignment, which
we are confident we will eliminate when we again pre-
sent our act at the next legislative session in 1941 at
Tallahassee.
The above report is respectfully submitted by the
legislative committee.
FREDERICK G. SEELMANN,
Chairman


Sincerely,.
The Florida Association of Architects.
E. F. DE LA HAYE, See'y-Treas.,


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