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Title: Interview with Eula Zetrouer McInnis
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Marston, Ruth C.
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MATHESON HISTORICAL CENTER

ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM


Interviewee:

Interviewer:

Transcriber:


Eula Zetrouer McInnis

Mary Ann Cofrin

Ruth C. Marston


January 21, 1999









Interview with Eula Zetrouer McInnis 1
January 21, 1999


C: My name is Mary Ann Cofrin. I am interviewing Eula Zetrouer Mclnnis for the
Matheson Historical Center on January 21, 1999, at her home on 5022 N.W. 34th
Street in Gainesville, Florida. Would you please give me your full name and
birthdate for the tape, please.

M: Eula Zetrouer Mclnnis. My birthdate is September 29, 1903.

C: And where were you born?

M: Near Micanopy, Florida.

C: What were your parents' names?

M: Daniel Remshart Zetrouer and Zola Leitner Zetrouer.

C: Were they both from this area?

M: Yes. My father was in the area close to Wacahoota and my mother was in the area
called

C: And your grandfather on your father's side was?

M: James Carlisle Zetrouer.

C: And he lived in this area, too?

M: Yes, he lived in the area close to Wachahoota.

C: And he was born in this area?

M: No, he was born in Savannah, Georgia.

C: So his father, who was John Robert Zetrouer, your great-grandfather, was a Georgia
native?

M: Yes.

C: Did he and his family move to Florida later, or just your grandfather? Your
great-grandfather was the one who was written up in this thing that came from
Rotterdam? John Robert Zetrouer came from Eppingham County, Georgia, but was
originally from Rotterdam -- correct? Is he the one who came over with the
Salzburgers?









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M: Yes, but they didn't come from Rotterdam. They came from
C: Well, this may be incorrect, but this paper says he was the grandson of Paula Zetrouer,
and he spells it Zieterauer. They say he left Rotterdam with the second transport of
Salzburgers. That doesn't mean they lived in Rotterdam. I guess that's what you're
saying.

M: Yes. It's all in that "Salzburger and Allied Families," but I lent that book to somebody
and I don't know where it is.

C: According to this, they arrived in Savannah, Georgia, on December 28, 1734, and settled
at Ebenezer, Georgia, which is Eppingham Camp. Later they came to Rochelle, Florida.
Is that right?

M: Much later.

C: And he was the one who had four sons, I see, and then he had several brothers that came,
too. He was married to Eliza Remshart in Savannah. She was bor in Savannah, it says
here. Does that sound right? It says she was the daughter of Daniel and Elizabeth
Remshart.

M: I don't think she was born in Savannah but near there.

C: The first ones who were in Florida -- tell me a little bit about them. They were farmers?

M: Yes, my grandfather was a farmer.

C: Mostly cattle farming?

M: They all raised cattle.

C: You say they were all down in the Micanopy area or the Wacahoota area? Where is
Wacahoota? Is it down near Micanopy?

M: Yes, it's west of Micanopy toward Archer.

C: We don't need to pinpoint where it is. Now, that was your grandfather and so your
father went into the business with your grandfather, or was it after he died?

M: No, my grandfather had two sons and when they got married, he gave each one of them
sixty acres of land and a certain number of cows. So they started out farming.









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C: So they just stepped right into it. You grew up down there? Oh no, that was your
grandfather, James Carlisle, and your father inherited farmland, too. He was the one
who inherited that. Did you grow up on that farm? What was life like on the farm as a
young girl? Did you have a big family?

M: I had three brothers, but one died of diphtheria, which they can treat now, but in those
days it was hard. He died before I was born, so I don't really know much about him. I
had two living brothers, Albert and Elbert. Papa always joked and said he'd like to have
had twin sons but couldn't so he gave them twin names.

C: What was life like down on the farm?

M: I had a good time.

C: Are you close to your brothers? Were you close in age to them?

M: Albert was bom in 1900 and Lucius was born in between there somewhere -- he was the
one who died -- and I was bom in 1903, and Elbert was born later. I was a good sized
little kid when Elbert was born, because people used to come in and tease me and say
they were going to take our baby, and Albert and I just were scared to death that
somebody was going to pick up that baby and leave with him.

C: So you had a good relationship with your brothers.

M: Very good.

C: Did you ride horses or do anything like that?

M: I never was very much of a rider. I could ride. In those days if you rode a horse, you
used a side saddle and you wore a skirt. So I never cared much about riding horses.

C: Did the boys have farm chores and you, too, I imagine, when you were a teenager
maybe?

M: I gathered the eggs and fed the chickens and things like that. I never did any farm work
as far as that was concerned.

C: No, that was not a girl's place, I suppose.

M: No, that was not something you did as a girl.


C: Did you help your momma some?









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M: Well, momma was particular to be sure that I learned to keep house right. Momma was
a good housekeeper herself, and she trained me to be. If I didn't sweep it right, she
made me do it over.

C: Did she teach you how to cook?

M: I don't know whether she taught me or whether I just learned. I can't remember the time
when I couldn't cook.

C: Well, you probably had household help in those days, too, didn't you? Somebody to
help in the kitchen?

M: We nearly always had somebody to help momma.

C: Where did you go to school?

M: Micanopy. I went there until I was in the eleventh grade. That was as far as Micanopy
went in those days, so then I came up here and boarded up here.

C: Where did you board?

M: Do you know where the church is, the Salvation Army church, on University Avenue?

C: Is it on East University?

M: Yes. There was just one school in Gainesville.

C: Right, and that's where Kirby-Smith is, correct?

M: The building that I went to class in is still standing.

C: As the Kirby-Smith school. That was from Grade 1 through 12.

M: Well, there was Maggie TeBeau's.

C: I mean the public school. So you lived right in that same vicinity?

M: I boarded with a Mrs. Downing. I don't know whether you know her or not, but she was
connected some way or another with an insurance (or church) man here. Anyway, she
was a widow and she used to say if she needed anything she would just call him up and









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they had a certain message that she said and he would come to see about if she needed
him. But she said she never had needed him.

C: Now, were there other students boarding there or were you the only one?

M: I was the only student. There were teachers there. Mary Gannon. She was Miss
Pound's sister. I can't remember who she married now; I did know. Avis Walker, and
Florry Register. They were the only teachers.

C: So you had built-in homework help if you needed it!

M: Yes. My folks always told me, "Don't bother other people. Don't bother strangers.
Go to your family if you need them, but don't bother any strangers."

C: Did you go home on weekends?

M: Sometimes I did and sometimes I didn't. It wasn't easy. The only road to Micanopy
was the one down by Rocky Point.

C: I think so. 34th Street ran into Rocky Point Road, but it wasn't 34th Street, of course,
then.
M: When we first moved out here ...

C: Now you're talking about this house?

M: Yes. When we first moved out here, some of the houses were still here, that's true, but it
was different. The neighborhood was different. Noah's had built it for themselves.
They had planned to live here. She said there wasn't but one thing wrong with this
house, and I would find out soon enough what it was. She wasn't going to tell me. I
never did find out what it was.

C: Anyway, so when you lived there on East University Avenue, if you went home, you
went on the train down to Micanopy.

M: Yes, it stopped at Micanopy.

C: Otherwise, they probably didn't have a car, did they?

M: We had one of the earliest Fords in the area.

C: But it was still better to go home on the train and have them meet you and then come
back to school Sunday night, I guess, so you would be ready for Monday.









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M: Well, I usually came back on Monday morning. I don't remember how, but it was a
train, I remember that..

C: Who were your high school teachers?

M: Mr. was principal and Mrs. Howell taught science and Mrs.
Cawthen. I had Miss Coffey. Mrs. Cawthen was some kind of a state education officer,
and I had her for math. For history I had -- can't think of her name, but I loved her.
Her husband was a railroad man, and he was transferred down to St. Petersburg, I
believe, and she used to go down there on Friday afternoons, and I taught her class.

C: Even when you were in high school, you mean?

M: Yes, when I was in high school.

C: When you were in high school, you would substitute as a teacher? That means you were
a very good student.

M: Well, the kids thought they could do what they wanted to, but they said I was as hard as
Mrs. Cawthen was!

C: Good for you! You were a born teacher it sounds like. Let's digress a minute. I forgot
to ask you very much about this. Did you see your grandparents when you were
growing up? Were they alive at the time?

M: My grandmother died rather early in my life, but I remember when she died.

C: What was her name? That was James Carlisle's wife.

M: What was her name?

C: Anyway, you did see them when you were growing up..

M: Grandpa used to come real often after she died and spend a night with us. My
grandmother, momma's mother, was a widow, and she used to come after we had a
good-sized house. She lived with one of her sons and she used to come and spend the
night with us, and she was lots of fun.

C: It is very nice to have grandparents growing up, I think.


M: Real nice.









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C: So you knew some on both sides of the family, and that was nice. Okay, do you
remember very much about your first day in school when you were little and going to
school in Micanopy, or who your friends were? Were they mostly farm kids?

M: No, the Herlong girls were my best friends, and Gertrude Prince, and she married a man
here who was some kind of public officer, I believe. She was a beautiful girl. There
weren't too many of us, really.

C: When you were in Gainesville at the high school, did you have a lot of local Gainesville
friends?

M: No, you see I wasn't here long enough to make too many friends. Wilma Watson's
father was in the agriculture department at the University. In those days it wasn't big
like it is now Effie Doran, whose father ran a bicycle shop here, and Christine
Thompson She's been dead a long time. Travis Lofton married her
sister. Those were the three girls I went with most.

C: Did many of the Micanopy girls come to Gainesville to go to school, like the Herlongs,
or did they just quit at the end of their 11h grade?

M: They got married. May Herlong went on to Tallahassee, and she taught school for a
long time.

C: So she went to college at Tallahassee?

M: She went to college, and she was there when I was there some of the time. I remember
we visited back and forth.

C: Did you have a social life, like dances and things like that, when you were in high
school?

M: No.

C: You didn't have dancing. It came up later.

M: It was not considered exactly the proper thing to do in those days. It depended on your
family and how they felt about it.

C: Was your family Methodist or Presbyterian?


M: Methodist.









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C: And I don't believe they did believe in dancing because it seems to me my grandmother,
who was a Methodist, approved of it. My mother never danced, and I suppose that's
exactly why.

M: Your mother was Maureen, wasn't she?

C: No, Gladys. Maureen was mother's younger sister. Maureen was born in 1899, I think
the last day of the year, but my mother was born in 1896, so she was older than Maureen.
You probably knew Maureen a little bit. She would be older than you, but you would
have known her.

M: I knew who she was.

C: Well, three years is a good difference, isn't it?

M: Well, it depends.. You see, I was only up here one year. I didn't make too many
friends.

C: What were your best subjects? What did you like to study the best?

M: History. Social studies.

C: After you graduated from high school, what happened?

M: I went to Tallahassee to the state college for women.

C: Did you stay there four years?

M: No. I stayed one year and got married.

C: How did you meet Sam McInnis?

M: Here at the University. He was a teacher.

C: At the University?

M: He was a high school principal for a number of years. When we first got married, he
was high school principal at in County.

C: Now you say you met him at the University. He was going to school?









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M: He was going to summer school, and I was going to summer school.

C: I see, so did you get a degree from the University of Florida?

M: I got a Master's Degree from the University of Florida, and I was almost ready for a
Ph.D., but Poppa and Momma, especially Poppa, was not well, and I wanted to be with
them as much as I could and I gave up the idea of a doctorate degree.

C: Now, wait a minute. You went one year to Tallahassee and you started going to summer
school here, and you went one summer here and met your husband? You got a teacher's
certificate, I guess, after your one year of college and one summer of summer school.

M: I got a teacher's certificate.

C: And then you ended up teaching in Micanopy, but at the same time you went to summer
school and got your B.A. in education after several summers.

M: Yes.

C: But you were married by then? You got married that first summer?

M: No. I got married in 1924.

C: So you had finished school by then, correct?

M: I'm getting my dates mixed up here.

C: Well, you went one year to Tallahassee.

M: I went one year to Tallahassee, and the rest of my college work was done in summer
school.

C: But you got married in 1924, so had you finished your education by then?

M: No.

C: Had you finished your B.A.?

M: No.

C: You had just gotten some of your schooling. Then you were teaching in Micanopy, and
you and your husband were married. Where did you live? Did you live in Micanopy?









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M: After we were married, we lived in Wachula.

C: So that's when you gave up your teaching in Micanopy and lived in Wachula with him.
I see. And how long did you stay in Wachula?

M: He was there a long time, but I was there several years.

C: Were your children born there?

M: No, they were born here. He came back and Dr. Simpson wanted him. Do you know
Dr. Simpson?

C: I knew his daughter, Ruth. She was in my class in high school. I think that's probably
the same family.

M: Well, Dr. Simpson got Sam to teach in the Math Department.

C: Had he finished school by then? He was Principal down there, you said, but he had
finished school.

M: He had finished his Bachelor's degree but he hadn't finished his Master's. He got his
Master's the year that Neal was a baby.

C: So when he came back here to teach, he had finished his Master's Degree, you think?

M: Yes. I'll never forget that because I didn't understand what I was reading in the first
place. He had to write a thesis in those days -- you had to -- and I didn't understand
what I was reading.

C: You mean his thesis?

M: Yes. I got kind of tired reading it.

C: What was it on?

M: You can search me!

C: Now, Dr. Simpson's field was Mathematics. So your husband was in the Mathematics
Department, and your first daughter, Miriam, was born what year?

M: I have to stop and think.









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C: I know she's younger than I am, so she was probably born in the late 20's?

M: No, she was born in 1931, I think.

C: So you waited a while to have your family. And she was your first child, and you had
finished teaching in Micanopy, so where did you teach then?

M: I went to Florida State, and from there I went to Wachula and I taught down there. Then
I came back up here and taught at Gainesville High School.

C: At that time was it still over on the east side of town at the old Kirby-Smith?

M: No, it was on University Avenue when I taught there.

C: That's when they separated and made the new school. That was the new school then,
and that school, did it go one through twelve for a while, or was it always just seven
through twelve? I've never been quite sure about that.

M: We had an elementary school division there. We had a small part of that building that
went from one through six.

C: And the high school was seven through twelve?

M: The high school was in the same building.

C: What did you teach? What grade?

M: Sixth grade.

C: That was a fairly new school when you started teaching there? It was in the late 20's, I
guess, because it was before Miriam was born, you say.

M: I went back to teaching after Miriam was born.

C: You took off for a year or so?

M: I've forgotten how long, but I took time off.

C: Then you went back to teaching. Were you still teaching at Gainesville Elementary
School in the sixth grade after Miriam was born?









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M: Yes.

C: Who were some of the teachers with you at Gainesville in the Elementary School?

M: In the High School there was Shannon, who was the Junior High School Principal.
Blacklock was the Junior High School Principal, too.

C: And who was Principal of the Grade School?

M: Belle McKinstry.

C: And the High School Principal, was that Buccholz? Had he come over there then?

M: Yes.

C: He was Principal here a long time.

M: A long time.

C: Yes, I knew that. I think he was still Principal when I was coming along. So you liked
teaching there and you taught there a good long time?

M: I didn't teach in the High School.

C: I mean the Grade School. The sixth grade.

M: I think I was there two years before Finley was opened.

C: Finley was opened about 1939, do you think?

M: Well, they had their 50 anniversary not too long ago.

C: Well, we can look that up and put that in here. You went to J.J. Finley School when it
opened?

M: Yes, I was the first sixth grade teacher. When they built Finley out there, a lot of people
just thought it was awful.

C: Why?

M: It was in the woods. Big pine trees around us. Dr. Gordon Tison and his family lived
in a brick house down the street from there.









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C: Yes, I remember that house. It's still standing, catty-corner from the school. So you
had a good teaching career there for a long time.

M: I think I taught thirty-nine years there. A long time there.

C: You had a lot of good friends at that school who taught with you, didn't you?

M: We stayed a small school for years. In order to fill the school up, we had to bus in
children. In those days you had to have bus duty. If one got left, you had to take him
home.

C: That was a good idea. You didn't want to leave them stranded. Well, really, there
weren't very houses around there at that time, were there?

M: Do you know where the Lunsford's used to live?

C: Not really. That name's familiar, to.

M: Well, you know where Trixie Hill -- I think she married D -- lived?

C: No. Anyway, they were all in that neighborhood?

M: Yes. The insurance man lived across the street.

C: You say that children were bussed in. Where did they come from? Different parts of
Gainesville, or were some of them from out of town, too?

M: Some of them came from way out of town.

C: Did some of them come from Micanopy?

M: I haven't any idea. I think I probably would have known back then, but not now.

C: Were the classes pretty small, though?
M: No. We had big classes. One year I had 45 children on my roll.

C: Goodness. Did you just have one sixth grade? I guess you just had one grade of each
class in the beginning, and as the school grew, of course, you got more teachers.

M: Yes.









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C: Did you stay sixth grade all the time?

M: Yes.

C: And you liked that very much?

M: Well, I loved to teach.

C: Could you see a lot of changes over the years from when you first started teaching, when
you were teaching in Micanopy and then at Gainesville High School and then at Finley.
Did you see a lot of changes?

M: Of course, there was a big difference between Junior High School and Grade School, a
big difference.

C: Oh sure.

M: But pretty much, teaching is teaching.

C: Teaching methods for sixth grade didn't change all that much over the years. Well, you
were a young girl, I guess, during the Depression, were you not? Did that affect your
family very much?

M: I can't remember.

C: And World War II? We had rationing and that kind of thing, but did that affect your
family too much? You were certainly married by then.

M: Well, living on a farm you have a lot of things that people in town just don't have.

C: Right. Yes, in World War I and then later the Depression, too, but during World War II,
you would have been married by then. Your husband did not have to serve in the
service, did he?
M: No, but he served in the first World War.
C: That was certainly before you were married or even before knew him, I guess.

M: Yes.

C: So after you had Miriam, you had another daughter, right?


M: There was four years difference between Miriam and Margie.









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C: Miriam lives here in Gainesville or outside of Gainesville?

M: She lives right across the road from where I was born.

C: So that's your property that she's on actually?

M: Yes.

C: And your other daughter, Margie, where does she live?

M: Margie lives in two places. Her husband is a college graduate, but he makes his living
doing carpenter work. He especially likes to do historic restoration, but he can't always
get historic restoration jobs. His name is Howard Edwards Thomas, Jr. When they
named him Junior, they say his mother said, "We'll call him Tom." So we all kid him
that he's Tom Thomas. Tom's a peach.

C: Well, tell me a little bit more about -- you've had a lot of interesting relatives in this
Zetrouer family. There have certainly been a lot of them in Gainesville and around this
area. Some of them lived over at Windsor. Is that part of your family or is that another
branch?

M: Well, I think with a name like Zetrouer they are likely to be relatives.

C: You mentioned earlier Jeanette Chitty. She's your first cousin?

M: She's my brother's daughter. My oldest brother's daughter. She's my niece.

C: She was a Zetrouer, and she married a Chitty and she went into the cattle business.
Unusual for a woman, but she has been very successful, hasn't she?

M: I don't know. Albert adored that girl, and so Louise would...

C: Who is Louise?

M: Albert's wife. Jeanette's mother. She was a Jeanette always
liked to go with her daddy and would ride a horse astraddle.

C: Well, by the time she came along, it was okay to ride astraddle. So when did you retire
from teaching?

M: In 1965, I think. I've been retired a long time. They used to practically make you retire
when you were 65.









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C: Well, you would have been 65 in 1968, so I guess that's about right for you to retire, isn't
it? What have you done with yourself since you retired? Enjoying life and your
family?

M: Pretty much that.

C: Were your parents still living when you retired?

M: Oh yes.

C: And your husband lived for how long? How long since you lost your husband?

M: I can't remember the date, but I had retired before he died.

C: Did he retire, also?

M: Oh yes.

C: So you both had some free time there.

M: He went to Stetson.

C: Oh he did? When did he do that?

M: After he retired from the University. They made him retire at the University because of
his age. That same thing was true in the public schools, too. You were supposed to
retire at a certain age. It's been so long since these things happened.

C: He went over to Stetson?

M: He went to Stetson and taught Mathematics down there.

C: Now how did that work out? Did you go with him, or did he just commute?
M: He commuted. He taught down there during the week and then drove up here weekends.


C: Where did you live at that time? Had you bought this house?

M: We lived over -- you know where the Administration Building is for the University --
before the Administration Building was there, Sam used to leave our house and walk









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about a block down the street and go to Peabody Hall, and his office was in Peabody
Hall.

C: So you lived in that area for a long time?

M: We lived in that area until we bought this house. I've forgotten when. It's been so
long.

C: But your girls went to school in Gainesville?

M: Miriam was a member of the first class that went straight through from Kindergarten to
graduate from P.K. Yonge.

C: Well, that was within walking distance for her then, wasn't it.

M: She just had to cross a vacant lot. Margie also graduated from P.K. Yonge and she did
the same thing.

C: Now you chose P.K. Yonge just because it was convenient more than because it was
going to be better?

M: Well, everybody thought it was going to be a top-notch school, and it has always been a
pretty good school.

C: I think so, too.

M: They do things differently from what they do in public schools sometimes, but that's the
purpose of a demonstration school.

C: Right. Now your girls both went off to college?

M: No. Miriam went off to college and came back home. She went to the University.

C: She went to FSCW first?

M: Yes.

C: I guess it was FSU by the time she went.

M: No, it was still Florida State College for Women.

C: But anyway, she came back and finished in Gainesville at the University. And Margie?









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January 21, 1999



M: Margie never did go anywhere but the University.

C: It was probably co-ed by then? If it was co-ed when Miriam went there, that means
FSCW was then FSU, I believe. They both became co-ed the same time. I think that
was no longer FSCW. Anyway, so what did you do in retirement? You say you've
done a lot of different things. I haven't heard about them.

M: Nothing very important.

C: Did you travel a lot with Sam?

M: We traveled a lot before the children came. We didn't travel much after they came.

C: I mean after you retired. You didn't travel much after you retired?

M: No. For one thing, Sam got a colon cancer and he was sick a long time.

C: So you took care of him a lot?

M: It's a painful illness and it's a devastating disease.

C: Yes it is. So you've been widowed a long time.

M: Yes. A long time.

C: Have you done any special hobbies and things since you've been a widow?

M: No. I just live day by day.

C: Well, I think I've covered everything I can think of, unless you have something that you
can add, to tell me about Gainesville or your family that I haven't remembered to ask
you. Can you think of anything?

M: We were pretty ordinary people.

C: Well, I've enjoyed talking with you. We'll have this transcribed and I'll edit it and if
you think of anything you want to add to it, we'll add to it.

M: I would like to have a copy of the final.









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January 21, 1999


C: You will definitely have a copy. We will give you one. In fact, we'll give you as many
copies as you want. If you want a couple of them, we'll get them to you.

M: Well, Margie called from D.C. She calls every week. I used to call her one week and
she'd call me the next, but her husband works for a company called Booze-Allen. He's
been with them ever since he graduated from the University. He's a nice fellow. They
lived right across the street from us when they were growing up.

C: She's interested in seeing one of these?

M: She wants a copy.

C: I'll tell you what we might do is let Miriam and your daughter Margie read them and if
they see something that they think we ought to change or correct, we can do that before
we make a final copy. Would that be a good idea?

M: A good idea, especially with Miriam. It isn't all that far to D.C. but on the other hand,
it's hard to get things transferred back and forth.

C: I could mail her a copy if you think she'd like to see it before it's edited. If not, we'll
just give her a final copy. Even after it's a final, it's no big deal to change anything.
Anyway, we'll certainly get one to you, and we hope you will enjoy it. I've certainly
enjoyed talking to you. I've had a good time.

M: I've enjoyed visiting with you. I've liked it a lot.


C: Thank you so much.




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