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Marjon Stonemnan Douglas and larijoric 1 larris Carr
Segment: Continuing battle to protect Florida's Environment
Source: Interview with Jack Kaufman: journalist, member of the Florida Defenders of the Environment
and UF Zoology professor. Kaufman joined the Florida Defenders of the Environment in 1970 with
Length of Segment: 00:01:37
Transcript and audio recording are copyright 1983-2009 Florida International University.
Interviewer: "Is it going to continue to change? Is there a new role for it? Do you think that people...
Jack: "You're better asking Margie that."
Interviewer: "Well, but you're, you've been involved and seen a change over the years and you found
that government is responding in a different way. There are some people who'd say, 'The battle is won
Jack: "In terms of stopping the Cross Florida Barge Canal we've accomplished a lot. I don't think the
canal will be built. We haven't won the battle yet, because the canal has not been deauthorized and the
canal structures are still there. At any time the appropriations could re-start construction on the canal,
so we haven't even won that battle yet, after fifteen years, we're still fighting the Cross Florida Barge
Canal. About some projects, we've had some success on. Some we've had no success on, we've lost. The
fact that the government is more environmentally concerned and aware, now, doesn't mean that we
can afford to ease up, because the problems get worse all the time. I think, overall, we're losing ground.
I think environmentalists are constantly losing ground simply because of the oppressive environmental
pressure and there's been the pressure to accommodate the increasing population pressure and the
press to build more cities and more roads and whatever to accommodate the increasing population. So,
overall, I think we're losing ground. So, it's a delaying action. And, if the environmentalists would ever
ease up, the people that want to destroy the environment for their short term profit, would go rushing
ahead and we would be in terrible shape.