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Segment: Marjories give final thoughts about the importance of tenaciousness as well as patience to
help save Florida's environment
Source: Interview with Marjory Stoneman Douglas and Marjorie Harris Carr. Videotaped in Islamorada,
Length of Segment: 00:06:07
Transcript and audio recording are copyright 1983-2009 Florida International University.
Interviewer: "I have one final question for you and then we'll let you return to the conference. What can
an average person, average member of the public, do about problems like these, in the future, the ones
that we've been discussing, these and the other ones we've been discussing?"
MD: "Well, they can understand...try to understand them first. Try to get them in terms they can express
to other people and talk about it. About the best they can do possibly, talk and then bring political
action to bear."
M Carr: "Right. Join some conservation group or several and keep in touch with their elected officials.
Find out how to easily do it. The phone. Call a county commission office. Call their local congressman's
office. Just no farther away than their telephone. To the centers of power!
MSD: (to M Carr): Well, you've proved that. You proved the immense power of just keeping up the
talk, keeping up the pressure on politicians. And the relations, Cross Florida Barge canal. That
magnificent job you did with that shows that you... that's exactly how you worked. And, that's how it
can be done"
M Carr: "How about you? Your tenaciousness with the Everglades."
MSD: "Well, we haven't solved our problem yet, (chuckle), we're trying. It might, in one sense, it might
be a little more complicated, but I don't know. How many years have you been at that thing? Twenty?
M Carr: "About twenty."
MSD: "I think so. It took twenty years to get the Everglades National Park established. It took twenty
years to get rid of the Cross State Barge Canal. I don't know how many years it'll get before we get the
Everglades straightened out... forty maybe, (chuckle). Oh well"
Interviewer: "It certainly is clear that you're both in it for the long haul."
M Carr: "Right."
MSD: "Why not? You see, as Americans, everybody is so impatient. It's got to be done by tomorrow
morning at nine o'clock. And that's where we make so many of our mistakes. It is better to be able to
stay with it over a period of time because then you sift the true from the false. You realize what the
issues are. This quick easy method of doing things never works well. Never."