A J ale of iwo Women
Marion Stonemnan Douglas and Mlaijoric 1 larris Carr
Segment: Improvements with the Water Management District
Source: Interview with Marjory Stoneman Douglas: a tale of two women / produced by Florida
International University Learning Resources for FIU/FAU Joint Center. Videotaped at the Douglas House
in Coconut Grove, June 15, 1983.
Length of Segment: 00:03:49
Transcript and audio recording are copyright 1983-2009 Florida International University.
Is this a matter, once again, of not enforcing the laws that are on the books, or is this another matter?
Well, some of them. The pollution is a matter of not enforcing the laws on the books, but the matter of
changing or improving the whole system, the laws are not on the books about that. There again, John
Jones of the Wildlife Federation and I for the Friends of the Everglades, and Arthur Marshall, who knows
more about it than anybody, who's been our great environmental leader, went to the Legislature and
got them to put a resolution to Congress for the committee that controls the Corps, to tell the Corps to
study the restoration of the Kissimmee River from the canal. And the Congress appropriated $60,000
for them to do it. Well, they've been studying it ever since. Last Spring, Mrs. Tschinkel, for the
Governor, called in the corps said, "Now what, let us have the reports you've been studying?" They
didn't have any.
...When this plane came over...
We were talking about the Corps and the Water Management District and not understanding the
Yes. But I don't know exactly where I was.
You said they seemed to be catching on...
Oh yes! Oh yes! And I think I said the Water Management District is really doing better because they
had cooperated with the Everglades National Park, and both of them together had decided on seven
points that needed to be improved in the true Everglades, that is south of Lake Okeechobee. To
regulate properly the water going into the Park and the rest of it. Well, the Corps, they had a hearing
with the Corps, discussing the seven points, and the Corps said they could only go along with the first
point. And Colonel Devereaux said the rest of it he couldn't go along with at all. That's very difficult,
because these are things that the Water Management District and the Everglades Park people know,
and I don't have that confidence in the Corps as against those two other people. I think they know
much more what they're talking about. So the great problem is we had Alice Wainwright with the
Audubon Society called a meeting several weeks ago down at Audubon House at which Jean Bellamy,
who is on the Water Management District, spoke, and they asked us all to write to the senatorial
committee that controlled the Corps. So everybody's been writing letters to that committee saying, "tell
the Corps they've got to agree with those other points," but so far, nothing has happened because of it.
Maybe they need everybody to write more letters to that Senate committee to get the Corps to do it.
You see, the Corps is pretty well run by the War department, or whatever it's called now, the
Department of Defense something, and they don't have to listen, and it makes it very difficult indeed.
They're outrageous, I think. I've been happy to tell that to their faces several times.